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Panzerkampfwagen III Ausf. E & Ausf. F - Questions, Information, Gameplay

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Heliosiah 4,718

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A classed 15 ton vehicle with the purpose of being the main battle tank with armour piercing weapons. From the Ausf E towards the end of its variant line at the Ausf N, it remained largely unchanged, which included the adaption of the torsion bar suspension. One of its key features was the 3 man turret, greatly increasing crew functionality. 

 

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  • CHASSIS: 60401 - 60496

 

Panzerkampfwagen III Ausf. E

 

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Manufacturer: Daimler Benz, Henschel, MAN. 

 

Crew: 5

Weight: 19.5 Tons

Length: 5.38m

Width: 2.91m

Height: 2.44m

Engine: Maybach HL120TR

Gearbox: 10 Forward, 4 reverse

Speed: 40km/h

Range: 165km

Radio: FuG5

 

Armament: one 3.7cm KwK L/46.5 two 7.92mm MG34 

Traverse: 360º by hand main gun. 15º left 20º right MG

Elevation: -10º +20º main gun.  -10º, +10º MG

Sight: TZF5a - KgZF2

Ammunition: 131 Pzgr and Spgr - 4,500 Patr SmK

 

Armour: 

 

Turret (mm/angle)

  • Front: 30/15º
  • Side: 30/25º
  • Rear: 30/12º
  • Top: 12/83º

 

  • Gun Mantlet: 30/round

Superstructure

  • Front: 30/9º
  • Side: 30/0º
  • Rear: 21/29º
  • Top: 17/*

Hull

  • Front: 30/21
  • Side: 30/0º
  • Rear: 21/10º
  • Top: 16/*

Torsion bar first introduced on this variant. This variant had an increase in armour protection and thus increased in weight, which was carried by the new suspension design which was of 6 road wheels individually supported by these torsion bars. Escape hatches were added on each side of the turret, which was a single plate instead of segmented plates. A larger engine and new gear box. From 1940-1942 some were converted to carry the 5cm KwK L/42. It also utilized the Drivers Visor30, and had a commanders cupola screwed to the top of the turret with two hatch covers. 

 

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  • CHASSIS: 61001 - 61650

 

Panzerkampfwagen III Ausf. F

 

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Manufacturer: Daimler Benz, Henschel, MAN, Alkett, FAMO.

 

Crew: 5

Weight: 19.8 Tons

Length: 5.38m

Width: 2.91m

Height: 2.44m

Engine: Maybach HL120TRM

Gearbox: 10 Forward, 4 reverse

Speed: 40km/h

Range: 165km

Radio: FuG5

 

Armament: one 3.7cm KwK L/46.5 two 7.92mm MG34 

Traverse: 360º by hand main gun. 15º left 20º right MG

Elevation: -10º +20º main gun.  -10º, +10º MG

Sight: TZF5a - KgZF2

Ammunition: 131 Pzgr and Spgr - 4,500 Patr SmK

 

Armour: 

 

Turret (mm/angle)

  • Front: 30/15º
  • Side: 30/25º
  • Rear: 30/12º
  • Top: 12/83º

 

  • Gun Mantlet: 30/round

Superstructure

  • Front: 30/9º
  • Side: 30/0º
  • Rear: 21/29º
  • Top: 17/*

Hull

  • Front: 30/21
  • Side: 30/0º
  • Rear: 21/10º
  • Top: 16/*

The Ausf. F was basically the same machine as the Ausf. E, also having the Drivers Visor30. The most noticeable change between the variants was to the ignition system. On the upper hull were added cast air intakes for circulation to the brakes and final drive cooling. Most were like the Ausf. E, produced with the 3.7cm, but some were fitted with the 5cm. This variants also had increased armour in the addition of added 30mm plates at the front of the hull and superstructure.

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Heliosiah

Heliosiah 4,718

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Why does it say "road wheels" in the first ones description?

The 6 wheels on the bottom of the track are "road wheels"

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CC2224

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I will luahg so hard when the german fanboys that beg for era MM realize that this will face KV-1s.

I will laugh so hard when the Russian fanboys beg that the tiger/tiger2 and panthers to be nerfed

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Nordhammer

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Well for the ones that were talking MM by year. The Pz IIIE and F by the time of Barbarossa were already being or had been converted to Pz IIIG and H standards.

Really was wondering that in the tech tree  topic why not have the Pz IIIG-H models first then add on the earlier Pz III,s when the Allied trees are released.

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Nebfer

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Well here's the Production run of the Panzer III Per Panzer tracts, with much of the changes made between them (obviously not all of them)

 

4th build series: Ausf E (96 made)
December 1938 to ~October 1939

5th build series: Ausf F (~435 of 435 ordered)
August 1939 to July 1940 with ~350 made
July to May 1941 with 50mm gun ~85 made (due to production issues, partly due to adding the new gun early)

--near start of production--
air vents for the brakes -front maintenance hatches
Fake periscope on signal port dropped
radio operators side vision port added

--introduced improvements--

~march 1940: turret ring guard added
~may 1940: the rubber tires on the road wheels increased by 20mm, to reduce wear
March 1940: Notek light added
June 1940: MGs modified to belt from drum
July 1940: 50mm gun introduced as is ammo racks and a turret ventilator
September 1940: return rollers moved closer to the shock absorbers

 

6th build series: Ausf G (~600 total /from 800 ordered)
March 1940 to September 1940 for 37mm gun tanks ~160 made
July 1940 to ~May 1941 for 50mm gun tanks ~440 made

--improvements over Ausf F--
various automotive
Rear armor increased to 30mm from 20mm
Pivoting visor for the driver
New commanders cupola (though many early ones retained the older one)
left turret signal port (roof) dropped
Turret vent fan installed in the roof

--introduced improvements--
Early on turret hatch vision ports modified
May 1940: the rubber tires on the road wheels increased by 20mm, to reduce wear
June 1940: MGs modified to belt from Drum feeds
June 1940: recoil guard modified due to Vent fan
July 1940: 50mm gun introduced
Late 1940: 30mm bolt on armor added to the front and rear hull (the bolt on armor is not actually a Ausf H trait, but where retroactive additions, for the earlier models at lest).

 

7th build series: Ausf H (~286 total /from 760 ordered, dropped in favor of Ausf Js armor layout)
October 1940 to April 1941
--Improvements over Ausf G--
armor and internal improvements on most parts
Intended for the 50mm gun from the start
Gun mantle armored increased to 35mm (from 30mm)
smoke grenades protected by armor
30mm bolt on armor as standard
--introduced--
February 1941: Tropen modifications

 

8th build series: Ausfs J, L, M & N
Ausf J
March 1941 to May 1942 ~1602 made -two batches 779 & 823 with L42 gun
--improvements over Ausf H--
50mm front and rear hull armor
50mm frontal turret armor
other up armoring
Ball MG mount
single piece access hatches on front hull
improved brake vents
various automotive improvements

--introduced--
Asuf J turret - May 1941 though not all Js had this turret
Ball MG mount cover - June 1941
spare road wheel - October 1941
spare track links - December 1941
new Fire extinguisher - January 1942
Spaced armor - ~November 1941 / May 1942 (Vorpanzer was introduced in the Ausf Js run not the commonly held notion of it being an Ausf L trait)

 

Ausf L /Ausf Js starting in December 1941 "L proper" April 1942 ~1470 produced in three batches # 951, 501, 18 ending in October 1942

In April 1942 All Ausf Js that had the L60 where retroactively reclassified Ausf L (per Jentz and Doyle theirs no difference between an Ausf J with the L60 and a Ausf L).

Spaced armor -December 1941 most by June
Turret ring guard dropped June 1942, total by October 1942
Single piece engine covers -December 1941
engine Vent Hoods -December 1941
Turret vision ports deleted -April 1942 completed by August 1942
Hull Escape hatches deleted -June 1942 completed by October 1942
Head lights -September 1942
Smoke grenades -September 1942
Tow hook mods -September 1942 (armor extensions formed into tow hooks)

 

Ausf M -October 1942 to February 1943, 517 made in two batches 230 / 287
modifications to exhaust for deep wading the most noticeable difference
smoke grenades -not finished from L
tow hooks -not finished from L
head lights -not finished from L

Ausf N - July 1942 to August 1943, two batches ~447 made (July to October 1942) and 167 (February to August 1943)
noticeable difference is the 75mm L24 gun
Drivers periscope modifications -February 1943
Commanders cupola -March 1943
Skirts -may 1943

 

5,453 produced, not including the command tanks and the earlier prototypes.
 

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Rapanui128pl

Rapanui128pl 642

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Ok guys, I'm desperate and angry. How the **** this tank's have max speed 67km/h? IN OFFROAD :facepalm: ? no, no, no... German tanks faster than Russian?
it's not real... many sources gives a similar speed: 40km/h on road, 18km/h on offroad. [spoiler] http://moderndrawings.jexiste.be/WW2Drawings/Files/1-Vehicles/Axis/1-Germany/02-mPanzers/PzKpfw3/Data/PzKpfw-3E.htm

http://moderndrawings.jexiste.be/WW2Drawings/Files/1-Vehicles/Axis/1-Germany/02-mPanzers/PzKpfw3/Data/PzKpfw-3F.htm [/spoiler]
I'm waiting for explanations.

/sorry for my english

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Flyntlocke

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I remember this very topic coming up early in CBT but don't remember the answer. Whilst waiting for someone with a better memory may I suggest it may be a tuner tank offered by AMG? :Ps

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FryingTigerWT

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That Quoted speed is the maximum speed as designed (about 67.07 KPH in 10th gear and full rpm, no ammo, just a driver no crew, stripped down, etc, purely on a test track with rubberized treads for testing). However, that does not constitute that it could do so under combat conditions etc.This is a projected figure based upon the tanks weight, power, torque, load, etc and what it would be capable of under maximum ideal conditions. All vehicle manufacturers and designers even today use such a figure. (A race horse runs faster without a Jockey)

 

But I digress, This tank was capable of producing when stocked and crewed a maximum of only about 35-38 kph ideally, However, that's on a hard surface or a paved road surface like a concrete road, for most roads in europe, like hard packed dirt, stone, gravel, cobblestone that drops to 22-30 kph depending. off road and in the dirt and mud it lowers to 10-12 kph.

 

Advanced in the series allowed these tanks to maneuver, accelerate, transition, etc through these surfaces faster, as wheels, tracks, what have you got more accommodating and the engine gave more torque and the suspension more surface and less drag.

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