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"L'Héritage des Cigognes" - The French Tree Project

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EDIT: This topic is also the right place if anyone has technical questions about French aircrafts. We won't have answers for everything, but we've been through a lot of research nonetheless!

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moved to new france/aircraft section
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Also here a very interesting document reviewing the history of french aircrafts :http://www.mediafire.com/view/myfiles/#d0311dfepaeza3a

 

 

Details on abbreviations:

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A=Amiot

Be=Bernard

SNCAO or CAO=Société nationale des constructions aéronautiques de l'ouest

ANF=Ateliers de Construction du Nord de la France

Br=Bréguet

F or NC=Farman
S=Spad (in fact Blériot-Spad)
CR=Caudron-Renault
D=Dewoitine
Late= Latécoère

Lo=Loire
LeO=Latécoère et Olivier

LN=Loire-Nieuport

MS=Morane-Saulnier

MB=Marcel Bloch
MD=Marcel Dassault (Bloch and Dassault are the same Marcel, he changed his name after the war)
Ni=Nieuport

NiD=Nieuport-Delage

Po=Potez
SE=Sud-Est

SO=Sud-Ouest
VG=Vernisse and Galtier (Engineers of Arsenal de l'Aéronautique)
VB=Vernisse and Badie (of course engineers of Arsenal)
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Dornier Do 24, build and used by French during and after war.
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== Heavy Fighters - Light Bombers section ==

 

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==  Medium/Heavy Bombers ==

 

 

 

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== Sea-planes section ==

 

 

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Amiot 354: http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/76583-lhéritage-des-cigognes-the-french-tree-project/page-8

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== Armements, References, Pictures, Skins, etc... ==

 

Pictures

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D.520

http://www.bibert.fr/Joseph_Bibert_fichiers/D520.htm

http://ww2fighters.e-monsite.com/pages/dewoitine-d-520-2.html

http://d520.aeronavale-porteavions.com/index.php?act=780

 

MS.406

http://www.bibert.fr/Joseph_Bibert_fichiers/MS406.htm

http://forum.aviation-ancienne.fr/t7926-morane-406-n759-du-s-lt-calmel-gc-iii-1-12-mai-40

 

VG.33

http://forum.pegase.tv/viewtopic.php?p=9532

 

Breguet 690

http://www.39-45strategie.com/articles-historiques/armes-unites/armes-et-unites/france/breguet-690/

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/5582/br69533v4qr.jpg

http://aerostories.free.fr/dossiers/AA/Bre693/

 

Leo 45

http://www.39-45strategie.com/articles-historiques/armes-unites/armes-et-unites/france/liore-et-olivier-45/

 

CR.714

http://www.aviastar.org/air/france/caudron_cr-714.php

 

Bloch 155

http://fandavion.free.fr/bloch155.htm

 

Potez 63

http://www.lecharpeblanche.fr/2012/05/30/4899/

 

General

http://www.amv83.fr/Sigaero/accueil.htm

http://www.vvsregiaavions.com/avionsindex.html

http://aviarmor.net/aww2/_photo_aircraft/f_fra/Caudron%20CR.714/

http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/Braas/Braas.htm

http://www.ailes-legendaires.com/pages/1939-1945/avions-francais-seconde-guerre-mondiale.php

http://rmichau.pagesperso-orange.fr/AcazC2/Illustration1934/Illustration1934.htm

http://rmichau.pagesperso-orange.fr/AcazC2/Illustration1938/Illustration1938.htm

http://avionswwii.free.fr/nation.php?nation=fra

http://atf40.forumculture.net/t446-les-projets-inacheves

http://www.airpages.ru/eng/efr_main.shtml

http://atf40.forumculture.net/t446p15-les-projets-inacheves

http://atf40.forumculture.net/t583-les-types-de-chasseurs

http://atf40.forumculture.net/t2964-hydravions

http://atf40.forumculture.net/t580-les-types-de-bombardiers-en-service

http://forummarine.forumactif.com/t5945p15-projet-uchronique-alternative-historique

http://aviadrix.blogspot.fr/2012/02/les-series-experimentales-de-chasseurs.html

http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=32859.0

http://ww2photo.se/index.htm

http://perfiles.elgrancapitan.org/index.php?view=category&id=16%3Afrancia&option=com_content&Itemid=33

http://www.air-defense.net/forum/topic/16610-avions-de-la-seconde-guerre-mondiale/page-3

http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/62950-french-tech-tree/?hl=french+tree#entry971716ttp://forum.aviation-ancienne.fr/

http://aviadrix.blogspot.ch/search/label/chasse

http://www.aviafrance.com/aviafrance1.php?ID=3178&ID_CONSTRUCTEUR=92

http://www.zi.ku.dk/personal/drnash/model/spain/did.html

http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=32859.0

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Skins

 

Here are some skins from French Forces made by our fans for all planes in the game...  Enjoy!!

 

F4U Aéronavale Française

 

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14.F - Auteur: Poulator

Téléchargement: http://www.mediafire...b8uo/14.F.6.rar

 

15.F - Auteur : RLC
Téléchargement:Téléchargement: http://live.warthunder.com/post/1968/

 

F4U-7 de la 14 F - Auteur: RLC
Téléchargement: http://live.warthunder.com/post/2776/

 

 

P-47

 

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P-47D-25-REUnit: 1 Escadrille, GC I/4 "Navarre

Téléchargement: Non disponible encore

 

P-47D, GC III/3 "Ardennes", Free French Airforce, 1944. Auteur: DrNooooo
Téléchargement: http://live.warthunder.com/post/2543/

 

 

D.520

 

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D.520 du 1er groupe de chasse FFI "Corps Franc Pommiès" - Auteur: SPA153_Raylin

Téléchargement: http://www.nexusmods.com/warthunder/mods/27/?

 

 

D.520 du groupe de chasse 3 "Normandie"- Auteur: SPA153_Raylin

Téléchargement: http://www.nexusmods...under/mods/29/?

 

 

Curtiss Hawk H-75

 

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Curtiss Hawk H-75C.1 (A-2) "white 11", 3 escadrille GC II/5 May 1940 - Auteur: Hauggy

Téléchargement: http://live.warthunder.com/post/2622/

 

Curtiss Hawk H-75C.1 (A-1) "white 14", 1 escadrille GC I/5, May 1940 - Auteur: Hauggy
Téléchargement: http://live.warthunder.com/post/2401/

 

Curtiss Hawk H75-A4 French airforce 1940 - Auteur: Hauggy
Téléchargement: http://live.warthunder.com/post/2260/

 

 

Blenheim

 

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Bristol Blenheim IV Free French Forces - Auteur :Hauggy

Téléchargement:http://live.warthunder.com/post/3295/

 

 

Douglas DB7

 

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Douglas DB7 B3 France 1940 - Auteur: Hauggy

Téléchargement: http://live.warthunder.com/post/2160/

 

 

 

P-40

 

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P-40 du Groupe de Chasse 2/5 La Fayette - Auteur: SPA153_Raylin

http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/125770-p-40-gc-ii5-la-fayette-skins-et-templates/

Téléchargement: https://www.mediafir...q3hgbipgr/Skins

 

 

PBY-A Catalina

 

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PBY-A Catalina de la Flottile 8F - Auteur : SuicidAIR12

http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/130965-skin-historique-by-suicidaire12/
Téléchargement:http://www.partage-facile.com/23LKZN3OYC/pby_5a_early_a.tga.html

http://www.partage-facile.com/Z3FCFR3PTS/pby_5a_early_a_dmg.tga.html

 

 

Hurricane mark I

 

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Hurricane mark I groupe Alsace - Auteur: Hauggy

Téléchargement: http://live.warthunder.com/post/3295/

 

 

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http://militaria1940.forumactif.com/t307-armee-de-l-air-1940

http://www.aviationartstore.com/AP_French_Aircraft_II.htm

http://ww2drawings.jexiste.fr/Files/Site.htm

http://www.vvsregiaavions.com/AvionsHTML/aamiot3501.htm

http://www.charlie-bravo.net/AvdeLeg/tablprof/profilsdivers.htm

http://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints/ww2planes/various/

http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww15/b/427/21/0

http://weaponsandwarfare.com/?cat=90

http://www.bravobravoaviation.com/french/Profils/Dewoitine%20D.520/0%20Dewoitine%20D.520.htm

http://gaubs.free.fr/

http://www.1940lafrancecontinue.org/FTL/images/avions/AOI/

http://www.nags-gallery.com/other.htm

http://www.gaetanmarie.com/fr/gm2.htm

http://toiles.volantes.free.fr/Croquis%20divers.htm

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Armée de l'Air structure and emblems

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http://atf40.forumculture.net/t1739-structures-et-noms-de-aaf40

http://www.traditions-air.fr/index.htm

http://france1940.free.fr/adla/ada_mai.html

http://www.cieldegloire.com/gc_1_alsace.php

http://richard.ferriere.free.fr/camouflage/insigne/insigne.html

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This project is a work in progress. Since it represents a lot of work to gather and study documentation on potential candidates, we divided the work in three sub-trees, which will be published one at a time:

  • Fighter aircrafts
  • Bombers
  • Recce, Seaplanes and Foreign designs

 

L'Héritage des Cigognes is mainly focused on French aircrafts, but it's also the project of the French-speaking community. As such, Belgian and Swiss planes may be included in the third part.

 

We hope to give you an insight of what War Thunder future French tech tree will look like. Aircrafts were selected based on the reliability of the technical data that can be found, and their relevance in the universe of War Thunder. They are all potential candidates.

 

We are aware that opinions diverge on the role of prototype aircrafts, so they did even among our team. Therefore it was decided to sort planes in three categories:

  • Required
  • Probable
  • Potential

 

Please note that all three categories are already represented in current version of the game! Once again, all the aircrafts are real candidates, which can be modeled as accurately as a plane can be in War Thunder...

 

It will be up to you to build your own dreamed tech tree...

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Good news. some bomber models

 

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I will follow topic, I think my signature explain why I'm looking forward to French planes.

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I just hope that many of those models still exist somewhere in real life (museums?) so Gaijin can make realistic cockpits... oh and how I would love to be a gunner in that flying bus called the Amiot 143M!

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Looks really interesting so far, looking forward to see what you're going to do with a french tree.

 

Just one thing though, please no captured / lend-lease planes. I'm sure French has enough potential premiums on their own, captured / lend-lease plains are a really bad idea. (Thread about that: http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/74267-historical-battle-captured/ )

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Looks really interesting so far, looking forward to see what you're going to do with a french tree.

 

Just one thing though, please no captured / lend-lease planes. I'm sure French has enough potential premiums on their own, captured / lend-lease plains are a really bad idea. (Thread about that: http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/74267-historical-battle-captured/ )

 

What is wrong with sold and used in large numbers planes? French tree without Hawk H-75, you serious?

But i agree to captured planes, pls try avoid it.

 

However French NC.900 can be nice.

 

 

France - NC.900 [2]
In the immediate post-war period, the French Armee de l'Air operated FW 190 fighters (French designation NC.900). 65 FW 190s were built in 1945 and 1946 by the Société Nationale de Construction Aéronautiques du Centre (S.N.C.A.C) at Cravant. Between 600 and 900 people worked at Cravant, and the facility was also known as camp 918. Cravant had been a Luftwaffe repair facility, and 127 FW 190 fuselages and 162 wings of FW 190 A-4s, A-5s, and A-8s were captured there by the Allies in October 1944. About 100 BMW 801s were found at Dordogne, and the French planned to assemble 125, under the designation AACr-6, or NC.900. The first NC.900 was flown on 1 March 1945, but there were many problems with the new aircraft. Sabotaged airframe parts and the use of hastily recycled metals meant many aircraft were of poor quality. Armee de l'Air FW 190s only saw service for a few years, before more modern fighters were acquired. The principal operator of the NC.900 was GC 111/5 Normandie Niemen, which received just fourteen NC.900s. They flew with the unit for 18 months. A majority of the remaining 51 NC.900s were used by the CEV (centre d'essais en vol) at Brétigny. The final flight by a French NC.900 was on 22 June 1949.

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Looks really interesting so far, looking forward to see what you're going to do with a french tree.

 

Just one thing though, please no captured / lend-lease planes. I'm sure French has enough potential premiums on their own, captured / lend-lease plains are a really bad idea. (Thread about that: http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/74267-historical-battle-captured/ )

 

France use many Land Leased planes likes F4U, F8F, P-63, P-47, Spitfires in combats, and use the NC-900 after the war.

 

I wan't to fly them in french colour   :Ps

 

French Bearcat:

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NC-900:

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Just one thing though, please no captured / lend-lease planes. I'm sure French has enough potential premiums on their own, captured / lend-lease plains are a really bad idea. (Thread about that: http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/74267-historical-battle-captured/ )

We can probably find some exception like the F4u-7, which was built specifically for the French navy, but in reality for our mid tier we will need some lend-lease used by the free french, or jump some rank without xp, i think!

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F4U-7, a version of Corsair built for France will be nice.

 

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