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Self Propelled Anti Aircraft Guns

Before starting, I searched thru the forum but couldnt find this suggestion. If this was suggested before Im sorry. Also, I was waiting for release of Tank Tree's to check out if they are at there or not. And I was going to post one by one but I thought that it would make a chaos so Im going to suggest every Self Propelled Anti Aircraft Tank from this thread.
 
Hi! As you know, self propelled anti aircraft guns played a big role in WW2. As I say above, Im suggesting these vehicles to be added to Nations' Ground Trees.

 

Some of these tanks are produced in mass numbers, some of them saw combat, some of them didnt, some of them are prototypes only.
 
(Of course, because of the limitation, I cant post the picture of every single one of them, also because it would be too long, I wouldn't write the information of unit. I will give wikipedia links/MilitaryFactory.com and some other links. You can check it by pressing to that link)
 
American
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Let's start with my favourite, M42 Duster.
 
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Yeah, I know, it looks rusty.
 
Here is the link of wikipedia; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M42_Duster
 
M19 Gun Carriage(M19 Twin 40mm), the big cousin of M42 Duster, was created from M24 Chaffe chassis. http://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/detail.asp?armor_id=323
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Sherman Skink http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skink_anti-aircraft_tank

Edit: As said, Sherman skink isnt American. It's Canadian. So it can come to British or American tech tree as premium maybe?

 

T52 - 40 mm Bofors aa-gun and two .50 cal. MG in a turret - M4 Sherman Chassis

 

M3 Maxson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M3_Stuart

 

T85(Anti Aircraft version M5A1)  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M3_Stuart
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German(and Hungarian/Swedish)
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Flakpanzer 38(t) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flakpanzer_38(t)
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Wirbelwind http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirbelwind
Flakpanzer IV Kugelblitz http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kugelblitz
Flakpanzer IV Ostwind http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostwind
Sd.Kfz. 161/3 Möbelwagen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Möbelwagen
Luftvärnskanonvagn L-62 anti II (and it's Hungarian version, 40M Nimrod) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luftvärnskanonvagn_L-62_Anti_II http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40M_Nimrod

Grille 10 Flakcannon series http://www.achtungpanzer.com/grille-series-cricket-series.htm
 
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Italian
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Semovente da 90/53. This was a Italian Self-Propelled gun which was used as a TD and Anti-Aircraft gun. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semovente_90/53
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M15/42(Anti Aircraft version) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M15/42_tank http://www.assocarri.it/Mezzi/Semovente_contraereo_M15-42.pdf (in Italian language)
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Russian

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T-90 AA Gun(Anti Aircraft version of T-70 light tank) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-90_anti-aircraft_tank#T-90_self-propelled_anti-aircraft_gun
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ZSU-37 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZSU-37
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British
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Centaur AA Mk I, Centaur AA Mk II,(Anti Aircraft version of Crusader Mk III tank) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centaur_tank
British Light Tank VI AA  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_Tank_Mk_VI

Crusader AA MkI, MkII and MkIII http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusader_tank It has some variations with several weapons.
(This picture looks epic btw)
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Japanese
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Anti Aircraft Version of Type 2 Ka-Mi Amphibious Tank
 
It has a heavy anti aircraft weapon + Turret to destroy enemy tanks incoming + It can swim! What would you need more!
http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/30366-特二式内火艇 カミ-type-2-ka-mi-amphibious-tank-imperial-japanese-navy/page-3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_2_Ka-Mi
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Type 98 20 mm AAG Tank(Anti Aircraft version of Type-1 Ho-ki) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_98_20_mm_AAG_Tank
 
Type 98 Ta-Se 20 mm anti-aircraft prototype(Anti Aircraft version of Type 98 Ke-Ni light tank)  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20_mm_Anti-Aircraft_Tank_"Ta-Se"
 
Type-1 Ta-Ha(Anti Aircraft version of Type 1 Chi-he) http://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/detail.asp?armor_id=500
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I didnt put half tracks, because I dont know will Gaijin look good or bad to play us with half-tracks. Also, If you found some more anti aircraft tank(but between 1930's - 1953), post here and I would add it.

 

Edit: Half-tracks were confirmed by Gaijin, will upload all the half-tracks to here soon.

 

Edit2: Forgot the half-tracks, will add them really soon like tomorrow soon(I hope)

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The current tank trees are preliminary.  That being said, it is not the final release or fully intended.  It can or may be changed in the future, so for now, think of it as a teaser-guideline.

 

Since you put some effort in the post, i'm moving it to the General discussions thread for now.

 

Wait till we get a more complete release tree(s) before throwing these kinds of suggestions down, 'kay?

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Yeah thats some effort OP, its pretty much confirmed that we'll be getting mobile aa, i for one can't wait to fill the sky with HE shells.

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The current tank trees are preliminary.  That being said, it is not the final release or fully intended.  It can or may be changed in the future, so for now, think of it as a teaser-guideline.

 

Since you put some effort in the post, i'm moving it to the General discussions thread for now.

 

Wait till we get a more complete release tree(s) before throwing these kinds of suggestions down, 'kay?

Yeah thats some effort OP, its pretty much confirmed that we'll be getting mobile aa, i for one can't wait to fill the sky with HE shells.

 

Thanks for not deleting this. Okay, I will hold the other tank suggestions some more.

 

I must have skipped that part(that it is pretty much confirmed that we'll be getting mobile aa)

 

Does anyone knows about half-tracked ones?

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Does anyone knows about half-tracked ones?

One of the more famous ones was the M16 MGMC - the M3 Halftrack with quadmount M2 Browning .50 cal. MG's

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Also, the US Army used the M19 GMC - consisting of two 40mm Bofors AA Guns mounted on the chassis of the M24 Chaffee

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I can't imagine playing anything more intense: total situational awareness against both air and ground threats. And if you have a couple of larger AA guns, you can hurt tanks too.

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I can't imagine playing anything more intense: total situational awareness against both air and ground threats. And if you have a couple of larger AA guns, you can hurt tanks too.

And it would be nicer teamplay. 2 guys playing tanks, 2 guys aa and everyone in a squad would get some kills. Less debate who gets what and more reward for helping each other.

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There was also Crusader AA:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusader_tank

475px-IWM-H-28356-Crusader-AA-19430325.j

479px-IWM-B-8439-Crusader-AA-194408.jpg

479px-IWM-B-7738-Crusader-AA-19440719.jp

 

 

One of the more famous ones was the M16 MGMC - the M3 Halftrack with quadmount M2 Browning .50 cal. MG's

[spoiler]757px-US_Army_M16_MGMC_AA_Half-track.jpg[/spoiler]

Also, the US Army used the M19 GMC - consisting of two 40mm Bofors AA Guns mounted on the chassis of the M24 Chaffee

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It is named by Centaur tank and it is on the list so no problem.

 

"One of the more famous ones was the M16 MGMC - the M3 Halftrack with quadmount M2 Browning .50 cal. MG's

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Also, the US Army used the M19 GMC - consisting of two 40mm Bofors AA Guns mounted on the chassis of the M24 Chaffee

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Thanks for that but I meant that "does anyone know about will they accept half-tracs or not"

 

 

I can't imagine playing anything more intense: total situational awareness against both air and ground threats. And if you have a couple of larger AA guns, you can hurt tanks too.

And it would be nicer teamplay. 2 guys playing tanks, 2 guys aa and everyone in a squad would get some kills. Less debate who gets what and more reward for helping each other.

 

Totally agree to both of you.

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It is named by Centaur tank and it is on the list so no problem.

 

Nope. These are based of the Crusader. They are different tanks,

There is also Light Tank VI AA:

485px-IWM-E-16827-light-tank-AA-MkI-1942

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Sorry for delay, I put the AA's that was mentioned to the list

 

I also categorised because it was getting complicated

 

I also added another AA, Japanese Ta-Ha.

 

 

I see you are a fan of AAA

Yes I am.

 

If a wild cavalry charge appeared, that guy would be so effective.

Lol yes:D

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I added Italian section too but I would have to give a better link about M15/42, I'm working on it.

 

Edit: I also added Type 2 Kami Amphibious tank&Anti Aircraft.

 

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US SP AA, just prototypes

 

T52 - 40 mm + 2 x 50 machine guns

 

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M3 AA - Quad 50 Maxton mount

 

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T85 (quad 20 mm)

 

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I wanted to add them but couldnt find a reliable source, actually I couldnt find any source for T52 AA. Need help over here.

 

BTW, I found this.

http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/UnitedStates/selfpropelledguns/selfpropelledguns.html

 

And this; (another picture of T52 AA which we can understand that gun is HUGE!

 

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I wanted to add them but couldnt find a reliable source, actually I couldnt find any source for T52 AA. Need help over here.

 

BTW, I found this.

http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/UnitedStates/selfpropelledguns/selfpropelledguns.html

 

And this; (another picture of T52 AA which we can understand that gun is HUGE!

 

03626.jpg

http://www.weaponsofwwii.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1426&start=30

 

http://www.armorama.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=196493&page=1

There's also a nice pic of turret...

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