Morvran_ 621 Report post Posted March 22 (edited) I've been taking the HMS London out for a spin recently as I absolutely love its selection of Tertieary weapon payload. But its 8inch guns feel very week to me, I can put salvo after salvo intot a light cruiser and not see much effect, especially compared to the 6inch guns found on ships like the HMS Belfast seem to absolutely shread everything with ease, even heavy cruisers. Considering most/all british heavy cruisers have the same guns/shells (I think) I assume that all ships would feel much the same. Is this just an unfortunate circumstance of game design or is it just me? Edited March 24 by Morvran_ 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razielkaine 4,861 Report post Posted March 22 4 hours ago, Morvran_ said: I've been taking the HMS London out for a spin recently as I absolutely love its selection of Tertieary weapon payload. But its 8inch guns feel very week to me, I can put salvo after salvo intot a light cruiser and not see much effec, especially compared to the 6inch guns found on ships like the HMS Belfast seem to absolutely shread everything with ease, even heavy cruisers. Considering most/all british heavy cruisers have the same guns/shells (I think) I assume that all ships would feel much the same. Is this just an unfortunate circumstance of game design or is it just me? London is pretty nice. Try switching up your ammo and targeting different parts of the ships for the best effects. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morvran_ 621 Report post Posted March 22 10 hours ago, Razielkaine said: London is pretty nice. Try switching up your ammo and targeting different parts of the ships for the best effects. Yep, I know that, but when you nail the ammo storage of a helana with 50 SAP rounds and nothing happens, or you hit the turrets of a heavy cruiser and just get "non-pen". It starts to get a little frustrating. especially when 6 inch SAP rounds will easily do both Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razielkaine 4,861 Report post Posted March 22 51 minutes ago, Morvran_ said: Yep, I know that, but when you nail the ammo storage of a helana with 50 SAP rounds and nothing happens, or you hit the turrets of a heavy cruiser and just get "non-pen". It starts to get a little frustrating. especially when 6 inch SAP rounds will easily do both There was a reason the Brits didn't really do heavy cruisers and used 6 inch ships Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morvran_ 621 Report post Posted March 22 7 hours ago, Razielkaine said: There was a reason the Brits didn't really do heavy cruisers and used 6 inch ships Yep, though we dont even have the things that made british ships great, like radar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razielkaine 4,861 Report post Posted March 23 1 hour ago, Morvran_ said: Yep, though we dont even have the things that made british ships great, like radar Very true Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWarmFridge 34 Report post Posted March 23 iirc the abysmal performance of the 8inch shells comes from when all 8 inch guns were overperforming, so gaijin just did a blanket nerf on them, the british and the italians got nerfed because of it. this is the story i was given about them when i asked around, i dont know how true it is as when this supposed change happened i wasnt as invested in wt as i am nowadays. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morvran_ 621 Report post Posted March 24 On 23/03/2023 at 01:17, TheWarmFridge said: iirc the abysmal performance of the 8inch shells comes from when all 8 inch guns were overperforming, so gaijin just did a blanket nerf on them, the british and the italians got nerfed because of it. this is the story i was given about them when i asked around, i dont know how true it is as when this supposed change happened i wasnt as invested in wt as i am nowadays. Sounds exactly like something Gaijin would do 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkang2828 1,415 Report post Posted March 24 (edited) On 22/03/2023 at 09:03, Morvran_ said: I've been taking the HMS London out for a spin recently as I absolutely love its selection of Tertieary weapon payload. But its 8inch guns feel very week to me, I can put salvo after salvo intot a light cruiser and not see much effect, especially compared to the 6inch guns found on ships like the HMS Belfast seem to absolutely shread everything with ease, even heavy cruisers. Considering most/all british heavy cruisers have the same guns/shells (I think) I assume that all ships would feel much the same. Is this just an unfortunate circumstance of game design or is it just me? Britain just really suffers from (historically) not having proper AP shells for their cruisers. Although in my experience the 8-inch guns are at least better off than the 6-inch guns, thanks to the massive amount of explosive and a lot more pen(around the same level as some 6-inch AP shells). Edited March 24 by kkang2828 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morvran_ 621 Report post Posted March 24 8 hours ago, kkang2828 said: Britain just really suffers from (historically) not having proper AP shells for their cruisers. Although in my experience the 8-inch guns are at least better off than the 6-inch guns, thanks to the massive amount of explosive and a lot more pen(around the same level as some 6-inch AP shells). Though is WT, fire rate and volume of shells is unfortunately more valuable, especially when you consider the spread and low fire rate on the London. On average I get 2-3 kills in the london, unless im in a game vs a lot of Boffets, but even then, they can be annoying to kill. In a game last night with the Belfast I ended with 13 kills, because the 6inch shells will easily one shot most destroyers especially the boffets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkang2828 1,415 Report post Posted March 25 (edited) 13 hours ago, Morvran_ said: Though is WT, fire rate and volume of shells is unfortunately more valuable, especially when you consider the spread and low fire rate on the London. On average I get 2-3 kills in the london, unless im in a game vs a lot of Boffets, but even then, they can be annoying to kill. In a game last night with the Belfast I ended with 13 kills, because the 6inch shells will easily one shot most destroyers especially the boffets. Against destroyers, yes the faster firing 6-inchers are much better. I was talking more of cruiser vs cruiser situations where the lack of pen on the 6-inch SAP causes issues. Edited March 25 by kkang2828 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morvran_ 621 Report post Posted March 25 11 hours ago, kkang2828 said: Against destroyers, yes the faster firing 6-inchers are much better. I was talking more of cruiser vs cruiser situations where the lack of pen on the 6-inch SAP causes issues. Even then, I find the 6 inch SAP on the Belfast more effective than the 8inch SAPs and I think its purely 12x decently accurate shells every 7 seconds vs 8x not that accurate shells every 15 seconds. Any loss in AP potential is made up in just the pure volume of fire and the crew damage that does 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkang2828 1,415 Report post Posted March 29 (edited) On 26/03/2023 at 08:51, Morvran_ said: Even then, I find the 6 inch SAP on the Belfast more effective than the 8inch SAPs and I think its purely 12x decently accurate shells every 7 seconds vs 8x not that accurate shells every 15 seconds. Any loss in AP potential is made up in just the pure volume of fire and the crew damage that does Well each to their own. I find the 6-inch SAP's lack of pen very underwhelming. Edited March 29 by kkang2828 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
