Senior Forum Moderator TheElite96 5,804 Report post Posted March 7 WELCOME to the War Thunder Rumor Round-Up and Discussion Thread! Here you can discuss everything related to the upcoming major update, including rumors, data mines, and dev blogs. However, please AVOID these types of discussions: Wishlisting. Some examples: "I want the F-22 next update!" "Gaijin where are these vehicles!!!" <lists 10 vehicles they want in the game> There's a separate thread for this here. Vehicle spec discussions, such as armour, ammo, ordnance, guns, data sheets, performance. Some examples: "I hope for these vehicles, they will balance the game. They have XYZ ordnance and will counter the !" 2 page discussions about what type of ammo a new tank in a dev blog will get. Now this is fine for the most part since a vehicle in the dev blog is part of the next update, however it can escalate into completely other discussions so do be careful! There's plenty of threads for these discussions here. Bug reports, issues, suggestions, feedback for dev-server or testing. Some examples: "Abrams is missing its thermals. However that's not meant to be as it had this historically. Smin fix this!!!" "I think that Challenger 3 would be a good addition to British Ground tree, here are the specs for it" "This thing is bugged on the dev server, devs please fix it!" You can make a bug report here and suggestion here. When the dev server is up, use the DEV Server Section for feedback. Not avoiding these example discussions will mean your post is likely to be hidden by a moderator. Any continuation after that might mean you get a warning. You must remember that this is the most popular and active thread on the forum. Its aim is to put all of the next update's information in one place so it can be discussed amongst the community. Other discussions like outlined in the examples above can be discussed in proper forum sections. Often official Gaijin members will respond on this thread so do be sure to remain respectful! Otherwise they may just stop. Please also remember that everyone is entitled to their own opinions on what may be coming. If you follow the forum rules, you'll be okay! Please use the Sky Guardians Thread to discuss Major Update "Sky Guardians". Complaining here won't solve anything and is considered off-topic. FAQ Q: What is this thread about? A: This thread is about the upcoming major update and future content. Q: Will you add...? A: No. We are not developers, just nosy players. Q: Why isn't [vehicle] on the list? A: Either because there is no evidence that this vehicle will be added, or because no one told me that there is such evidence. Q: Why is [vehicle/feature] on the Denied list? A: Because said feature or vehicle was denied by Gaijin developers or their representatives at some point in the past. Q: Where did my post go? A: Off-Topic comments will often be hidden (not deleted) to keep this thread readable and on topic. No need to be alarmed or comment on the disappearing post(s), if concerned then PM Forum Moderators or Seniors. Q: When will we get the patch? A: Currently our best guess is sometime in May or June 2023. Q: What if I don't want to read all these pages to find out what will come? A: Read the OP. I and other moderators will frequently update it with new information. List of stuff related to next update, what we know so far: This is the list of stuff we know has been confirmed, plausible, denied and also data mine related stuff to the next update. If you think something is missing from this list, please tag @TheElite96 in a reply, or send a private message. First off, big image leak: https://imgur.com/a/5vuy8M5 Likely Spoiler French navy next update - Source Plausible Spoiler empty General overview of stuff collected over the last few updates, updated regularly: Stuff that has been confirmed officially by Gaijin will have " Confirmed: " in front of it. Aircraft: Spoiler Aircraft general Various aircraft model assets (some already added) - Source 1 / Source 2 United States A-20A (1942) - Source (note: old asset) A-4M - Source 1 / Source 2 F2G-2 - Source 1 / Source 2 P-35A - Source 1 / Source 2 YF2L-1 - Source 1 / Source 2 PV-2 (CDK finds) - Source PBM-5a (data finds, removed from files since) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 F-8A Crusader - Source F-89J - Source 1 / Source 2 F-89C (30 mm) - Source F-89C (Rockets) - Source J2M3 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) P-66 - Source 1 / Source 2 A-35B - Source 1 / Source 2 F6F-3 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: the F6F-5 came instead, unused since then) PBJ-1J-1 - Source 1 / Source 2 PV-2 - Source 1 / Source 2 SB2C-5 - Source 1 / Source 2 TBD-1 (1937) - Source 1 / Source 2 F-82G - Source tech tree picture picture found in the files Germany B-17 G - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) MiG-3 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) Mosquito FB Mk. VI - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) P-39Q-5 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) P-51B - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) Pe-2-359 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) Bf 110C-4 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: the C-7 came in its stead in 1.79, unused since then) H-75A-2 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 H-75A-4 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 B-24D - Source tech tree picture picture found in the files IL-4 - Source tech tree picture picture found in the files P-38G - Source tech tree picture picture found in the files P-51D-5 - Source tech tree picture picture found in the files Typhoon Mk. Ib - Source tech tree picture picture found in the files Typhoon Mk. Ib/late - Source tech tree picture picture found in the files Russia / Soviet MDR-6 - Source 1 / Source 2 P-47D-22 - Source 1 / Source 2 BI-6 - Source I250 - Source La-7r - Source MiG-19S (CDK find) - Source DI-6 - Source IL-20 - Source Yak-25 - Source I-215 - Source VI-100 - Source R-10 - Source Tu-12 - Source PBY-5 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) DB-3A - Source 1 / Source 2 Gudkov K-37 - Source 1 / Source 2 I-16 Type 17 - Source 1 / Source 2 LaGG-3-1 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) LaGG-3-29 - Source 1 / Source 2 MiG-15bis (NS-23) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 SB-2M-100a (Spain) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 MiG-3U - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files Great Britain Confirmed: Tornado ADV - Source 1 / Source 2 Baltimore Mk. V - Source Spitfire HF. Mk. VII - Source 1 / Source 2 Swift F. 2 - Source 1 / Source 2 Spitfire IX If c (data finds, removed from files since) - Source 1 / Source 2 Lincoln B Mk I (data finds) - Source 1 / Source 2 Whirlwind Mk II - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 Early Seafires - Source (Some variants mentioned here have been added) Maryland Mk I (data finds) - Source 1 / Source 2 Shackleton MR.Mk 1 (data finds) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 Welkin Mk.I (data finds, removed from files since) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 Welkin Mk.I late (data finds, removed from files since) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 Bf 109F-4 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) Boston Mk. II - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) J2M3 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) Catalina Mk. I - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) Catalina Mk. I RAAF - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) Hurricane Mk. I - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: the Hurricane Mk. I/late came in its stead, unused since the n) Mustang Mk. IA (p_51_mk1a) - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: the current one uses the p_51b model) H-75A-4 (Mohawk IV) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 Havoc Mk. I Pandora - Source 1 / Source 2 Intruder Mk. II - Source 1 / Source 2 Mustang Mk. I - Source 1 / Source 2 Japan J5N1 (late) - Source 1 / Source 2 J5N2 - Source Ki-64 - Source Ki-74 - Source Ki-88 - Source H8K1 - Source H8K4 - Source LaGG-3-8 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) Ki-45 ko tei - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 Ki-45 hei tei - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 G4M1 pre-1943 G5N2 - Source G8N2 - Source 1 / Source 2 Ki-43-III ko - Source 1 / Source 2 Removal of R2Y2s Planned - Source China Q5D - Source 1 / Source 2 Chinese P-36 found in CDK - Source H-75A-5 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 H-75M - Source 1 / Source 2 A6M5 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 B-17 - Source 1 / Source 2 La-7 - Source 1 / Source 2 Pe-2-359 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 P-26A-35 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 MiG-15bis (NS-23) - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files SB-2 (M-103U) (MV-3) - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files Italy Baltimore Mk. V - Source Bf 110C-3 - Source 1 / Source 2 D.520 - Source 1 / Source 2 Re.2000 G.A. Red 5 - Source France Baltimore Mk. V - Source M.B.151-C1 - Source SNCAO 200 - Source 1 / Source 2 H-75A-1 (1939) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 H-75A-2 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 H-75A-3 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files H-75A-3 (Vichy) - Source 1 / Source 2 Sweden Potential Swedish air tree candidates (pure guess work), Finnish ones, found in files - Source Pe-3bis - Source 1 / Source 2 H-75A-1 (Finland) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 H-75A-3 (Finland) - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files H-75A-4 (Finland) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 H-75A-6 (Finland) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files Israel empty Other aircraft The Netherlands: B-25J-30 - Source 1 / Source 2 H-75A-7 (NL) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files H-75N (Thai) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files Ground forces: Spoiler Ground forces general Regenerative steering - Source Time fused shells - Source 1 / Source 2 Damage model of wheeled vehicles for damage to suspension and wheels - Source Single player ground campaign in the works - Source New Japan map - Source United States T54E2 - Source 1 / Source 2 M4A4 (data finds) - Source 1 / Source 2 M3A3 (data finds) - Source M103A2 (possible) - Source Germany Leopard 1M - Source Pz.Kpfw. 38 NA - Source 1 / Source 2 Pz.Kpfw. IV E (H.A.) - Source SPz 12-3 (Typ 3Z 8DLa) - Source Pz.35t Romania Mare premium (CDK and data finds) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 Leopard PSO - Source Russia / Soviet 2S1 - Source BMD-4M - Source BMP-23 (BG) - Source GAZ-75 - Source 1 / Source 2 M-55S (SLO) - Source Object 140 - Source BA-3 - Source BA-6 - Source More armoured cars - Source PT-76 - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files T-90M (CDK finds) - Source Great Britain Olifant Mk. 1B - Source Rooikat ZA HVM - Source 1 / Source 2 //note: won't come due to only reaching mockup stage Vickers Mk. 11 - Source Cruiser Tank, Ram II - Source 1 / Source 2 Japan Ho-Ni II - Source China ZTS63 (1980) - Source ZTZ88B - Source Wan Cheng 2 - Source Confirmed: ZTS63A - Source Confirmed: Type 79 - Source Confirmed: PGZ88 - Source Confirmed: Sd Kfz 222 - Source Confirmed: Type 59-II - Source BT-5 - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files Ha-Go - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files T-34-85 (D-5T) - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files Italy Turán I (HUN) - Source Turán III (HUN) - Source Zrínyi I (HUN) - Source Zrínyi II (HUN) - Source 75/34 M43 with BREDA 8mm MG's on top - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 / Source 5 Plans to add more ground vehicles between 4.3 - 6.0 - Source France AMD 35 (SA 35) - Source AMD 35 (Kw.K. 39) - Source AMX 10 ACRA - Source AMX-50 1950 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 / Source 5 Citroën-Kégresse P19T - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 Sweden Strv 122B+ - Source Str v 74 (Rb 52) - Source Israel empty Naval: Spoiler Naval general New naval game modes - Source Texture updates for PT boats' 37mm M4. - Source tt_tta53_50_533mm for Riga class frigates. turret_127mm_mk32 is a slightly more modern 5 inch side arm for U.S. cruisers. - (Source) turret_130mm_bl109a_twin and turret_305mm_sm31_triple? - used on "Stalingrad" class Heavy Cruiser(Source) United States Indianapolis - Source Germany Gneisenau - Source Nassau - Source Tirpitz - Source Russia / Soviet Stalingrad - Source Oktyabrskaya Revolutsiya - Source "9M39 Igla on MPK pr.12412 currently WIP, to receive feature in a future update" Great Britain Fairmile D (601) ("bigcaptain") - Source Fairmile D (617) ("bigcaptain") - Source Renown - Source Japan Ise - Source Yamashiro - Source Yamato - Source China Confirmed: Plans for the Chinese navy - Source Italy MS74 Serie 2a (Torpedoboat) - Source Sparviero (P 420) (art) - Source France French fleet is planned - Source Sweden empty Helicopters: Spoiler General helicopters empty United States AH-6M - Source 1 / Source 2 AH-56A - Source 1 / Source 2 Germany H145M - Source 1 / Source 2 Russia / Soviet Mi-4V (CZ) - Source Great Britain Wessex HU. Mk. 5 - Source 1 / Source 2 Confirmed: Plans to develop the British helicopter research tree - Source Confirmed: Considering more helicopters, specifically the Westland Wessex - Source Japan empty China empty Italy Plans to expand Italian helicopters tree - source France empty Sweden Hkp9A (CB-3) - Source Israel empty Other helicopters Mi-24 Superhind not excluded as a possibility - Source Submarines: Spoiler General submarines Submarines unclear - Q&A so far said either "not now" or "not yet". Submarines might come eventually since they were in April Fools 2018. Submarines might be in the works due to this evidence: - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 Other: Spoiler Other general Cluster bombs coming at some stage - Source Battle of Nijmegen WWM map - Source Amazonas map - Source Far East naval map - Source Flat Fulda ground map - Source Kamenka Quarry map - Source Kharkov ground map - Source Krymsk V2 ground map - Source Leningrad map - Source Messina ground map - Source North Port ground map - Source Norway Fjords ground map - Source Pacific naval map - Source River naval map - Source Siegfried line ground map - Source Nations & Sub Trees More sub trees coming, no details on release time - Source Poland may be in the works, but no specific plans - Source Hungarian sub tree for Italy - Source 1 / Source 2 Unclear: Spoiler General unclear OV-10A unclear - being worked on by Nova, it's a possible candidate. Please remember to keep on-topic and respect each other. 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Senior Forum Moderator Pacifica 15,933 Report post Posted March 7 And.... Hello! Ok... I guess unlocking it helps.................... 3 1 2 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco_Argentum 1,503 Report post Posted March 7 (edited) Well, after the ejection seats in Sky Guardians I'm at 3/4 guesses. That just leaves the F-111B/CA-15 for this patch. Edited March 7 by Draco_Argentum 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Neyra 38 Report post Posted March 7 Hello! New Leo for Germany, where? xD 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsuraBlack 3 Report post Posted March 7 Hello everyone in the new update "Pansyr Guardians"! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
__Fleks__ 790 Report post Posted March 7 3 minutes ago, Pacifica said: And.... Hello! Ok... I guess unlocking it helps.................... Tell your colleagues that according to the Steam version, the hamster is dead, the update is not going on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubby_Vermin 2,150 Report post Posted March 7 I'm guessing the French Navy for this Patch! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEAKVIRGIN 1,253 Report post Posted March 7 1 minute ago, ItsuraBlack said: Hello everyone in the new update "Pansyr Guardians"! bruh already starting this ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
efetenekeci 1,841 Report post Posted March 7 More Italian Helicopters !!! Just kidding. That branch is forgotten. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefffff1871 2,448 Report post Posted March 7 Just now, __Fleks__ said: Tell your colleagues that according to the Steam version, the hamster is dead, the update is not going on search for the launcher.exe in the steam folder (Steam\steamapps\common\War Thunder), seems like the launcher gets the update Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RytisLTU1 2,578 Report post Posted March 7 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Pacifica said: And.... Hello! Ok... I guess unlocking it helps.................... Nvm, dumb me Edited March 7 by RytisLTU1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
__Fleks__ 790 Report post Posted March 7 Just now, stefffff1871 said: search for the launcher.exe in the steam folder (Steam\steamapps\common\War Thunder), seems like the launcher gets the update Yes I have, I already did it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
不是很能抗压 1,228 Report post Posted March 7 Glad to see u guys here again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKAZAQI 165 Report post Posted March 7 BAGUETTE NAVY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace_of_LuftWaffe 30 Report post Posted March 7 Hello guys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RycotSS 199 Report post Posted March 7 @TheElite96That Pvkv IV really doesn't want to leave the list huh. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsuraBlack 3 Report post Posted March 7 2 minutes ago, PEAKVIRGIN said: bruh already starting this ? Someone will do it anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Forum Moderator Pacifica 15,933 Report post Posted March 7 3 minutes ago, __Fleks__ said: Tell your colleagues that according to the Steam version, the hamster is dead, the update is not going on Should not be a too long a wait for it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
__Fleks__ 790 Report post Posted March 7 @TheElite96Please mark in the list that the next update will be about the French fleet, as BVV said on the stream Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Forum Moderator Pacifica 15,933 Report post Posted March 7 3 minutes ago, RytisLTU1 said: Nvm, dumb me yeah, and you guys will have to do the Math, I cannot see the total number removed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEAKVIRGIN 1,253 Report post Posted March 7 players will cry about pantsir anyway 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Forum Moderator Pacifica 15,933 Report post Posted March 7 1 minute ago, __Fleks__ said: @TheElite96Please mark in the list that the next update will be about the French fleet, as BVV said on the stream he will be busy today, but he will catch up on the thread when he is back around 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
__Fleks__ 790 Report post Posted March 7 1 minute ago, Pacifica said: he will be busy today, but he will catch up on the thread when he is back around Nobody rushes him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace_of_LuftWaffe 30 Report post Posted March 7 it's still not updating Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefffff1871 2,448 Report post Posted March 7 Just now, Ace_of_LuftWaffe said: it's still not updating just start the launcher.exe in the steam folder instead of waiting for steam updating it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...