TurtleDove16179 21 Report post Posted February 8 First of all, I'm not shaming anyone that do bombing run in Air RB, i do it from time to time, I'm just curious With that out of the way,AV-8A is one of my most use grinder for the US tree,in my opinion it is one of the easiest and most consistent jet fighter to get kills with, all you need to do is climb to the left to about 8000m than dive on people with your great missiles, I'm a below average player and even I can have 2+KD and 60+%WR on it, which is way better than my other jets But I noticed there are a lot of people that use it only for bombing, even up to 2000+ games of bombing, that makes me really curious 1. Why AV-8A? It don't have good bomb load and isn't fast, can't really turn fight or run your way out of trouble,so why pick AV-8A and not the other jets that have better bomb load and better speed like F-5C or F-4C? 2. is it because it is more efficient that way? If people are after pure grinding speed, should they switched to doing bombing run and not air to air? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xF4LC0NxPUNCHx 3,518 Report post Posted February 8 6 hours ago, TurtleDove16179 said: 1. Why AV-8A? It don't have good bomb load and isn't fast, can't really turn fight or run your way out of trouble,so why pick AV-8A and not the other jets that have better bomb load and better speed like F-5C or F-4C? AV-8A accelerates extremely well and can probably get to bases before anything else can. It's also at a lower BR, looks to have a higher SL modifier, and it gets a boatload of countermeasures. 7 hours ago, TurtleDove16179 said: If people are after pure grinding speed, should they switched to doing bombing run and not air to air? Many people haven't got the mental fortitude to do much more than fly straight at a base and hit the space bar. Air to air would require some form of effort. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarbageFlying 3,375 Report post Posted February 9 (edited) 7 hours ago, xF4LC0NxPUNCHx said: AV-8A accelerates extremely well and can probably get to bases before anything else can. It's also at a lower BR, looks to have a higher SL modifier, and it gets a boatload of countermeasures. You load full bombs on your AV8 you get neither missiles nor countermeasures. It takes a special kind of people to play like that. Long story short, no, it's not beneficial to base bomb with an AV8. You're at a BR where you meet plenty of planes that have no counter against the Aim9Gs you have, take those out. 2 Free kills. Overall, doing bomb runs at those BRs isnt beneficial to anything, you don't contribute to the team and end up with less points. God, people even run bomb loads in a F4E in downtiers where they can just go ham on the enemy team with their missile load because they believe this is the way to get most RP/SL There are a lot of people botting with the AV8, he's probably referring to those. They just load full bombs, bomb a base, and sacrifice themselves to go to the next game. Edited February 9 by GarbageFlying Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xF4LC0NxPUNCHx 3,518 Report post Posted February 9 12 hours ago, GarbageFlying said: You load full bombs on your AV8 you get neither missiles nor countermeasures. I learned something new today, thanks for clarifying! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerialElf 0 Report post Posted February 9 On 08/02/2023 at 02:10, TurtleDove16179 said: First of all, I'm not shaming anyone that do bombing run in Air RB, i do it from time to time, I'm just curious With that out of the way,AV-8A is one of my most use grinder for the US tree,in my opinion it is one of the easiest and most consistent jet fighter to get kills with, all you need to do is climb to the left to about 8000m than dive on people with your great missiles, I'm a below average player and even I can have 2+KD and 60+%WR on it, which is way better than my other jets But I noticed there are a lot of people that use it only for bombing, even up to 2000+ games of bombing, that makes me really curious 1. Why AV-8A? It don't have good bomb load and isn't fast, can't really turn fight or run your way out of trouble,so why pick AV-8A and not the other jets that have better bomb load and better speed like F-5C or F-4C? 2. is it because it is more efficient that way? If people are after pure grinding speed, should they switched to doing bombing run and not air to air? As a gr.1 player I feel qualified to answer this, if you go wide you can get behind the enemy team, bomb to pay for the run and then snip a couple A10s/SU25s that aren't paying attention. OR you can climb high and abuse the stupid high climb rate and dive and kill. Honestly they break about even for me and I LIKE flying low, so I do Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNDM [email protected] 779 Report post Posted February 9 6 minutes ago, SerialElf said: As a gr.1 player I feel qualified to answer this, if you go wide you can get behind the enemy team, bomb to pay for the run and then snip a couple A10s/SU25s that aren't paying attention. OR you can climb high and abuse the stupid high climb rate and dive and kill. Honestly they break about even for me and I LIKE flying low, so I do Fellow GR.1 player, here. Climbing isn't recommended due to the frequency of facing enemies with BvR. The bomb and flank strat is really the only viable one, provided you aren't uptiered with a bunch of supersonics who will ignore your base callouts and steal it. My hatred for Tornado and Kfir Canard players is eternal because of it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurtleDove16179 21 Report post Posted February 9 I can totally understand in the case of GR.1 Due to it not having RWR, radar or countermeasures,and at a higher BR At 10.0 you face jets like F-4E & JA37 that can use SARH to kill you easily But in the case of AV-8A,it have a boatload of countermeasures, don't see up tier often,only at 9.7,and 9G are better for the play style of diving on people Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlumleyBT 2,788 Report post Posted February 9 3 minutes ago, TurtleDove16179 said: I can totally understand in the case of GR.1 Due to it not having RWR, radar or countermeasures,and at a higher BR At 10.0 you face jets like F-4E & JA37 that can use SARH to kill you easily But in the case of AV-8A,it have a boatload of countermeasures, don't see up tier often,only at 9.7,and 9G are better for the play style of diving on people As someone who played the F-4C as bomb truck exclusively i can say that non-bots players may find more relaxing and easier bomb bases instead of fighting other players. I, for example, have little time to play late at night and i may be too tired to be effective at PvP, but im still in the mood to grind some air TT. Of course new players with little or zero experience find less frustrating buy a premium and bomb bases instead of learn the required skills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...