Rikers_Beard 509 Report post Posted February 7 Is the M60 TTS really any sort of upgrade over the RISE P? Stats look the same, but just sits at 9.0 while RISE P is 8.7... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Fantom2451_ 231 Report post Posted February 7 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Rikers_Beard said: Is the M60 TTS really any sort of upgrade over the RISE P? Stats look the same, but just sits at 9.0 while RISE P is 8.7... TTS has thermal and laser rangefinder Edited February 7 by _Fantom2451_ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rikers_Beard 509 Report post Posted February 7 1 minute ago, _Fantom2451_ said: TTS has thermal and laser rangefinder That's it then? Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasiasd 275 Report post Posted February 7 Laser rangefinder, Gen 1 thermal sight for the gunner and the better M774 APFSDS in addition to M735. That's really it though, and imo it's not worth the effort with much higher module RP cost and stock HEAT with barely a lineup to support it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rikers_Beard 509 Report post Posted February 7 (edited) 10 minutes ago, pasiasd said: Laser rangefinder, Gen 1 thermal sight for the gunner and the better M774 APFSDS in addition to M735. That's really it though, and imo it's not worth the effort with much higher module RP cost and stock HEAT with barely a lineup to support it. Yeah, I agree that doesn't sound like enough for me to buy it and crew it. I already have miserable matches in my close to spaded RISE P I'm not going to make it even worse at an even higher BR. Thanks for the info. Edited February 7 by Rikers_Beard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unkle_Rukkus 4,087 Report post Posted February 7 I use the TTS in my 9.3 lineup. It's my 3rd MBT choice behind the XM-1 and MBT-70. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeNameColdWar 811 Report post Posted February 7 Supportly FCS and thermal should be a huge step forward. (though not a full FCS just laser range finder which automatically adjust your cannon on to target) About APFSDS . Some community did push M774 and M833 for both M60A1 Rise P and M60A3 TTS (M60A1 Rise P use M833 in Gulf War) . But you know how slow Gaijin is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrypTanko 262 Report post Posted February 10 On 07/02/2023 at 14:58, CodeNameColdWar said: Supportly FCS and thermal should be a huge step forward. (though not a full FCS just laser range finder which automatically adjust your cannon on to target) About APFSDS . Some community did push M774 and M833 for both M60A1 Rise P and M60A3 TTS (M60A1 Rise P use M833 in Gulf War) . But you know how slow Gaijin is. I've been pushing for wider implementation of M833 for a while since it is just under the performance of DM33 by about 12mm~ of armor penetration and literally everything that germany has at 8.7+ has a minimum of DM33 for ammo. in some cases DM63. other nations are similar with DM33 and 63 being quite normal, but they hamstring the US with obsolete ammo in tanks that used much better rounds 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
[email protected] 13,028 Report post Posted February 10 (edited) It’s a consistent trend across the US tree. Gaijin has hamstrung many US tanks with either ammo access, ammo performance or both. Edited February 10 by [email protected] 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlayerMkX 9,886 Report post Posted February 10 5 hours ago, [email protected] said: It’s a consistent trend across the US tree. Gaijin has hamstrung many US tanks with either ammo access, ammo performance or both. Or if they do one thing slightly better than either Russia or Germany, they get sent to a BR where that advantage doesn't matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddPhenomena 960 Report post Posted February 11 7 hours ago, KrypTanko said: I've been pushing for wider implementation of M833 for a while since it is just under the performance of DM33 by about 12mm~ of armor penetration and literally everything that germany has at 8.7+ has a minimum of DM33 for ammo. in some cases DM63. other nations are similar with DM33 and 63 being quite normal, but they hamstring the US with obsolete ammo in tanks that used much better rounds What gets me is that compared to the Leopard 1A5 at 9.0, the M60A3 TTS really has no major advantages. It's slower, its armor doesn't help it since everyone and their mother is firing APFSDS, its top round really is nothing that special compared to DM33 or even DM63 at 9.0, and the worst part for me anyways, it's an end of the line vehicle, so you're researching modules in the tens of thousands of RP for a vehicle that isn't all that spectacular. I really just hope they add the M60AX, M60A3 SLEP, and M60-2000 down the line, then at least the M60 line will be somewhat worth researching. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrypTanko 262 Report post Posted February 11 (edited) 1 hour ago, OddPhenomena said: What gets me is that compared to the Leopard 1A5 at 9.0, the M60A3 TTS really has no major advantages. It's slower, its armor doesn't help it since everyone and their mother is firing APFSDS, its top round really is nothing that special compared to DM33 or even DM63 at 9.0, and the worst part for me anyways, it's an end of the line vehicle, so you're researching modules in the tens of thousands of RP for a vehicle that isn't all that spectacular. I really just hope they add the M60AX, M60A3 SLEP, and M60-2000 down the line, then at least the M60 line will be somewhat worth researching. yeah, literally every nation has a DM33 or 63 equivalent at 9.0, except france and the US, but at least france has mobility. the US just gets screwed ammo wise. Edited February 11 by KrypTanko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
__Renzo__ 2,255 Report post Posted February 15 On 11/02/2023 at 02:55, KrypTanko said: yeah, literally every nation has a DM33 or 63 equivalent at 9.0, except france and the US, but at least france has mobility. the US just gets screwed ammo wise. The Magach 6C is litterally a M60A3 TTS with better ERA coverage and a DM33 equivalent at 9.0. Yet the M60A3 TTS can't have M833 at 9.0. Let that sink in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana 159 Report post Posted February 16 M60A3 just needs proper gunsights, with 2.6/8 FOV. But seeing that it's been reported 3 years ago, and nothing has happened, it's a no go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
