Silver lion problem

[R3ivikThePatriot 2]

So basically i cant afford to buy new planes, can anyone gimme any tips because im really broke, like tips on how to get sl fast and stuff, i have watched YT videos but they dont seem to help.

 

[Schindibee 2,856]

Simply speaking - but actually pretty trivial as a tip - is to find a playstyle (or vehicle) that suits you well and where you seem to profit best.

 

For me for example, playing US BlueWater Fleet is almost a garant for good SL income in short time (the Atlanta is a beast!). I basically only play this when the battery of my VR set is empty and needs to be recharged, and I want to generate some quick cash in the meantime...

 

Premium time and premium vehicles help a lot there too of course (but may be impossible depending on what funds one has available or is willing to spend), but also with tech tree vehicles one can get good income if the vehicle(s) suits oneselves.

 

In the tree you show up there, I myself did my best earnings probably with the B-25 variants: Good bombers/Groundpounders with good defensive firepower, yet (iirc) quite modest operating costs... But then, I'm someone liking to fly attackers and bombers, thus do quite ok with this playstyle. Someone else may struggle with it and excell somewhere else. And that was a few years ago ,and I haven't touched the B-25's in a long time...

 

 

[asopuma 64]

53 minutes ago, Schindibee said:

premium vehicles help a lot there too of course (but may be impossible depending on what funds one has available or is willing to spend),

Free BP Premium can help earning SL and RP.

[[email protected] 1,771]

I see you have auto-repair turned off, that's excellent, it's just a useless drain on SL.

 

The next thing that jumps out at me is although you have a fair number of planes unlocked, none of them are spaded (max upgraded). Spading vehicles a good way to gain RP, as each completed row of modifications gives an RP bonus, plus every vehicle comes with ten free repairs; at lower tiers like this you'll often spade vehicles with free repairs to spare, which means in those remaining matches you won't be paying for either mods or repairs at all. I highly recommend using up all ten free repairs for all, or at least most of your unlocked vehicles.

 

And as has been mentioned, if you're at all interested in ships, Naval (especially RB) gives the best SL rewards of any mode (just as Air RB is the best for RP).

Edited February 3 by [email protected]

[xF4LC0NxPUNCHx 3,589]

2 hours ago, Schindibee said:

Premium time and premium vehicles help a lot there too of course

 

Not necessary

 

1 hour ago, [email protected] said:

I see you have auto-repair turned off, that's excellent

 

Nope, also not necessary

 

Looks like you're playing Arcade mode, I haven't played that in such a long time, I can't comment on the earnings in that.

 

However, take one of the good planes you've already got, such as the P-51C, P-63A-5, F4U USMC into an Air RB match. Focus on doing things that will help your team win as the over all SL reward in a winning match is way higher. Focus on enemy aircraft first. When close to the end of battle and there isn't much air to air fighting going on and you can afford to groundpound, start strafing ground targets. Don't go shooting ground targets immediately at match begin, you'll just get focused and shot down.

 

You should be able to clear 10,000-20,000SL profit per match easily.

[SKurj 231]

if you don't mind playing bluewater naval, the earnings are much better there for SL in my experience

[anyuser 5,127]

3 hours ago, R3ivikThePatriot said:

So basically i cant afford to buy new planes, can anyone gimme any tips because im really broke, like tips on how to get sl fast and stuff, i have watched YT videos but they dont seem to help.

The problem with WT is, the own income is strongly influenced with your own success in battles and what you did in those battles.

 

For example basebombing yields a lot of XP, but the SL gain is low.

Killing many groundtargets on the other hand gives a lot of SL, but fewer XP. (many is the word here)

Killing enemy planes is the most balanced, but when you die more often then you actually kill an enemy - where should the money come from. 

And the same can be said about tanks. You need to kill stuff to earn money and if you loose to much stuff you bill might be to high.

 

In addition we get payed for how much of the battle we are active. So if you leave the battle before it is "over", because you lost all planes, you get payed less.

 

There are modes where the income in SL can be higher. Like the Blue Water naval, that was mentioned.

But even there, your own success equals your income.

 

 

The best advice is to find some people who are willing to see where you hit the wall running and help you to get better. 

The only other option is staying at a place of the tree where you do well and just advance, when you can be in the upper third of your team at the end of the battle on a regular base. If you advance to fast you try to punch to high above your weight class.

[R3ivikThePatriot 2]

Should i start a new account?I

[Dodo_Dud 5,074]

16 hours ago, R3ivikThePatriot said:

Should i start a new account?I

 

When my credit card runs dry, I open a new accout too. Life is easy!

 

(Seriously, what good should that do?)

Edited February 4 by Dodo_Dud

[xF4LC0NxPUNCHx 3,589]

1 hour ago, anyuser said:

The problem with WT is, the own income is strongly influenced with your own success in battles and what you did in those battles.

 

Excuse me, but how can that be considered a problem???

[_Mr_Fahrenheit_ 214]

28 minutes ago, R3ivikThePatriot said:

Should i start a new account?I

No, why? Just change your play style, and don't be in a rush to unlock every plane/tank/helicopter/ship until you get some SL built up.

 

Find a lineup, and just work it for a while until you get comfortable with the game. You'll find out that once you figure out your style of gameplay, you can reliable gain positive SL each game whether or not you win or lose. 

 

Once you have a some decent SL banked and you're continuing to make positive SL per match, then move up. But just realize the higher you go the more it costs to purchase, crew and repair vehicles.

[R3ivikThePatriot 2]

1 minute ago, _Mr_Fahrenheit_ said:

No, why? Just change your play style, and don't be in a rush to unlock every plane/tank/helicopter/ship until you get some SL built up.

 

Find a lineup, and just work it for a while until you get comfortable with the game. You'll find out that once you figure out your style of gameplay, you can reliable gain positive SL each game whether or not you win or lose. 

 

Once you have a some decent SL banked and you're continuing to make positive SL per match, then move up. But just realize the higher you go the more it costs to purchase, crew and repair vehicles.

K, but, when i find my style i will keep unlocking planes that cost even more and more SL and eventually idk if i can purchase stuff

[_Mr_Fahrenheit_ 214]

 

[DerLachendeMann 497]

If you're not (yet) into naval air battles are probably better than ground for making SL.

 

Play AB air, get a coherent lineup (like that tank lineup, looks pretty ok..) and try to play to win, towards the main objective : air domination is strictly killing planes, domination is about capping airfields, keeping the opponent from capping and, depending on map, attacking ground targets. Ground attack : attack these ground units, maybe bomb bases (except on frontline maps) and shoot down planes that are trying to keep you from attacking ground targets. Especially with US your fighters actually work very well as fighter bombers. Be aggressive, every action pays out, if you just idle above the action, trying to preserve your plane, you won't make many SL.

 

Try to get good enough to finish wagers and orders, lots of SL in these...

 

If you want to get anywhere beyond tier 4 I highly recommend premium time, once you're able to do battlepasses I recommend getting one, keeping the vehicles and getting free BP ever after, for the coupons that you won't need to sell your vehicles since you kept them, and get some premium vehicles from warbonds. Minimum financial investment for maximum benefit, though you'll need to invest some time at least.

 

Don't rush to always buy the latest unlocked vehicle right away, especially if you don't even have a lineup to fit it in.. and if you really want to save SL, twice a year or so you can get vehicles at 50% SL discount (might even be 3 times/ year, not actually sure). Play your current lineups a lot, train your crews, expert your crews and grind ace crews for free, it just costs quite a lot of time, but crew skills do help.

 

My personal rating for making SL is naval AB, air AB, ground AB, and after that RB. I hear sim pays out well, couldn't say since I don't really play sim.

 

To show you that I kinda know what I'm talking about :

Edited February 3 by DerLachendeMann

[Josephs_Piano 7,019]

2 hours ago, R3ivikThePatriot said:

K, but, when i find my style i will keep unlocking planes that cost even more and more SL and eventually idk if i can purchase stuff

 

So stop unlocking new planes and start improving the ones you already have, starting at he lowest level.

Low level Air AB is a money maker when you do this.

[T0NKA 95]

2 hours ago, R3ivikThePatriot said:

K, but, when i find my style i will keep unlocking planes that cost even more and more SL and eventually idk if i can purchase stuff

you don’t have to buy them. I had like 3 million in tanks waiting to be bought at one point and when Gaijin did a 50% off I think in the summer I bought them from 1.5M. 
 

Look at the SL multiplier for each vehicle and use something that generates a lot. The game is designed to earn money so buying premium time and vehicles earn a lot more. Boosters also help. As an example, a single PvE battle with a Ka-50 with a booster netted me 300k SL. Couple hours and I had millions. 
 

Without premium, boosters or the vehicles it can be hard. Even with all that you can run out of money and need to do some planning in the higher ranks. 

Edited February 3 by T0NKA

[DerLachendeMann 497]

38 minutes ago, Josephs_Piano said:

 

So stop unlocking new planes and start improving the ones you already have, starting at he lowest level.

Low level Air AB is a money maker when you do this.

You can't really stop unlocking vehicles, but you can greatly influence how many SL you make in the process, e.g. I researched the F-16A ADF essentially with BR 4.0 planes (I did a few games in F-14 when it was a pages of history task plane), doing quite a few thunderer wagers. Research wasn't fast, but SL rewards were massive, and since I don't really need that plane I haven't even bought it yet.

[R3ivikThePatriot 2]

1 hour ago, Josephs_Piano said:

 

So stop unlocking new planes and start improving the ones you already have, starting at he lowest level.

Low level Air AB is a money maker when you do this.

So basically play like br 1.0?

[DerLachendeMann 497]

36 minutes ago, R3ivikThePatriot said:

So basically play like br 1.0?

You could play a solid BR 30. lineup, with your current planes I wouldn't go much higher than that.

 

1.0 is too low, that's reserves for when you really have no SL whatsoever to even repair, if you ever get that low.

 

Or play 2.0, currently I'm having lots of fun with my french P-40 downtiered to 2.0, if you're not uptiered you can get very good games

[Miraz05 232]

Dont buy vehicles that you wont play.You can try to get the battlepass premium vehicles if you have financial issues.Those can help you earn SL.

Wagers such as 'Unstoppable' are quite easy to complete,they can give you a lot of SL.

14 hours ago, R3ivikThePatriot said:

Should i start a new account?I

No,dont do that

Edited February 4 by Miraz05

[anyuser 5,127]

22 hours ago, xF4LC0NxPUNCHx said:

 

Excuse me, but how can that be considered a problem???

The "problem" for people like the OP  

 

22 hours ago, R3ivikThePatriot said:

K, but, when i find my style i will keep unlocking planes that cost even more and more SL and eventually idk if i can purchase stuff

You will keep researching planes.

It does not mean that you have to buy anything you researched the moment you did.

 

On your screenshoot I don't see a single full spaded plane (all modules researched).

You just run through the tree, thinking it will get better when i got the next one.

 

It does not, because in Warthunder climbing the tree will make you meet even better players.

 

The US tree is able to set up good 6 plane Linups with Fighters, Strike Crafts and Bombers, that are all good at their BR, for BR 2, 2.3, 2.7 and 3.

There are so many undertired planes in the US tree, that you just have to fly to their strengh. Stuff like the F4U1(a) or even more undertired the P-38E/G (those came from 3.7 and for me they did well there...).

A20G and B-34 are among the best attack planes of their BR and they not only got offensive weapons to make good heavy fighters (and the flightperformance they need for this) but they got a strong defense too.

 

Sure, for some planes (the ones without API in the belts) the ammo selection is not that good. So you have to rely on default or stealth ammo. But those still got plenty of guns and ammo. And if you can reliable kill with those, you can do it with everything.

 

23 hours ago, R3ivikThePatriot said:

Should i start a new account?I

Because of?

You can start to play with every nation for every military arm for every already researched BR on your current account.

What would you get from starting over?

Edited February 4 by anyuser

[R3ivikThePatriot 2]

question #2 can i grind swedish planes while grinding the us ones?

[DerLachendeMann 497]

48 minutes ago, R3ivikThePatriot said:

question #2 can i grind swedish planes while grinding the us ones?

The more nations you play the longer you can leave a lineup alone and let it autorepair.

[R3ivikThePatriot 2]

2 minutes ago, DerLachendeMann said:

The more nations you play the longer you can leave a lineup alone and let it autorepair.

U sure i wont go completely bankrupt of SL?

[Gruminator 595]

take a few steps back and play lower BRs.

One of the big dangers in WT is when people are to busy climbing the BR ladder (looking at you, new players in a Tiger)

Take it easy and the SL problems might not be as bad.

But i know the new shineys is sooo tempting.

Take it slow is my best advice.