Posted March 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Senior Forum Moderator TheElite96 5,773 Report post Posted December 19, 2022 WELCOME to the War Thunder - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion Thread! Here you can discuss everything related to the upcoming major update, including rumors, data mines, and dev blogs. However, please AVOID these types of discussions: Wishing for things. Some examples: "I want the F-22 next update!" "Gaijin where are these vehicles!!!" <lists 10 vehicles they want in the game> There's a separate thread for this here. Vehicle spec discussions, such as armour, ammo, ordnance, guns, data sheets, performance. Some examples: "I hope for these vehicles, they will balance the game. They have XYZ ordnance and will counter the !" 2 page discussions about what type of ammo a new tank in a dev blog will get. Now this is fine for the most part since a vehicle in the dev blog is part of the next update, however it can escalate into completely other discussions so do be careful! There's plenty of threads for these discussions here. Bug reports, issues, suggestions, feedback for dev-server or testing. Some examples: "Abrams is missing its thermals. However that's not meant to be as it had this historically. Smin fix this!!!" "I think that Challenger 3 would be a good addition to British Ground tree, here are the specs for it" "This thing is bugged on the dev server, devs please fix it!" You can make a bug report here and suggestion here. When the dev server is up, use the DEV Server Section for feedback. Not avoiding these example discussions will mean your post is likely to be hidden by a moderator. Any continuation after that might mean you get a warning. You must remember that this is the most popular and active thread on the forum. Its aim is to put all of the next update's information in one place so it can be discussed amongst the community. Other discussions like outlined in the examples above can be discussed in proper forum sections. Often official Gaijin members will respond on this thread so do be sure to remain respectful! Otherwise they may just stop. Please also remember that everyone is entitled to their own opinions on what may be coming. If you follow the forum rules, you'll be okay! Please use the Apex Predators Thread to discuss Major Update "Apex Predators". Complaining here won't solve anything and is considered off-topic. FAQ Q: What is this thread about? A: This thread is about the upcoming major update and future content. Q: Will you add...? A: No. We are not developers, just nosy players. Q: Why isn't [vehicle] on the list? A: Either because there is no evidence that this vehicle will be added, or because no one told me that there is such evidence. Q: Why is [vehicle/feature] on the Denied list? A: Because said feature or vehicle was denied by Gaijin developers or their representatives at some point in the past. Q: Where did my post go? A: Off-Topic comments will often be hidden (not deleted) to keep this thread readable and on topic. No need to be alarmed or comment on the disappearing post(s), if concerned then PM Forum Moderators or Seniors. Q: When will we get the patch? A: Currently our best guess is sometime in February or March 2023. Q: What if I don't want to read all these pages to find out what will come? A: Read the OP. I and other moderators will frequently update it with new information. List of stuff related to next update, what we know so far: This is the list of stuff we know has been confirmed, plausible, denied and also data mine related stuff to the next update. If you think something is missing from this list, please tag @TheElite96 in a reply, or send a private message. First off, big image leak: https://imgur.com/a/5vuy8M5 Likely Spoiler empty Plausible Spoiler empty General overview of stuff collected over the last few updates, updated regularly: Stuff that has been confirmed officially by Gaijin will have " Confirmed: " in front of it. Aircraft: Spoiler Aircraft general Various aircraft model assets (some already added) - Source 1 / Source 2 United States A-20A (1942) - Source (note: old asset) A-4M - Source 1 / Source 2 F2G-2 - Source 1 / Source 2 P-35A - Source 1 / Source 2 YF2L-1 - Source 1 / Source 2 PV-2 (CDK finds) - Source PBM-5a (data finds, removed from files since) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 F-8A Crusader - Source F-89J - Source 1 / Source 2 F-89C (30 mm) - Source F-89C (Rockets) - Source J2M3 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) P-66 - Source 1 / Source 2 A-35B - Source 1 / Source 2 F6F-3 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: the F6F-5 came instead, unused since then) PBJ-1J-1 - Source 1 / Source 2 PV-2 - Source 1 / Source 2 SB2C-5 - Source 1 / Source 2 TBD-1 (1937) - Source 1 / Source 2 F-82G - Source tech tree picture picture found in the files Germany B-17 G - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) MiG-3 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) Mosquito FB Mk. VI - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) P-39Q-5 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) P-51B - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) Pe-2-359 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) Bf 110C-4 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: the C-7 came in its stead in 1.79, unused since then) H-75A-2 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 H-75A-4 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 B-24D - Source tech tree picture picture found in the files IL-4 - Source tech tree picture picture found in the files P-38G - Source tech tree picture picture found in the files P-51D-5 - Source tech tree picture picture found in the files Typhoon Mk. Ib - Source tech tree picture picture found in the files Typhoon Mk. Ib/late - Source tech tree picture picture found in the files Russia / Soviet MDR-6 - Source 1 / Source 2 P-47D-22 - Source 1 / Source 2 BI-6 - Source I250 - Source La-7r - Source MiG-19S (CDK find) - Source DI-6 - Source IL-20 - Source Yak-25 - Source I-215 - Source VI-100 - Source R-10 - Source Tu-12 - Source PBY-5 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) DB-3A - Source 1 / Source 2 Gudkov K-37 - Source 1 / Source 2 I-16 Type 17 - Source 1 / Source 2 LaGG-3-1 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) LaGG-3-29 - Source 1 / Source 2 MiG-15bis (NS-23) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 SB-2M-100a (Spain) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 MiG-3U - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files Great Britain Confirmed: Tornado ADV - Source 1 / Source 2 Baltimore Mk. V - Source Spitfire HF. Mk. VII - Source 1 / Source 2 Swift F. 2 - Source 1 / Source 2 Spitfire IX If c (data finds, removed from files since) - Source 1 / Source 2 Lincoln B Mk I (data finds) - Source 1 / Source 2 Whirlwind Mk II - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 Early Seafires - Source (Some variants mentioned here have been added) Maryland Mk I (data finds) - Source 1 / Source 2 Shackleton MR.Mk 1 (data finds) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 Welkin Mk.I (data finds, removed from files since) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 Welkin Mk.I late (data finds, removed from files since) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 Bf 109F-4 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) Boston Mk. II - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) J2M3 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) Catalina Mk. I - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) Catalina Mk. I RAAF - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) Hurricane Mk. I - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: the Hurricane Mk. I/late came in its stead, unused since the n) Mustang Mk. IA (p_51_mk1a) - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: the current one uses the p_51b model) H-75A-4 (Mohawk IV) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 Havoc Mk. I Pandora - Source 1 / Source 2 Intruder Mk. II - Source 1 / Source 2 Mustang Mk. I - Source 1 / Source 2 Japan J5N1 (late) - Source 1 / Source 2 J5N2 - Source Ki-64 - Source Ki-74 - Source Ki-88 - Source H8K1 - Source H8K4 - Source LaGG-3-8 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) Ki-45 ko tei - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 Ki-45 hei tei - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 G4M1 pre-1943 G5N2 - Source G8N2 - Source 1 / Source 2 Ki-43-III ko - Source 1 / Source 2 Removal of R2Y2s Planned - Source China Q5D - Source 1 / Source 2 Chinese P-36 found in CDK - Source H-75A-5 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 H-75M - Source 1 / Source 2 A6M5 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 B-17 - Source 1 / Source 2 La-7 - Source 1 / Source 2 Pe-2-359 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 P-26A-35 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 MiG-15bis (NS-23) - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files SB-2 (M-103U) (MV-3) - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files Italy Baltimore Mk. V - Source Bf 110C-3 - Source 1 / Source 2 D.520 - Source 1 / Source 2 Re.2000 G.A. Red 5 - Source France Baltimore Mk. V - Source M.B.151-C1 - Source SNCAO 200 - Source 1 / Source 2 H-75A-1 (1939) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 H-75A-2 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 H-75A-3 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files H-75A-3 (Vichy) - Source 1 / Source 2 Sweden Potential Swedish air tree candidates (pure guess work), Finnish ones, found in files - Source Pe-3bis - Source 1 / Source 2 H-75A-1 (Finland) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 H-75A-3 (Finland) - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files H-75A-4 (Finland) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 H-75A-6 (Finland) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files Israel empty Other aircraft The Netherlands: B-25J-30 - Source 1 / Source 2 H-75A-7 (NL) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files H-75N (Thai) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files Ground forces: Spoiler Ground forces general Regenerative steering - Source Time fused shells - Source 1 / Source 2 Damage model of wheeled vehicles for damage to suspension and wheels - Source Single player ground campaign in the works - Source New Japan map - Source United States T54E2 - Source 1 / Source 2 M4A4 (data finds) - Source 1 / Source 2 M3A3 (data finds) - Source M103A2 (possible) - Source Germany Leopard 1M - Source Pz.Kpfw. 38 NA - Source 1 / Source 2 Pz.Kpfw. IV E (H.A.) - Source SPz 12-3 (Typ 3Z 8DLa) - Source Pz.35t Romania Mare premium (CDK and data finds) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 East-German T-72M1 is possible - Source Russia / Soviet 2S1 - Source BMD-4M - Source BMP-23 (BG) - Source GAZ-75 - Source 1 / Source 2 M-55S (SLO) - Source Object 140 - Source Pantsir-S1 - Source BA-3 - Source BA-6 - Source More armoured cars - Source PT-76 - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files T-90M (CDK finds) - Source Great Britain Olifant Mk. 1B - Source Rooikat ZA HVM - Source 1 / Source 2 //note: won't come due to only reaching mockup stage Vickers Mk. 11 - Source Cruiser Tank, Ram II - Source 1 / Source 2 Japan Ho-Ni II - Source China ZTS63 (1980) - Source ZTZ88B - Source Wan Cheng 2 - Source Confirmed: ZTS63A - Source Confirmed: Type 79 - Source Confirmed: PGZ88 - Source Confirmed: Sd Kfz 222 - Source Confirmed: Type 59-II - Source BT-5 - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files Ha-Go - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files T-34-85 (D-5T) - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files Italy Turán I (HUN) - Source Turán III (HUN) - Source Zrínyi I (HUN) - Source Zrínyi II (HUN) - Source 75/34 M43 with BREDA 8mm MG's on top - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 / Source 5 Plans to add more ground vehicles between 4.3 - 6.0 - Source France AMD 35 (SA 35) - Source AMD 35 (Kw.K. 39) - Source AMX 10 ACRA - Source AMX-50 1950 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 / Source 5 Citroën-Kégresse P19T - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 Sweden Strv 122B+ - Source Str v 74 (Rb 52) - Source Israel empty Naval: Spoiler Naval general New naval game modes - Source Texture updates for PT boats' 37mm M4. - Source tt_tta53_50_533mm for Riga class frigates. turret_127mm_mk32 is a slightly more modern 5 inch side arm for U.S. cruisers. - (Source) turret_130mm_bl109a_twin and turret_305mm_sm31_triple? - used on "Stalingrad" class Heavy Cruiser(Source) United States Indianapolis - Source Germany Gneisenau - Source Nassau - Source Tirpitz - Source Russia / Soviet Stalingrad - Source Oktyabrskaya Revolutsiya - Source "9M39 Igla on MPK pr.12412 currently WIP, to receive feature in a future update" Great Britain Fairmile D (601) ("bigcaptain") - Source Fairmile D (617) ("bigcaptain") - Source Renown - Source Japan Ise - Source Yamashiro - Source Yamato - Source China Confirmed: Plans for the Chinese navy - Source Italy MS74 Serie 2a (Torpedoboat) - Source Sparviero (P 420) (art) - Source France French navy is being worked on - Source Sweden empty Helicopters: Spoiler General helicopters empty United States AH-6M - Source 1 / Source 2 AH-56A - Source 1 / Source 2 Germany H145M - Source 1 / Source 2 Russia / Soviet Mi-4V (CZ) - Source Great Britain Wessex HU. Mk. 5 - Source 1 / Source 2 Confirmed: Plans to develop the British helicopter research tree - Source Confirmed: Considering more helicopters, specifically the Westland Wessex - Source Japan empty China empty Italy Plans to expand Italian helicopters tree - source France empty Sweden Hkp9A (CB-3) - Source Israel empty Other helicopters Mi-24 Superhind not excluded as a possibility - Source Submarines: Spoiler General submarines Submarines unclear - Q&A so far said either "not now" or "not yet". Submarines might come eventually since they were in April Fools 2018. Submarines might be in the works due to this evidence: - Source 1 / Source 2 Other: Spoiler Other general Cluster bombs coming at some stage - Source Battle of Nijmegen WWM map - Source Amazonas map - Source Far East naval map - Source Flat Fulda ground map - Source Kamenka Quarry map - Source Kharkov ground map - Source Krymsk V2 ground map - Source Leningrad map - Source Messina ground map - Source North Port ground map - Source Norway Fjords ground map - Source Pacific naval map - Source River naval map - Source Siegfried line ground map - Source Nations & Sub Trees More sub trees coming, no details on release time - Source Poland may be in the works, but no specific plans - Source Hungarian sub tree for Italy - Source 1 / Source 2 Unclear: Spoiler General unclear OV-10A unclear - being worked on by Nova, it's a possible candidate. Please remember to keep on-topic and respect each other. Thanks! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Senior Forum Moderator TheElite96 5,773 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 Opened Please be advised that the list on the OP will be updated tomorrow. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Draco_Argentum 1,493 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) And now we're here to do it all again. So since I predicted the Finnish subtree and MiG-29 and F-16 (see here) and correlation equals causation here are my predictions for the next two patches. Ejection seats Either the F-111B or the CA-15 Kangaroo. Edited December 20, 2022 by Draco_Argentum 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Stephensan 1,221 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 Ok, time to complain, where is the Smin Voice Mod Pack For Naval??? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Fireraid233 4,099 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 Next one will be interesting... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Falaxion 27 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Patriot_Alffy69 65 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 Where f-35 tho??? /s 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... [email protected] 1,206 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 Hmm, no Gepard 1A2 in the Changelog Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Bringer_Of_War 864 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 Wonder what the cool things will be in this one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Draco_Argentum 1,493 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 New packs are available btw https://store.gaijin.net/story.php?title=Saab-J35XS-Pack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Stephensan 1,221 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 "the mods have been real quite since the release" what they hiding 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... AUSChalkWarrior 212 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 F-15 Eagle and F/A-18 hornet! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Sea_Kelp 243 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 Plz gib drop tanks for other planes too! And RB EC mode 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... The_29er 652 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 https://store.gaijin.net/story.php?title=F-104S-TAF-Pack Mentions of flares are gone now... hmmm did they remove them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... [email protected] 181 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 Hello again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... SuTa_basuto 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 Waiting... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... bananomet 414 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Sea_Kelp said: Plz gib drop tanks for other planes too! And RB EC mode →AIR RB EC +1← By ze way, in the devnotes for the update there is a mention of Ta-152C1 FM changes, but AFAIK there is no C1 version in the game. So is it for the C3 or H1? Edited December 20, 2022 by bananomet 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... [email protected] 332 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, CrystalMethDave said: F-15 Eagle and F/A-18 hornet! @CrystalMethDave nah they are obviously hiding the su-24 and su-27. If not they are probably preparing to mess with naval again somehow(wouldn’t be surprised if they threw the Yamato in at this point after the whole existence of the Kronshtadt) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Volxar 417 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 r27Ts nerfed even further, r73s removed yet f16s get 7Ms, great.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... [email protected] 297 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 24 minutes ago, [email protected] said: Hmm, no Gepard 1A2 in the Changelog I hope it does not end up as an event or something like that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... SPANISH_AVENGER 11,346 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Volxar said: r27Ts nerfed even further Corrected* 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... joze5 43 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 Ahem… Just leave this here 7 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... [email protected] 181 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Volxar said: r27Ts nerfed even further, r73s removed yet f16s get 7Ms, great.. 7Ms?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... AUSChalkWarrior 212 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Volxar said: r27Ts nerfed even further, r73s removed yet f16s get 7Ms, great.. given the correct seeker instead of their time travelling 1997 seeker, yes 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... SXTREME 1,247 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Volxar said: r27Ts nerfed even further Boo hoo, no more 2 free kills per match. 1 2 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Feb 23 Smin1080p changed the title to Major Update "Sky Guardians"- Rumor Round-Up and Discussion Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next Page 1 of 459 This topic is now closed to further replies. Share More sharing options... Followers 70
Senior Forum Moderator TheElite96 5,773 Report post Posted December 19, 2022 WELCOME to the War Thunder - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion Thread! Here you can discuss everything related to the upcoming major update, including rumors, data mines, and dev blogs. However, please AVOID these types of discussions: Wishing for things. Some examples: "I want the F-22 next update!" "Gaijin where are these vehicles!!!" <lists 10 vehicles they want in the game> There's a separate thread for this here. Vehicle spec discussions, such as armour, ammo, ordnance, guns, data sheets, performance. Some examples: "I hope for these vehicles, they will balance the game. They have XYZ ordnance and will counter the !" 2 page discussions about what type of ammo a new tank in a dev blog will get. Now this is fine for the most part since a vehicle in the dev blog is part of the next update, however it can escalate into completely other discussions so do be careful! There's plenty of threads for these discussions here. Bug reports, issues, suggestions, feedback for dev-server or testing. Some examples: "Abrams is missing its thermals. However that's not meant to be as it had this historically. Smin fix this!!!" "I think that Challenger 3 would be a good addition to British Ground tree, here are the specs for it" "This thing is bugged on the dev server, devs please fix it!" You can make a bug report here and suggestion here. When the dev server is up, use the DEV Server Section for feedback. Not avoiding these example discussions will mean your post is likely to be hidden by a moderator. Any continuation after that might mean you get a warning. You must remember that this is the most popular and active thread on the forum. Its aim is to put all of the next update's information in one place so it can be discussed amongst the community. Other discussions like outlined in the examples above can be discussed in proper forum sections. Often official Gaijin members will respond on this thread so do be sure to remain respectful! Otherwise they may just stop. Please also remember that everyone is entitled to their own opinions on what may be coming. If you follow the forum rules, you'll be okay! Please use the Apex Predators Thread to discuss Major Update "Apex Predators". Complaining here won't solve anything and is considered off-topic. FAQ Q: What is this thread about? A: This thread is about the upcoming major update and future content. Q: Will you add...? A: No. We are not developers, just nosy players. Q: Why isn't [vehicle] on the list? A: Either because there is no evidence that this vehicle will be added, or because no one told me that there is such evidence. Q: Why is [vehicle/feature] on the Denied list? A: Because said feature or vehicle was denied by Gaijin developers or their representatives at some point in the past. Q: Where did my post go? A: Off-Topic comments will often be hidden (not deleted) to keep this thread readable and on topic. No need to be alarmed or comment on the disappearing post(s), if concerned then PM Forum Moderators or Seniors. Q: When will we get the patch? A: Currently our best guess is sometime in February or March 2023. Q: What if I don't want to read all these pages to find out what will come? A: Read the OP. I and other moderators will frequently update it with new information. List of stuff related to next update, what we know so far: This is the list of stuff we know has been confirmed, plausible, denied and also data mine related stuff to the next update. If you think something is missing from this list, please tag @TheElite96 in a reply, or send a private message. First off, big image leak: https://imgur.com/a/5vuy8M5 Likely Spoiler empty Plausible Spoiler empty General overview of stuff collected over the last few updates, updated regularly: Stuff that has been confirmed officially by Gaijin will have " Confirmed: " in front of it. Aircraft: Spoiler Aircraft general Various aircraft model assets (some already added) - Source 1 / Source 2 United States A-20A (1942) - Source (note: old asset) A-4M - Source 1 / Source 2 F2G-2 - Source 1 / Source 2 P-35A - Source 1 / Source 2 YF2L-1 - Source 1 / Source 2 PV-2 (CDK finds) - Source PBM-5a (data finds, removed from files since) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 F-8A Crusader - Source F-89J - Source 1 / Source 2 F-89C (30 mm) - Source F-89C (Rockets) - Source J2M3 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) P-66 - Source 1 / Source 2 A-35B - Source 1 / Source 2 F6F-3 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: the F6F-5 came instead, unused since then) PBJ-1J-1 - Source 1 / Source 2 PV-2 - Source 1 / Source 2 SB2C-5 - Source 1 / Source 2 TBD-1 (1937) - Source 1 / Source 2 F-82G - Source tech tree picture picture found in the files Germany B-17 G - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) MiG-3 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) Mosquito FB Mk. VI - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) P-39Q-5 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) P-51B - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) Pe-2-359 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) Bf 110C-4 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: the C-7 came in its stead in 1.79, unused since then) H-75A-2 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 H-75A-4 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 B-24D - Source tech tree picture picture found in the files IL-4 - Source tech tree picture picture found in the files P-38G - Source tech tree picture picture found in the files P-51D-5 - Source tech tree picture picture found in the files Typhoon Mk. Ib - Source tech tree picture picture found in the files Typhoon Mk. Ib/late - Source tech tree picture picture found in the files Russia / Soviet MDR-6 - Source 1 / Source 2 P-47D-22 - Source 1 / Source 2 BI-6 - Source I250 - Source La-7r - Source MiG-19S (CDK find) - Source DI-6 - Source IL-20 - Source Yak-25 - Source I-215 - Source VI-100 - Source R-10 - Source Tu-12 - Source PBY-5 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) DB-3A - Source 1 / Source 2 Gudkov K-37 - Source 1 / Source 2 I-16 Type 17 - Source 1 / Source 2 LaGG-3-1 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) LaGG-3-29 - Source 1 / Source 2 MiG-15bis (NS-23) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 SB-2M-100a (Spain) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 MiG-3U - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files Great Britain Confirmed: Tornado ADV - Source 1 / Source 2 Baltimore Mk. V - Source Spitfire HF. Mk. VII - Source 1 / Source 2 Swift F. 2 - Source 1 / Source 2 Spitfire IX If c (data finds, removed from files since) - Source 1 / Source 2 Lincoln B Mk I (data finds) - Source 1 / Source 2 Whirlwind Mk II - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 Early Seafires - Source (Some variants mentioned here have been added) Maryland Mk I (data finds) - Source 1 / Source 2 Shackleton MR.Mk 1 (data finds) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 Welkin Mk.I (data finds, removed from files since) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 Welkin Mk.I late (data finds, removed from files since) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 Bf 109F-4 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) Boston Mk. II - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) J2M3 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) Catalina Mk. I - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) Catalina Mk. I RAAF - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) Hurricane Mk. I - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: the Hurricane Mk. I/late came in its stead, unused since the n) Mustang Mk. IA (p_51_mk1a) - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: the current one uses the p_51b model) H-75A-4 (Mohawk IV) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 Havoc Mk. I Pandora - Source 1 / Source 2 Intruder Mk. II - Source 1 / Source 2 Mustang Mk. I - Source 1 / Source 2 Japan J5N1 (late) - Source 1 / Source 2 J5N2 - Source Ki-64 - Source Ki-74 - Source Ki-88 - Source H8K1 - Source H8K4 - Source LaGG-3-8 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added) Ki-45 ko tei - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 Ki-45 hei tei - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 G4M1 pre-1943 G5N2 - Source G8N2 - Source 1 / Source 2 Ki-43-III ko - Source 1 / Source 2 Removal of R2Y2s Planned - Source China Q5D - Source 1 / Source 2 Chinese P-36 found in CDK - Source H-75A-5 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 H-75M - Source 1 / Source 2 A6M5 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 B-17 - Source 1 / Source 2 La-7 - Source 1 / Source 2 Pe-2-359 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 P-26A-35 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 MiG-15bis (NS-23) - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files SB-2 (M-103U) (MV-3) - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files Italy Baltimore Mk. V - Source Bf 110C-3 - Source 1 / Source 2 D.520 - Source 1 / Source 2 Re.2000 G.A. Red 5 - Source France Baltimore Mk. V - Source M.B.151-C1 - Source SNCAO 200 - Source 1 / Source 2 H-75A-1 (1939) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 H-75A-2 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 H-75A-3 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files H-75A-3 (Vichy) - Source 1 / Source 2 Sweden Potential Swedish air tree candidates (pure guess work), Finnish ones, found in files - Source Pe-3bis - Source 1 / Source 2 H-75A-1 (Finland) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 H-75A-3 (Finland) - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files H-75A-4 (Finland) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 H-75A-6 (Finland) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files Israel empty Other aircraft The Netherlands: B-25J-30 - Source 1 / Source 2 H-75A-7 (NL) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files H-75N (Thai) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files Ground forces: Spoiler Ground forces general Regenerative steering - Source Time fused shells - Source 1 / Source 2 Damage model of wheeled vehicles for damage to suspension and wheels - Source Single player ground campaign in the works - Source New Japan map - Source United States T54E2 - Source 1 / Source 2 M4A4 (data finds) - Source 1 / Source 2 M3A3 (data finds) - Source M103A2 (possible) - Source Germany Leopard 1M - Source Pz.Kpfw. 38 NA - Source 1 / Source 2 Pz.Kpfw. IV E (H.A.) - Source SPz 12-3 (Typ 3Z 8DLa) - Source Pz.35t Romania Mare premium (CDK and data finds) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 East-German T-72M1 is possible - Source Russia / Soviet 2S1 - Source BMD-4M - Source BMP-23 (BG) - Source GAZ-75 - Source 1 / Source 2 M-55S (SLO) - Source Object 140 - Source Pantsir-S1 - Source BA-3 - Source BA-6 - Source More armoured cars - Source PT-76 - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files T-90M (CDK finds) - Source Great Britain Olifant Mk. 1B - Source Rooikat ZA HVM - Source 1 / Source 2 //note: won't come due to only reaching mockup stage Vickers Mk. 11 - Source Cruiser Tank, Ram II - Source 1 / Source 2 Japan Ho-Ni II - Source China ZTS63 (1980) - Source ZTZ88B - Source Wan Cheng 2 - Source Confirmed: ZTS63A - Source Confirmed: Type 79 - Source Confirmed: PGZ88 - Source Confirmed: Sd Kfz 222 - Source Confirmed: Type 59-II - Source BT-5 - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files Ha-Go - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files T-34-85 (D-5T) - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files Italy Turán I (HUN) - Source Turán III (HUN) - Source Zrínyi I (HUN) - Source Zrínyi II (HUN) - Source 75/34 M43 with BREDA 8mm MG's on top - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 / Source 5 Plans to add more ground vehicles between 4.3 - 6.0 - Source France AMD 35 (SA 35) - Source AMD 35 (Kw.K. 39) - Source AMX 10 ACRA - Source AMX-50 1950 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 / Source 5 Citroën-Kégresse P19T - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 Sweden Strv 122B+ - Source Str v 74 (Rb 52) - Source Israel empty Naval: Spoiler Naval general New naval game modes - Source Texture updates for PT boats' 37mm M4. - Source tt_tta53_50_533mm for Riga class frigates. turret_127mm_mk32 is a slightly more modern 5 inch side arm for U.S. cruisers. - (Source) turret_130mm_bl109a_twin and turret_305mm_sm31_triple? - used on "Stalingrad" class Heavy Cruiser(Source) United States Indianapolis - Source Germany Gneisenau - Source Nassau - Source Tirpitz - Source Russia / Soviet Stalingrad - Source Oktyabrskaya Revolutsiya - Source "9M39 Igla on MPK pr.12412 currently WIP, to receive feature in a future update" Great Britain Fairmile D (601) ("bigcaptain") - Source Fairmile D (617) ("bigcaptain") - Source Renown - Source Japan Ise - Source Yamashiro - Source Yamato - Source China Confirmed: Plans for the Chinese navy - Source Italy MS74 Serie 2a (Torpedoboat) - Source Sparviero (P 420) (art) - Source France French navy is being worked on - Source Sweden empty Helicopters: Spoiler General helicopters empty United States AH-6M - Source 1 / Source 2 AH-56A - Source 1 / Source 2 Germany H145M - Source 1 / Source 2 Russia / Soviet Mi-4V (CZ) - Source Great Britain Wessex HU. Mk. 5 - Source 1 / Source 2 Confirmed: Plans to develop the British helicopter research tree - Source Confirmed: Considering more helicopters, specifically the Westland Wessex - Source Japan empty China empty Italy Plans to expand Italian helicopters tree - source France empty Sweden Hkp9A (CB-3) - Source Israel empty Other helicopters Mi-24 Superhind not excluded as a possibility - Source Submarines: Spoiler General submarines Submarines unclear - Q&A so far said either "not now" or "not yet". Submarines might come eventually since they were in April Fools 2018. Submarines might be in the works due to this evidence: - Source 1 / Source 2 Other: Spoiler Other general Cluster bombs coming at some stage - Source Battle of Nijmegen WWM map - Source Amazonas map - Source Far East naval map - Source Flat Fulda ground map - Source Kamenka Quarry map - Source Kharkov ground map - Source Krymsk V2 ground map - Source Leningrad map - Source Messina ground map - Source North Port ground map - Source Norway Fjords ground map - Source Pacific naval map - Source River naval map - Source Siegfried line ground map - Source Nations & Sub Trees More sub trees coming, no details on release time - Source Poland may be in the works, but no specific plans - Source Hungarian sub tree for Italy - Source 1 / Source 2 Unclear: Spoiler General unclear OV-10A unclear - being worked on by Nova, it's a possible candidate. Please remember to keep on-topic and respect each other. Thanks! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Forum Moderator TheElite96 5,773 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 Opened Please be advised that the list on the OP will be updated tomorrow. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco_Argentum 1,493 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) And now we're here to do it all again. So since I predicted the Finnish subtree and MiG-29 and F-16 (see here) and correlation equals causation here are my predictions for the next two patches. Ejection seats Either the F-111B or the CA-15 Kangaroo. Edited December 20, 2022 by Draco_Argentum 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephensan 1,221 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 Ok, time to complain, where is the Smin Voice Mod Pack For Naval??? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireraid233 4,099 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 Next one will be interesting... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falaxion 27 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot_Alffy69 65 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 Where f-35 tho??? /s 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
[email protected] 1,206 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 Hmm, no Gepard 1A2 in the Changelog Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringer_Of_War 864 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 Wonder what the cool things will be in this one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco_Argentum 1,493 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 New packs are available btw https://store.gaijin.net/story.php?title=Saab-J35XS-Pack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephensan 1,221 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 "the mods have been real quite since the release" what they hiding 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUSChalkWarrior 212 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 F-15 Eagle and F/A-18 hornet! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea_Kelp 243 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 Plz gib drop tanks for other planes too! And RB EC mode 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_29er 652 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 https://store.gaijin.net/story.php?title=F-104S-TAF-Pack Mentions of flares are gone now... hmmm did they remove them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
[email protected] 181 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 Hello again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuTa_basuto 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 Waiting... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bananomet 414 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Sea_Kelp said: Plz gib drop tanks for other planes too! And RB EC mode →AIR RB EC +1← By ze way, in the devnotes for the update there is a mention of Ta-152C1 FM changes, but AFAIK there is no C1 version in the game. So is it for the C3 or H1? Edited December 20, 2022 by bananomet 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
[email protected] 332 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, CrystalMethDave said: F-15 Eagle and F/A-18 hornet! @CrystalMethDave nah they are obviously hiding the su-24 and su-27. If not they are probably preparing to mess with naval again somehow(wouldn’t be surprised if they threw the Yamato in at this point after the whole existence of the Kronshtadt) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volxar 417 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 r27Ts nerfed even further, r73s removed yet f16s get 7Ms, great.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
[email protected] 297 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 24 minutes ago, [email protected] said: Hmm, no Gepard 1A2 in the Changelog I hope it does not end up as an event or something like that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPANISH_AVENGER 11,346 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Volxar said: r27Ts nerfed even further Corrected* 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joze5 43 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 Ahem… Just leave this here 7 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
[email protected] 181 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Volxar said: r27Ts nerfed even further, r73s removed yet f16s get 7Ms, great.. 7Ms?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUSChalkWarrior 212 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Volxar said: r27Ts nerfed even further, r73s removed yet f16s get 7Ms, great.. given the correct seeker instead of their time travelling 1997 seeker, yes 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXTREME 1,247 Report post Posted December 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Volxar said: r27Ts nerfed even further Boo hoo, no more 2 free kills per match. 1 2 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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