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WELCOME to the War Thunder - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion Thread!

Here you can discuss everything related to the upcoming major update, including rumors, data mines, and dev blogs.

 

However, please AVOID these types of discussions:

 

Wishing for things. Some examples:

  • "I want the F-22 next update!"
  • "Gaijin where are these vehicles!!!" <lists 10 vehicles they want in the game>

There's a separate thread for this here.

 

Vehicle spec discussions, such as armour, ammo, ordnance, guns, data sheets, performance. Some examples:

  • "I hope for these vehicles, they will balance the game. They have XYZ ordnance and will counter the !"
  • 2 page discussions about what type of ammo a new tank in a dev blog will get. Now this is fine for the most part since a vehicle in the dev blog is part of the next update, however it can escalate into completely other discussions so do be careful!

There's plenty of threads for these discussions here.

 

Bug reports, issues, suggestions, feedback for dev-server or testing. Some examples:

  • "Abrams is missing its thermals. However that's not meant to be as it had this historically. Smin fix this!!!"
  • "I think that Challenger 3 would be a good addition to British Ground tree, here are the specs for it"
  • "This thing is bugged on the dev server, devs please fix it!"

You can make a bug report here and suggestion here. When the dev server is up, use the DEV Server Section for feedback.

 

Not avoiding these example discussions will mean your post is likely to be hidden by a moderator. Any continuation after that might mean you get a warning.

You must remember that this is the most popular and active thread on the forum. Its aim is to put all of the next update's information in one place so it can be discussed amongst the community. Other discussions like outlined in the examples above can be discussed in proper forum sections. Often official Gaijin members will respond on this thread so do be sure to remain respectful! Otherwise they may just stop. Please also remember that everyone is entitled to their own opinions on what may be coming. If you follow the forum rules, you'll be okay!

 

Please use the Fire and Ice Thread to discuss Major Update "Fire and Ice". Complaining here won't solve anything and is considered off-topic.

 

 

 

FAQ

 

Q: What is this thread about?

A:  This thread is about the upcoming major update and future content.

 

Q: Will you add...?

A: No. We are not developers, just nosy players.

 

Q: Why isn't [vehicle] on the list?

A: Either because there is no evidence that this vehicle will be added, or because no one told me that there is such evidence.

 

Q: Why is [vehicle/feature] on the Denied list?

A: Because said feature or vehicle was denied by Gaijin developers or their representatives at some point in the past.

 

Q: Where did my post go?

A: Off-Topic comments will often be hidden (not deleted) to keep this thread readable and on topic. No need to be alarmed or comment on the disappearing post(s), if concerned then PM Forum Moderators or Seniors.

 

Q: When will we get the patch?

A: Currently our best guess is sometime in December 2022.

 

Q: What if I don't want to read all these pages to find out what will come?

A: Read the OP. I and other moderators will frequently update it with new information.

 

List of stuff related to next update, what we know so far:

 

This is the list of stuff we know has been confirmed, plausible, denied and also data mine related stuff to the next update.

If you think something is missing from this list, please tag @TheElite96 in a reply, or send a private message.

 

First off, big image leak: https://imgur.com/a/5vuy8M5

 

Likely

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  • empty :(

 

Plausible

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  • empty :(

 

Datamines

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  • Recent datamines: nothing... yet. Thanks @gszabi99_HUNfor being hard at work :)

 

General overview of stuff collected over the last few updates, updated regularly:

Stuff that has been confirmed officially by Gaijin will have " Confirmed: " in front of it.

 

Aircraft:

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Aircraft general

  • Drop tank mechanics (CDK finds, under consideration for top ranked battles, possibly in 2023) - Source

 

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AT7CbU6.png Germany

 

 

SJtU0we.png Russia / Soviet

 

 

XbQcCio.png Great Britain

 

 

ufcDcdz.png Japan

 

 

xWY7rUE.png China

 

 

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37cAZtY.png Sweden

 

 

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  • empty :(

 

Other aircraft

 

Ground forces:

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Ground forces general

  • Regenerative steering - Source
  • Time fused shells - Source 1 / Source 2
  • Damage model of wheeled vehicles for damage to suspension and wheels - Source
  • Single player ground campaign in the works - Source
  • New Japan map - Source

 

h7zKYQw.png United States

 

 

AT7CbU6.png Germany

 

 

SJtU0we.png Russia / Soviet

 

 

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ufcDcdz.png Japan

 

 

xWY7rUE.png China

 

 

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37cAZtY.png Sweden

 

 

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  • empty :(

 

Naval:

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Naval general

  • New naval game modes - Source
  • Texture updates for PT boats' 37mm M4. - Source

  • tt_tta53_50_533mm for Riga class frigates.
  • turret_127mm_mk32 is a slightly more modern 5 inch side arm for U.S. cruisers. - (Source)
  • turret_130mm_bl109a_twin and turret_305mm_sm31_triple? - used on "Stalingrad" class Heavy Cruiser(Source)

 

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AT7CbU6.png  Germany

 

 

SJtU0we.png  Russia / Soviet

 

  • Stalingrad -  Source
  • Oktyabrskaya Revolutsiya - Source  
  • "9M39 Igla on MPK pr.12412 currently WIP, to receive feature in a future update"

 

XbQcCio.png Great Britain

 

 

ufcDcdz.png  Japan

 

 

xWY7rUE.png  China

 

  • Confirmed: Plans for the Chinese navy - Source

 

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  • MS74 Serie 2a (Torpedoboat)  - Source
  • Sparviero (P 420) (art) -  Source

 

ORbqsHb.png France

 

  • French navy is being worked on - Source

 

37cAZtY.png  Sweden

 

  • empty :(

 

Helicopters:

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General helicopters

  • empty :(

 

h7zKYQw.png United States

 

 

AT7CbU6.png  Germany

 

 

SJtU0we.png  Russia / Soviet

 

 

XbQcCio.png  Great Britain

 

  • Wessex HU. Mk. 5 -  Source 1  / Source 2
  • Confirmed: Plans to develop the British helicopter research tree - Source
  • Confirmed: Considering more helicopters, specifically the Westland Wessex - Source

 

ufcDcdz.png  Japan

 

  • empty :(

 

xWY7rUE.png  China

 

  • empty :(

 

06W7ypB.png  Italy

 

  • Plans to expand Italian helicopters tree - source

 

ORbqsHb.png  France

 

  • empty :(

 

37cAZtY.png  Sweden

 

 

MT8aCN4.png Israel

 

  • empty :(

 

Other helicopters

  • Mi-24 Superhind not excluded as a possibility - Source

 

Submarines:

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General submarines

  • Submarines unclear - Q&A so far said either "not now" or "not yet". Submarines might come eventually since they were in April Fools 2018.
  • Submarines might be in the works due to this evidence: - Source

 

Other:

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Other general

 

Unclear:

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General unclear

  • OV-10A unclear - being worked on by Nova, it's a possible candidate.

 

Please remember to keep on-topic and respect each other.

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Opened!

 

Please be advised, that for the time being and for probably most of release day, the list on the OP will not be up to date. I will update it when I can, which will be no later than tomorrow. Cheers!

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Hopefully the CV9030 and T-55M will make it for the next patch then......

Really let down by their non-appearance in this patch.

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I think this would be locked for a week or at least a few days to avoid discussions about the brand new patch, is it not happening like that or ? 

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Just now, KilianL said:

I think this would be locked for a week or at least a few days to avoid discussions about the brand new patch, is it not happening like that or ? 

Well we tried that once, didn't really work out that great. So we open the topic immediately now, and deal with any off topic conversations as needed.

Bottom line is, this is not and never has been a "discuss anything" thread, and we do take action on things that are not fitting here. That may be tough for some folks, but that's the reality.

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25 minutes ago, Draco_Argentum said:

Welcome back. Last time I guessed new nation and F-16+MiG-29 for the last two patches of the year. Since we got a new nation last patch clearly this one is Fighting Falcon and Fulcrum.

 

Better be based on the embarrassing nature of fire and ice....

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Please, do not use this thread to discus the new Update that has been released today!!

 

Go here for the Fire and Ice-Update:

 

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Well, time to repost the list of vehicles that were leaked in previous mines, and which have already been implemented.

 

Still a surprising number of vehicles "in the files", so to say...

 

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[US] McDonnell Douglas A-4M Skyhawk - updated 2.15.0.13

[US] Vought A-7E Corsair II - Implemented, 2.11 "Ground Breaking"

[US] Republic F-105A Thunderchief - Implemented, "2.13 Winged Lions"

[US] Northrop F-89J Scorpion - updated 2.15.0.13

[US] Bell YF2L-1 - updated 2.15.0.13

[US] Douglas A-20A

[US] Douglas A-26B-1 - updated 2.20.0.17

[US] Goodyear F2G-2 - updated 2.15.0.13

[US] Seversky P-35 - updated 2.15.0.13

[US] Martin B-26E - updated 2.20.0.17

[US] Martin PBM-5A Mariner

[US] Hughes YAH-64 – Implemented, 2.09 “Direct Hit”

[US] Hughes AH-64A (Greece) - Implemented, "2.21 Fire and Ice"

[US] Boeing AH-6M Little Bird - updated 2.15.0.13

[US] Lockheed AH-56A Cheyenne - updated 2.15.0.13

[US] T26 turret on M4 - updated 2.20.0.17

[US] T54E2 - updated 2.15.0.13

[US] XM975 Roland - Implemented, "2.13 Winged Lions"

[US] CCV(L) - Implemented, Project “Overpowered” Event

[US] Battleship USS Arizona (1931) - Implemented, "2.15 Wind of Change"

[US] Battleship USS Alaska - Implemented, 2.19 "Drone Age"

[US] Battleship USS Arkansas (BB-33) - updated 2.20.0.17

[US] Cruiser USS Pittsburgh – Implemented, 2.09 “Direct Hit”

[US] Cruiser USS Indianapolis (CA-68)

[US] Cruiser USS Des Moines (CA-134) - updated 2.20.0.17 - Implemented, 2.21 as USS Newport News (CA-148) for 2022/2023 Winter Event

[US] Cruiser USS Fargo (CL-106) - Implemented, "2.21 Fire and Ice"

[US] Cruiser USS Roanoke (CL-145) - updated 2.20.0.17

 

 

[DE] Airbus H145M - updated 2.15.0.13

[DE] Focke-Wulf Fw 190 A-5/U14 - Implemented, "2.21 Fire and Ice"

[DE] IA.58 Pucara - shown in 2.13 devservers 1 & 2, was a WIP at the time

[DE] Junkers Ju 87A-2 - updated 2.20.0.17

[DE] Leopard 2 PT-14 - Implemented, Event "Export Order"

[DE] Leopard 1AM

[DE] Marder 1A3 – Implemented, 2.09 “Direct Hit”

[DE] Marder DF 105 - Implemented, "2.13 Winged Lions"

[DE] AMD 35 (KwK) - updated 2.20.0.17

[DE] Flakpanzer IV (3 cm Flakvierling) 'Zerstörer 45' - updated 2.20.0.17

[DE] Pz. Kpfw. II (Flamm) A - NEW in 2.15.0.13 'leak'

[DE] Pz. Kpfw. IV (Hydro) - NEW in 2.15.0.13 'leak'

[DE] Schutzenpanzer Puma - Implemented, "2.15 Wind of Change"

[DE] Sd Kfz 251/9  - Implemented, "2.21 Fire and Ice"

[DE] Sd Kfz 251/22 – Implemented, Battle Pass “Fearless Voltigeur”

[DE] Spz Lang Typ 12-13 - NEW in 2.15.0.13 'leak'

[DE] Spz Oerlikon Raketenautomat - updated 2.20.0.17

[DE] Pz.Kpfw. 38NA - updated 2.15.0.13

[DE] Battleship Baden

[DE] Battleship Gneisenau

[DE] Battleship Scharnhorst - Implemented, "2.13 Winged Lions"

[DE] Battleship Nassau

[DE] Battleship Ostfriesland - Implemented, Project “Overpowered” Event

[DE] Battleship Tirpitz (1941)

[DE] Battleship Tirpitz (1944)

 

 

[RU] MDR-6

[RU] Ilyushin IL-2 Serie 3

[RU] Tupolev SB-2M-100a Spain

[RU] Mil Mi-4V (Cz)

[RU] GU-37

[RU] LaGG-3-1

[RU] LaGG-3-29

[RU] P-47D-22 Thunderbolt - updated 2.15.0.13

[RU] Sukhoi Su-25 (late) - updated 2.20.0.17

[RU] Mil Mi-28NM - implemented, 2.11 "Ground Breaking"

[RU] GAZ-75 - updated 2.15.0.13

[RU] 2S1 Gvozdika - NEW in 2.15.0.13 'leak'

[RU] BMD-4M - NEW in 2.15.0.13 'leak'

[RU] BMP-23 (BG) - NEW in 2.15.0.13 'leak'

[RU] M-55S (SLO) - NEW in 2.15.0.13 'leak'

[RU] Objekt 140 - NEW in 2.15.0.13 'leak'

[RU] Objekt 430 - updated 2.20.0.17

[RU] Objekt 435 - updated 2.20.0.17

[RU] Pantsir-S1 - NEW in 2.15.0.13 'leak'

[RU] T-72M2 Moderna (SVK) - NEW in 2.15.0.13 'leak' - Implemented, "Battle for Arachis" Event

[RU] KhT-130 - NEW in 2.15.0.13 'leak'

[RU] Project 131 Libelle Torpedo Boat (?) - updated 2.20.0.17

[RU] Battlecruiser Kronshtadt - Implemented, 2.17 "Danger Zone"

[RU] Battlecruiser Stalingrad

[RU] Battleship Parizhskaya Kommuna – Implemented, 2.09 “Direct Hit”

[RU] Destroyer Pr.30bis Smelyi – Implemented, 2.09 “Direct Hit”

 

 

[UK] Supermarine Swift F.2 - updated 2.15.0.13

[UK] Avro Shackleton MR Mk.1

[UK] Avro Shackleton MR Mk.2 – Implemented, 2.09 “Direct Hit”

[UK] Supermarine Spitfire Mk.VII - updated 2.15.0.13

[UK] Westland Welkin Mk.I - updated 2.15.0.13

[UK] Westland Welkin Mk.I (Late) - updated 2.15.0.13

[UK] Westland Whirlwind Mk.II - updated 2.15.0.13

[UK] Martin Baltimore Mk.V

[UK] Westland Wessex HU.5 - updated 2.15.0.13

[UK] Olifant Mk.1B - NEW in 2.15.0.13 'leak'

[UK] Rooikat ZA HVM - updated 2.15.0.13

[UK] Vickers Mk.3 – Implemented, 2.09 “Direct Hit”

[UK] Vickers Mk.11 - NEW in 2.15.0.13 'leak'

[UK] Alecto Mk.1 - NEW in 2.15.0.13 'leak' - Implemented, "Battle for Arachis" Event

[UK] Battleship HMS Iron Duke (1912) - updated 2.20.0.17

[UK] Battlecruiser HMS Hood - implemented, 2.17 "Danger Zone"

[UK] Battlecruiser HMS Renown

[UK] Destroyer HMCS Terra Nova (DDE 259) - updated 2.20.0.17

[UK] Corvette LÉ Orla (P41) – Implemented, 2.09 “Direct Hit”

[UK] Challenger 2 Black Night (appeared in game trailer) - "2.15 Wind of Change"

[UK] Challenger 2 Megatron - updated 2.20.0.17

 

 

[FR] Avro Lancaster MR.7 - updated 2.20.0.17

[FR] Curtiss H-75A-3 - updated 2.15.0.13

[FR] Curtiss H-75A-5 - updated 2.15.0.13 (NOTE: variant only used by ROCAF and RAF)

[FR] Curtiss H-75A-6 - updated 2.15.0.13 (NOTE: variant only used by Norway and Finland)

[FR] Curtiss H-75A-7 - updated 2.15.0.13 (NOTE: variant only used by Netherlands East Indian Air Force)

[FR] Curtiss H-75N - updated 2.15.0.13 (NOTE: variant only used by Thailand)

[FR] Douglas SBD-5 - updated 2.20.0.17

[FR] SNCAO 200 - updated 2.15.0.13

[FR] Martin Baltimore Mk.V

[FR] Bloch MB.151C-1

[FR] Mirage Milan - leaked in 2.15.1.130 - Implemented, 2.17 "Danger Zone"

[FR] P.19.T - updated 2.15.0.13

[FR] AMD 35 (SA35) - updated 2.15.0.13

[FR] AMD 35 (Kw.K.39) - updated 2.15.0.13

[FR] AMX10M ACRA - updated 2.15.0.13

[FR] AMX32 105 - updated 2.20.0.17

[FR] AMX50 1950 - updated 2.15.0.13

[FR] AMX ELC bis - Implemented, "2.15 Wind of Change"

[FR] Leclerc s.XXI - Implemented, "2.13 Winged Lions"

 

 

[IT] Messerschmitt Bf 110C-3 - updated 2.15.0.13

[IT] Martin Baltimore Mk.V

[IT] C13 T90 – Implemented, 2.09 “Direct Hit”

[IT] Semovente M43 75/34 (III Rgt. Bersaglieri) - updated 2.15.0.13

[IT] Turán I (HUN) - updated 2.15.0.13

[IT] Turán III (HUN) - updated 2.15.0.13

[IT] Zrínyi I (HUN) - updated 2.15.0.13 - Implemented, Event "Summer Quest"

[IT] Zrínyi II (HUN) - updated 2.15.0.13

[IT] MS74-2a

[IT] Alcione (F544) - updated 2.20.0.17

[IT] P420 Sparviero

 

 

[JP] Nakajima Ki-45 Ko Tei

[JP] Nakajima J5N1 Late - updated 2.15.0.13

[JP] Nakajima G8N2/3 Renzan

[JP] Bell/Fuji AH-1E - updated 2.20.0.17

[JP] Type 3 Ka-Chi – Implemented, Event “Summer Landing”

[JP] Type 10 MBT - Implemented, "2.13 Winged Lions"

[JP] Ho-Ni II - NEW in 2.15.0.13 'leak'

[JP] Cruiser IJN Fusō - Implemented, "2.21 Fire and Ice"

[JP] Battlecruiser IJN Kirishima - updated 2.20.0.17

[JP] Battleship IJN Ise

[JP] Battleship IJN Yamashiro

[JP] Cruiser IJN Yubari – Implemented, 2.09 “Direct Hit”

[JP] Destroyer IJN Nenohi - updated 2.20.0.17

 

 

[CN] Nanchang Q-5D Fantan - updated 2.15.0.13

[CN] Northrop F-5E AIDC - Implemented, 2.17 "Danger Zone"

[CN] Boeing P-26A-35 (Note: the Chinese export model was known as the "Model 281")

[CN] Object 211 - updated 2.20.0.17

[CN] ZTL-11- Implemented, 2.11 "Ground Breaking"

[CN] ZTZ99-III – Implemented, 2.09 “Direct Hit”

[CN] ZTS63 (1980) - NEW in 2.15.0.13 'leak'

[CN] ZTZ88B - NEW in 2.15.0.13 'leak'

[CN] Wan Cheng 2 - NEW in 2.15.0.13 'leak'

 

 

[SE] Arado Ar 196 A-5 - NEW in 2.17.0.190 - Implemented, "2.19 Drone Age"

[SE] Hawker Hurricane Mk.I/L (Finland) - Implemented, "2.21 Fire and Ice"

[SE] Hawker J34 Hunter  - Implemented, "2.21 Fire and Ice"

[SE] SAAB JA-37C Viggen – Implemented, 2.09 “Direct Hit”

[SE] Bell 204B HKp3C - Implemented, "2.15 Wind of Change"

[SE] HKp9A (CB-3) - NEW in 2.15.0.13 'leak'

[SE] Pvb 301 – Implemented, 2.09 “Direct Hit”

[SE] Pvkv III - updated 2.15.0.13 - Implemented, 2.17 "Danger Zone"

[SE] Pvkv IV - updated 2.15.0.13

[SE] Strf 9040B - Implemented, 2.11 "Ground Breaking"

[SE] CV 90105 XC-8 - Implemented, 2.19 "Drone Age"

[SE] Strv 103B - updated 2.20.0.17

[SE] Strv 122B PLUS - updated 2.15.0.13

 

 

[IL] Dassault MD.460 Super Mystère B.2 Saar - Implemented, "2.13 Winged Lions"

[IL] Dassault MD.460 Super Mystère B.2 Sambad - Implemented, "2.13 Winged Lions"

[IL] Bell AH-1E - updated 2.20.0.17

[IL] Magach 6B Gal - updated 2.20.0.17

[IL] Magach 6M - Implemented, 2.19 "Drone Age"

[IL] Magach 6R - Implemented, 2.19 "Drone Age"

[IL] Magach 7A - updated 2.20.0.17

[IL] Magach 7C - updated 2.20.0.17 - Implemented, 2.23

[IL] PT-76B - updated 2.20.0.17

[IL] Centurion Mk.5/1 Sho't - updated 2.20.0.17

 

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4 minutes ago, Kanyiko said:

Well, time to repost the list of vehicles that were leaked in previous mines, and which have already been implemented.

 

Still a surprising number of vehicles "in the files", so to say...

 

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[US] Lockheed AH-56A Cheyenne - updated 2.15.0.13

 

 

 

I really thought the Cheyenne was going to be the next US Helicopter premium vehicle, I am gonna guess it's gonna be an event if anything.

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25 minutes ago, SXTREME said:

 

I really thought the Cheyenne was going to be the next US Helicopter premium vehicle, I am gonna guess it's gonna be an event if anything.

Cheyenne is a generation older machine than Apache and much less capable hence Apache is better choice

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26 minutes ago, Kanyiko said:

Still a surprising number of vehicles "in the files", so to say...


Helps that we got another batch of them this patch, doesn't it. Eh ?
 

27 minutes ago, Kanyiko said:

[RU] Project 131 Libelle Torpedo Boat (?) - updated 2.20.0.17


Still think this is going to appear in DE rather than USSR, personally.
 

 

34 minutes ago, Kanyiko said:

[JP] Bell/Fuji AH-1E - updated 2.20.0.17

35 minutes ago, Kanyiko said:

[IL] Bell AH-1E - updated 2.20.0.17


For the life of me, I can't find anywhere that states the E-model Cobra was operated by either of these countries. Maybe it 's WT 's internal name for the AH-1S w/ the 20mm gatling ?
 

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1 hour ago, TheElite96 said:

Opened!

 

Please be advised, that for the time being and for probably most of release day, the list on the OP will not be up to date. I will update it when I can, which will be no later than tomorrow. Cheers!

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