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Very disappointed by the Scharnhorst


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Dear all,

 

some time ago I unlocked the Scharnhorst hoping it could be a good BC, with a decent damage, speed and protection against the USA CL spam we use to see those days.

I don't know if it's me using it wrongly, but I'm very disappointed by this ship.

 

First of all, damage seems to be very sub par even compared to CA and some CL (Helena *coff coff). I tried every combination of SAP, HE and AP rounds but it takes me really a lot of time to disable even lightly armored ships like the Helena, and even more to take care of others with better armor, like the Zheleznyakov. To make this worse, the 17 sec reload time make basically impossible to take a kill, since every other player with a decent RoF will just land the last hit (I know this is not really related to this ship in particular, nevertheless it suffer from it greatly).

 

On the other hand, I found that the armor belt is just useless. I'm not talking about BB, which of course can easily pierce trough as expected, but even the lightest ship can simply spam an infinite amount of HE shells, putting the ship constantly on fire, constantly disabling secondary turrets and literally shredding the whole crew, decreasing the RoF to 2 rounds per minute in the process and making it basically impossible to react.

 

In regard fo mobility, I have to say that top speed is quite good, but acceleration and turn radius are absolutely bad. Maneuver this ship is very difficult and the ships tend to roll and pitch a lot, making the guns even more inaccurate.

 

What do you think about this ship?

Can you share your tips to play it?

 

Thanks

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4 minutes ago, Khurt said:

Dear all,

 

some time ago I unlocked the Scharnhorst hoping it could be a good BC, with a decent damage, speed and protection against the USA CL spam we use to see those days.

I don't know if it's me using it wrongly, but I'm very disappointed by this ship.

 

First of all, damage seems to be very sub par even compared to CA and some CL (Helena *coff coff). I tried every combination of SAP, HE and AP rounds but it takes me really a lot of time to disable even lightly armored ships like the Helena, and even more to take care of others with better armor, like the Zheleznyakov. To make this worse, the 17 sec reload time make basically impossible to take a kill, since every other player with a decent RoF will just land the last hit (I know this is not really related to this ship in particular, nevertheless it suffer from it greatly).

 

On the other hand, I found that the armor belt is just useless. I'm not talking about BB, which of course can easily pierce trough as expected, but even the lightest ship can simply spam an infinite amount of HE shells, putting the ship constantly on fire, constantly disabling secondary turrets and literally shredding the whole crew, decreasing the RoF to 2 rounds per minute in the process and making it basically impossible to react.

 

In regard fo mobility, I have to say that top speed is quite good, but acceleration and turn radius are absolutely bad. Maneuver this ship is very difficult and the ships tend to roll and pitch a lot, making the guns even more inaccurate.

 

What do you think about this ship?

Can you share your tips to play it?

 

Thanks

It's a very nice ship and I generally dislike anything German so bias isn't an issue.  It's fast, well armoured and the guns are as good as they should be for their place.  Don't broadside and keep moving and you should do perfectly fine

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16 hours ago, Khurt said:

Dear all,

 

some time ago I unlocked the Scharnhorst hoping it could be a good BC, with a decent damage, speed and protection against the USA CL spam we use to see those days.

I don't know if it's me using it wrongly, but I'm very disappointed by this ship.

 

First of all, damage seems to be very sub par even compared to CA and some CL (Helena *coff coff). I tried every combination of SAP, HE and AP rounds but it takes me really a lot of time to disable even lightly armored ships like the Helena, and even more to take care of others with better armor, like the Zheleznyakov. To make this worse, the 17 sec reload time make basically impossible to take a kill, since every other player with a decent RoF will just land the last hit (I know this is not really related to this ship in particular, nevertheless it suffer from it greatly).

 

On the other hand, I found that the armor belt is just useless. I'm not talking about BB, which of course can easily pierce trough as expected, but even the lightest ship can simply spam an infinite amount of HE shells, putting the ship constantly on fire, constantly disabling secondary turrets and literally shredding the whole crew, decreasing the RoF to 2 rounds per minute in the process and making it basically impossible to react.

 

In regard fo mobility, I have to say that top speed is quite good, but acceleration and turn radius are absolutely bad. Maneuver this ship is very difficult and the ships tend to roll and pitch a lot, making the guns even more inaccurate.

 

What do you think about this ship?

Can you share your tips to play it?

 

Thanks

 

All battleships and battlecruisers are currently getting shat on by the HE spam bug. Scharn is actually better off than most.

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8 hours ago, kkang2828 said:

 

All battleships and battlecruisers are currently getting shat on by the HE spam bug. Scharn is actually better off than most.

 

Try playing one of the Light Cruisers with fast firing tripple turrets and forgot about Hipper, Spees, Bayerns or Scharnhorsts (their firing rate is too slow, especially under enemy fire, you do no damage and get almost no kills, all kills go to the HE spammers). The bigger the gun calibre, the slower the firing rate. Bayern under enemy fire almost has to cease effective shooting, it takes ages to reload. 

 

Rapid HE spam is meta. Playing capital ships won't get you far except for the devastating Kronstadt, which is shooting  almost four times (!) the HE mass per minute than the Scharnhorst. Everything else doesn't matter, its HE...HE...HE...HE.

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