f16 F-16 Fighting Falcon: History, Performance & Discussion

[Fireraid233 4,254]

4 hours ago, spacenavy90 said:

 

Hey there Fireraid! AESA radars are gonna be like magic if/when they eventually come to the game.

That said I already had this radar listed out at the bottom of the Specs > Radars section. 

Woops must of forgot lol

[Suizu_Aika 59]

what is the max block for F-16A?

[spacenavy90 1,399]

Just now, Suizu_Aika said:

what is the max block for F-16A?

 

The F-16V Block 70/72 is just recently being the new retrofit and production fighters from Lockheed.

[tripod2008 572]

10 hours ago, Suizu_Aika said:

what is the max block for F-16A?

Technically the Block 20's were the last F-16A/B variants produced(The F-16C/D production begins Block 25), though they are effectively Block 50 / MLU technology backported to earlier Airframes and were a way to give Taiwan superiors fighters without giving them the "most advanced" variants, for all intents and purposes there is very little difference between the two.

 

Realistically The Block 15 (1981) was the last F-16A/B for most nations, with the -15OCU(1987) upgrade package bringing them up to approximately to Block 32(1986) Aircraft standards [added AIM-120 / Hi-PRF AIM-7(AIM-7F and Later variants) capability, "digital" AGM-65(AGM-65D and later) and PGM / TGP capacity], and the Later Block -15ADF(1989) subvariant which was the only US F-16's to use Sparrows(AIM-7E/F only due to using CWI not Hi-PRF for guidance) instead of the AMRAAM in service.

Edited November 16, 2022 by tripod2008

[spacenavy90 1,399]

Oh my mistake, I misread what you asked! Yes as @tripod2008 mentions the block 20 can be considered the final F-16A, and the F-16C designation officially started with the block 25. Several F-16A models however were brought up to F-16C standards however so it can be a little tricky to navigate the capabilities of a specific airframe.

[hypilot 122]

So what even is the block 20? One source I’ve seen say it’s a F-16C with a A tail.  In the Chinese language wiki entry for it it says it uses the body of the block 15 OCU, block 30/40 wings, tail and horizontal stabilizers of block 52, air inlet of block 42, avionics from the MLU project, and power system of block 32.

[tripod2008 572]

On 18/11/2022 at 00:33, hypilot said:

So what even is the block 20? One source I’ve seen say it’s a F-16C with a A tail.  In the Chinese language wiki entry for it it says it uses the body of the block 15 OCU, block 30/40 wings, tail and horizontal stabilizers of block 52, air inlet of block 42, avionics from the MLU project, and power system of block 32.

I don't know about specifics, but more info and be found at the following link;

 https://www.f-16.net/f-16_users_article19.html

 

Also just found a Neat Pic of a Block 40/42 with a GBU-15, of which it was only ever tested with.

Spoiler

 

Edited November 20, 2022 by tripod2008

[Jaek_ 359]

On 10/07/2022 at 17:00, spacenavy90 said:

Countermeasures : (2) AN/ALE-40

 

On 10/07/2022 at 17:00, spacenavy90 said:

Countermeasures : (4) AN/ALE-40

So the American/Italian/Taiwanese F-16s would have 60 countermeasures and the Israeli one would have 120? Is that correct? 

[spacenavy90 1,399]

49 minutes ago, Jaek_ said:

 

So the American/Italian/Taiwanese F-16s would have 60 countermeasures and the Israeli one would have 120? Is that correct? 

 

Yes to the first few, but no actually I need to update the Israeli ones. They have have 6 ALE-40 dispensers so... 180 actually. Pretty insane.

[Jaek_ 359]

7 hours ago, spacenavy90 said:

but no actually I need to update the Israeli ones. They have have 6 ALE-40 dispensers

Yep, you're right. Didn't know about the ones by the ventral fins. 

[Fireraid233 4,254]

"Countermeasures : (2) AN/ALE-47

CMD"

 

I'm also trying to figure out how many countermeasures the F-2 would have since it has 2 at the bottom but also 2 more slots for CMD near the tail area these are apparently AN/ALE-47s. 

 

Edited November 30, 2022 by Fireraid233

[Cairn_67 537]

On 29/11/2022 at 14:34, Jaek_ said:

Yep, you're right. Didn't know about the ones by the ventral fins. 

Are the black boxes on the F-16i's (Sufa) dorsal spine also dispensers?

Spoiler

 

[spacenavy90 1,399]

6 hours ago, Cairn_67 said:

Are the black boxes on the F-16i's (Sufa) dorsal spine also dispensers?

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Yes they are. They replace two on the bottom side, so the count remains the same.

 

https://warthunder.com/en/news/7984/current/

 

Rank 8 aircraft (and rank 7 premiums) are officially coming. I think it's very safe to say we can expect the F-16 to be in there somewhere.

 

[Suizu_Aika 59]

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Unknown if this true or not 

Edited December 3, 2022 by Suizu_Aika

[spacenavy90 1,399]

1 hour ago, Suizu_Aika said:

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Unknown if this true or not 

 

What is the source for these do you know?

[Suizu_Aika 59]

3 minutes ago, spacenavy90 said:

 

What is the source for these do you know?

I also looking the source I got this from Rumor round-up

[spacenavy90 1,399]

19 minutes ago, Suizu_Aika said:

I also looking the source I got this from Rumor round-up

 

I believe that this is the source. Very interesting to say the least.

[Suizu_Aika 59]

4 minutes ago, spacenavy90 said:

 

I believe that this is the source. Very interesting to say the least.

Very interesting Imagine if it's big true

Edited December 3, 2022 by Suizu_Aika

[Fireraid233 4,254]

8 hours ago, Suizu_Aika said:

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Unknown if this true or not 

6 AIM-9Ls *gulp*

[Gatsby_WT 134]

9 minutes ago, Fireraid233 said:

6 AIM-9Ls *gulp*

Basically SU-17/22 and F-14 killer, Mig-23 maybe too, these planes have extremely hot exhaust and flares will be useless.

[Leon026 111]

It'll be like an F-5E on steroids; a ground-hugging knife-fighter.

And that, my friends, is going to be a joy to dance the tango with.

[SXTREME 1,474]

Which block do y'all think we will be getting?

[spacenavy90 1,399]

1 hour ago, SXTREME said:

Which block do y'all think we will be getting?

 

 

Based on this picture, we at least know it isn't a block 15 ADF or above due to the lack of the IFF antenna "bird slicers". So my best guess given the limited viewing angles would be a block 10 or basic block 15.

 

[AUSChalkWarrior 262]

1 hour ago, SXTREME said:

Which block do y'all think we will be getting?

probably some weird amalgamation of multiple which is typical of Gaijin

[spacenavy90 1,399]

15 minutes ago, CrystalMethDave said:

probably some weird amalgamation of multiple which is typical of Gaijin

 

It would actually be pretty easy to tell which variant it is if we could see the vertical and horizontal stabilizers along with the weapons it carries. Although blocks 5 and 10 would be nearly identical from the exterior.