server update Server Update 03.02.2022 (Economy changes)

[Stona 72,288]

Planned economy changes have been implemented:

• Bonus Silver Lions reward for victory or defeat in missions have been changed to 47% and 20%, instead of 67% and 0% respectively.
• The research points reward for time spent in mission has been changed: 0.8 RP/sec for defeat and 1.2 RP/sec for victory, instead of 0.6 RP/sec for defeat and 1.4 RP/sec for victory.
• Changes to reward multipliers, repair costs, and related economic parameters for vehicles have been applied in accordance to with a transition to the rank based economy.
•  Changes to research and purchase costs, as well as relative parameters for specific vehicles have been applied.

Changes to the research trees:

• M1A1 Abrams and IPM1 一 switched places.
• Pz.IV F2 and Pz.IV G 一 grouped up.
• Pz.IV H and Pz.IV J (in the group) 一 moved to rank II.
• TAM and Begleitpanzer 57 一 switched places.
• Crusader AA Mk.I and Crusader AA Mk.II 一 switched places.
• Chi-Ha Kai and Ho-I 一 switched places.
• Ikv 103 一 moved to rank III.
• F-104G 一 moved to rank VII.
• Ju 88 C-6 一 moved to rank II.
• Bf 110 C-7 and Bf 110 F-2 一 grouped up.
• Tu-4, Tu-4 (China) 一 moved to rank V.

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The current provided changelog reflects the major changes within the game as part of this Update. Some updates, additions and fixes may not be listed in the provided notes. War Thunder is constantly improving and specific fixes may be implemented without the client being updated.

 

[OFW_Schroedinger 804]

excuse me, but why were the Pz IVs moved down. This seems to be a change soley made to make events harder, like, no offense to the devs but damn that doesnt sit right

[Stona 72,288]

1 minute ago, OFW_Schroedinger said:

excuse me, but why were the Pz IVs moved down. This seems to be a change soley made to make events harder, like, no offense to the devs but damn that doesnt sit right

 

[ofekk213 247]

1 minute ago, Stona said:

 

exuse me? low performance? the Pz.IV G and F2 have very effective armour and whats probabley the most powerfull guns in their BR. these 2 are amazing tanks at their BR.

 

the devs should really take into account the difference between new players and experienced players using certain vehicles.

 

for example: the tiger. newer players would rush without angling and die a lot while experienced players would angle 45° and would take their time.

 

in my opinion, the performance of experienced players should have more weight than the performance of new players.

have a nice day.

[Harry_El_Hacha 172]

Please move back the Pz.IV to Rank III or even better, allow all tasks to be completed also with Rank II vehicles.

 

 

Edited February 3, 2022 by Harry_El_Hacha

[Marseill 5,506]

I don't see a single reason to put Pz IV on level II. Unfortunately, the only reason is probably events. The cannon is quite strong and can eliminate most tanks on the 3rd level and many on the 4th level, so there is no problem and the game is balanced by BR, not according to the level of the vehicle ....

Please undo this change, I no longer play vehicles that are 1.-2. level because nothing can be done with them, no event (ok, 1 day mission, but that's all).

[Stona 72,288]

11 minutes ago, ofekk213 said:

exuse me?(...)

 

10 minutes ago, Harry_El_Hacha said:

Please move back the Pz.IV to Rank III or even better, allow all tasks to be completed with Rank II vehicles. (...)

 

3 minutes ago, Marseill said:

I don't see a single reason to put Pz IV on level II. (...)

Already answered in post above.

This topic is related to economy changes.

When we will post upcoming BR changes, it will be time to post your ideas and suggestions related to vehicle BRs and place in tech tree.

[Deep_night 25]

Why are there still remnants of the efficiency-based system in the ranked-based system? 

I think that the repair cost of the lower rank should be lower than that of the higher rank, and if the rank is the same, the repair cost should be the same.

IPM1 in the US is downgraded to rank 6. However, Soviet rank 7 BVM tanks cost less to repair than IPM1.

Get rid of all the remnants of your old efficiency-based systems. And if the ranks are the same, I hope the repair costs will be unified.

And if the rank is also high, of course the reward should be higher than that of a low rank.

I hope that the higher the rank, the higher the reward.

Edited February 3, 2022 by Deep_night

[Ash nazg durbatulûk 318]

New system is worse than it was before  Thank you Gaijin

[Stona 72,288]

6 minutes ago, _Lethe_ said:

New system is worse than it was before  Thank you Gaijin

Why?

[Ash nazg durbatulûk 318]

3 minutes ago, Stona said:

Why?

Premium vehicles(especially tanks) new reward multipliers are scarce. How about regular tree vehicles reward 

[Necatosh 12]

Why does my LA-15 now cost over 10,000 to repair, i haven't had over 100,000 sl in my account since this change

[Douche_du_jour 3]

Why is the KI-61 b Hein in the American tree a BR 2.3 still? It is the same vehicle as in the Japan and China tree with the only difference it has a "b" next to its name and they are BR 3.0. This thing is getting down tiered into 1.3 battles where it does not belong and easily dominating against much inferior vehicles, please adjust. Thanks

[tono_taka 31]

Why did the German 104G become Rank VII despite the fact that the F-104J and S, which have higher performance than the F-104G, became Rank VI?

[Claudy_Focan 69]

IA.58A Pucara confirmed in GER tree ! NICE !

Thanks for the Excel nutshell, you made my day !

[lukasek__ 0]

So will T95 repair cost decrease?

since at 7.0 its useless you always get killed by an atgm or heat-fs

[SlowHandClap 510]

57 minutes ago, Stona said:

Why?

Rank 6 jets like the MiG-19S have had their repair cost increase by 5k for seemingly no reason. They are way more expensive than the end of the tech tree jets. How is this "rank based"? A lot of rank V and VI jets seem to have massive increases for no reason.

Edited February 3, 2022 by SlowHandClap

[Favnirbane 175]

1 hour ago, Stona said:

 

(...)

This topic is related to economy changes.

When we will post upcoming BR changes, it will be time to post your ideas and suggestions related to vehicle BRs and place in tech tree.

Are they lowered in rank to balance out some of the repair costs in tier 2 or tier 3, as this change in tiers is purely economical?

[Andruven 17]

I don't remember seeing "Massive reductions to reward multipliers at all ranks" when reading the poll.

[El_Navaja 501]

Why the EJ Kai has less reward than the regular EJ? Same with the F-4E and J. This is the worst change in economy I ever seen playing since 2015, less rewards on top tier vehicles, less rewards on tanks, less rewards for premium vehicles, less rewards even  FOR WINNING

[guille071 7]

I don´t understand the new system, for example the J7E is 16000sl, the F4-EJ kai is 8900sl and both rank 7. Why is that?

 

Edited February 3, 2022 by guille071

[WigglyGripen 211]

2 hours ago, Stona said:

Tu-4, Tu-4 (China) 一 moved to rank V.

I guess we have the first prop bomber in rank V? Is there a reason why this was moved? The A2D isn't even rank V.

[Moizuss 16]

1 hour ago, Stona said:

Why?

I for one don't understand how after the economy update, my 4 kill 2 death 92% activity victory in ground RB (IPM1 and M1A1 died) got 3,7 k profit (with premium on), compared to 30-40k profit before the change. Its unreasonable and makes no sense whatsoever. Maybe something is wrong with American multipliers but its really bad right now and i hope you Guys will look into it soon.

 

Edited February 3, 2022 by Moizuss

[ZioBorisitalia 1]

Sagittario 2° is still 22k silver lion, how am i supposed to use it if i have to pay an eye to repair it?!

 

 

[[email protected] 292]

I can see why the G and F2 were grouped, but the H and J at Rank 2?