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26 minutes ago, BlazeFlame24 said:

Devs being biased towards German mains?

The dev does whatever the manager tells him.

 

Said manager has to balance between the two goals of every game developer.

1. Make profit

2. Keep the game alive and well to continue achieving this profit

 

27 minutes ago, BlazeFlame24 said:

P47M is anything than OP or broken

Talking about the D-28 but apparently you decided to ignore that

 

28 minutes ago, BlazeFlame24 said:

You have no heartbreaking germany suffers arguments

Sadly not at the moment.

 

 I will keep u up to date

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29 minutes ago, TheKomrade said:

T-80B was well needed to get down in BR, good counter to Germany 8.7/9.0 steamtrain 

Well that's a "gaijin solution" if I've ever seen one, break another BR in some other nation to "fix" the previous broken state in another.

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I gotta admit, this is pretty bad. Their statistics are bunked here.

 

don’t move the M48 down(for Pete’s sake, it’s below the M47!)
 

decompress the BRs and leave the damn thing where it is or move it back up to 7.3.

8 hours ago, AssaultPlazma said:

Jokes on you buddy, I don't play air. Like at all... I've literally never spawned a plane before, hell I don't play even SPAA outside of the early days when no armor is best armor was a meme. 

You should, it crazy OP and under tiered.

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2 hours ago, Panzerzwerg said:

Holy xxxx this company

 

'' German M48 deserves a lower BR than it's American counterpart because it's far less efficient ''

 

'' How is it less efficient than the American version? ''

 

'' It's not just about efficiency, it's about more than that ''

 

'' So how do they differ in efficiency, as well as other aspects? ''

 

'' That's sekrit komrade xaxaxaxxaax )))))))))) )))))))))) ''

 

 

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Just now, Necrons31467 said:

 

'' German M48 deserves a lower BR than it's American counterpart because it's far less efficient ''

 

'' How is it less efficient than the American version? ''

 

'' It's not just about effiiciency, it's about more than that ''

 

'' So how do they differ in efficiency, and other aspects? ''

 

'' That's sekrit komrade xaxaxaxxaax )))))))))) )))))))))) ''

 

 

 It does make sense a bit, the US M48 doesn't fight the same as the German M48, since US and GER can't team up in RB, but still, they should all be 7.3 IMO.

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1 hour ago, BeriY_ said:

 It does make sense a bit, the US M48 doesn't fight the same as the German M48, since US and GER can't team up in RB, but still, they should all be 7.3 IMO.

 

That point is completely void.

If all vehicles in the game were supposedly at their appropriate battle ratings, it wouldn't matter that one side fought a couple different designs, as they're all relatively equal in their capabilities per BR.

 

Instead, we see one side being hand-held for years, and then when that side rather expectedly performs worse thanks to said hand-holding, they get further BR handouts.

It's an endless cycle, one we've already seen with US fighters in Air RB years and years ago.

 

  • US fighters get played as a poor-mans bombers by clueless Allied pilots, they then get shot down by Fritz four minutes into the match after having done absolutely nothing.
  • Gaijin sees these US fighter stats drop like a bricks, so they lower the BR's.
  • Lower BR's means that even less experienced pilots are now in said US fighters, Fritz still kills them as they're licking the deck.
  • Gaijin sees the stats are still dropping, so they lower the BR's even further.
  • Fritz is now killing P-47D's in his 1939 BF 109 E series.

Oh, and as a bonus, Allied fighter pilot newbie #7891 goes to forums to complain about how OP German aircraft are.

 

You can switch ''US fighter'' with ''Average Tiger tank player'', and switch ''Fritz'' with ''Average US tanker'' as you please.

 

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19 hours ago, TheKomrade said:

Seems like Gaijin have a crush on Germany lately :lol2:

 

T-80B was well needed to get down in BR, good counter to Germany 8.7/9.0 steamtrain 

Hmst, yes, remember when you asked what I was doing in that thread, i will ask you the same, what are you doing here. No matter tho, T-80B's drop in BR is as much of a mistake as lowering M48A2C, both should stay where they currently are.

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2 hours ago, BeriY_ said:

 It does make sense a bit, the US M48 doesn't fight the same as the German M48, since US and GER can't team up in RB, but still, they should all be 7.3 IMO.

Under that logic, the German KV-1B, captured Churchill, T-34and all American tanks in the italian tank tree should have a higher BR, because they are fighting more tanks that can't withstand their firepower nor can deal with their armor just as effectively as Germany can.

 

But somehow german captured tanks got to club and their event and premiums managed to avoid having BR adjustments, but not only the US versions on the German tank tree is getting lower BR, but tanks like the T20 have been moved from 5.0 to now 6.0.

 

It was already sketchy that the German M48 had smoke grenades, gunner NVD and no ammo on the turret and better reverse gear in exchange for 80mm less armor 8n parts of the turret and slightly worse acceleration, having a 0.3 BR lower, now Gaijin wants it at 0.7 BRs lower because statistics say the average players on it are downright terrible .

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40 minutes ago, SlayerMkX said:

Under that logic, the German KV-1B, captured Churchill, T-34and all American tanks in the italian tank tree should have a higher BR, because they are fighting more tanks that can't withstand their firepower nor can deal with their armor just as effectively as Germany can.

 

But somehow german captured tanks got to club and their event and premiums managed to avoid having BR adjustments, but not only the US versions on the German tank tree is getting lower BR, but tanks like the T20 have been moved from 5.0 to now 6.0.

 

It was already sketchy that the German M48 had smoke grenades, gunner NVD and no ammo on the turret and better reverse gear in exchange for 80mm less armor 8n parts of the turret and slightly worse acceleration, having a 0.3 BR lower, now Gaijin wants it at 0.7 BRs lower because statistics say the average players on it are downright terrible .

Yes, yes they should. The difference is that the armour actually matters at that tier and they will pretty much become useless. That’s the only reason I can think of why they weren’t moved up.
 

the T20 was wayyy to good at 5.0 that being said, 6.0 is overkill. It might have a good win rate and KD but it wasn’t really a issue.

 

M48 at 6.7 doesn’t make any sense to me. 7.0 is fine.

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20 hours ago, Burgermankillz said:

So good that you have this stats in it: :crazy:

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Someone has worse stats than me in the m48 huh, maybe they just haven’t gotten past the apcr pain grind. Which the acpr stock grind is about the only downside of a m48

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Move down the M48 is a insult for other nations players and complete nosense. The problem is not Germany 6.7 is the actual trash 7.0 to 7.7 lineup in comparision with other nations and the blatantly underired UK 7.0 and France 7.3.

Gaijin shoud move up UK 7.0 and reforce Germany between 7.0 and 7.7. Just fix the mssing armor on M48 and move to 7.3 with the M47 and Bmp 1 give a very good lineup or move down the Maus finally to 7.3 too. Later remove movilty nerf from the Leotrash 1 and add some prototype or bing back the M48 from 8.3 without the APFSDS shell to 7.7 again.

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On 23/01/2021 at 03:55, Loongsheep said:

Still suffering from lack of brain cells:crying:

Yes of course all is a problem of bad players but fo sure your borderline overpowered British tanks they have nothing to do with it the actual debalce of certain nations.

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I always found it funny that Gaijin added the M48A2C in at 7.0, despite the US M48A1 being 7.3.

Then when later confronted about its BR they went "low efficiency etc etc" after giving it APCR stock. 

 

It is pretty frustrating seeing German tanks receive BR reductions again and again while other nations deal with consistent BR increases, repair cost increases and/or just straight up nerfs. 

 

Maybe I should just go back to grinding the German tree, as the British tree is a complete money sink atm. 

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2 hours ago, Flak_Dancer said:

Yes of course all is a problem of bad players but fo sure your borderline overpowered British tanks they have nothing to do with it the actual debalce of certain nations.

Sure, sure, 9.0, 9.7 and 10.7 British tanks that I played almost exclusively to spade the VFM.5 and ADATS (M113) are totally borderline overpowered:016:

 

There is literally JUST ONE BR range where British tanks are above average, and their repair cost is 16000-24000SL each.

 

Maybe next time just ask for auto-win for Germany team. Seriously the current handout isn't far from that.

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On 22/01/2021 at 20:21, MaggyYolokrau1 said:

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BRUH 

but how ?

like its a really good tank i played it a lot with the BMP 

 

Because German teams are total crap, so their winrate is crap so it must be the tanks so lets drop it's BR

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8 hours ago, MTom said:

 

Because German teams are total crap, so their winrate is crap so it must be the tanks so lets drop it's BR

 

I'd say: most TEAMs are totally random in performance, so the German win rates get hit harder due to being the most popular nation.

 

Averages hit German vehicles the most which results in a quicker fall in performance. Less played Nations or vehicles don't quite get effected so much.

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23 hours ago, TheKomrade said:

Seems like Gaijin have a crush on Germany lately :lol2:

 

T-80B was well needed to get down in BR, good counter to Germany 8.7/9.0 steamtrain 

 

how?im not the only one thinking thats bad, even TheEuropeanCanadian thinks its bad. he has way more experience than you do so i think he far more qualified to answer.

how to fix m48 problem? give m48 stock heat-fs and make it 7.3

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1 hour ago, Loongsheep said:

 

There is literally JUST ONE BR range where British tanks are above average,

 

This completely false, all UK tanks with the small exception of top tier are above 50% win ratio and UK 7.0 is even higher with all their tanks above of 70% win ratio. Thats why practically every German and Soviet tank in their range have a crap win ratio. Those tanks are stupid overpowered and need go up. We dont need a M48 in 6.7 or OPject 120 in 7.e just move Centurions and Caernarvon higher.

 

1 hour ago, Loongsheep said:

Maybe next time just ask for auto-win for Germany team. Seriously the current handout isn't far from that.

Caernarvorn have higher win ratio than any german top tier...

 

1 hour ago, Loongsheep said:

and their repair cost is 16000-24000SL each.

With absurd high win ratios meanwhile German tanks with trash win ratios and plus high repair cost ???

 

3 hours ago, SovereignEagle said:

as the British tree is a complete money sink atm. 

:lol2: sureeeee, UK 7.0 is a silvier lions and golden eagles printer, the most easy to play tanks right now.

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Both Germans and Russians are getting hand holding this BR patch. 

 

Object 120 down to 7.3

T-80B down to 9.7 

M48 down to 6.7

 

It makes your skin crawl when you think how they're doing that. Just the fact that the Object 120 will sit .3 higher than the Ho-Ri Production makes your stomach turn. Just laughable. 

If Japan was getting the same treatment as Germany and Russia, the Type 60 MAT would sit at 5.3, the Ho-Ri Prototype would be at 5.3, the Ho-Ri Production would be at 6.0 or 6.3, but alas only couple of nations enjoy the luxury of being Gaijins pet. 

 

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Gaijin should really have a thought about revamping the whole BR-evaluation system and focus more on a vehicle's capability and not just player performace.

This is really unacceptable, a M48 at 6.7 should never happen.

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Just played German 6.7 (trying to grind Jpz 4-5)

 

Holy xxxx 

Matchmaking completely trashes you.

 

One of these two happens most of the time:

GER/IT/RU vs UK/US/FRA

GER/(IT) vs US/UK/RU/FRA/japan

 

 

 

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