Jump to content

Affected vehicle(s): MiG-21PFM

 

Issue: MiG-21PFM is missing modifications and loadouts for R-3R.

 

CLOG: 2020_11_28_16_53_20__26708.clog

 

Fix(es) required: As the MiG-21PFM is currently already modeled with an RP-22 radar in-game, the only change required is the addition of the 2x R-3R missile loadout and modifications for it. (Should be added directly under the R-3S in the bellow photo, and require the R-3S to be purchased already to research).

vxowcxp9z1661.png?width=1024&format=png&

 

Notes : 

The MiG-21PFM Type 77 was a testbed (serial number N76210725) and was used to test the R-3R air-to-air missile as well as the RP-22S radar. The technology developed would be applied to future MiG-21s in Soviet service. It would enter later with other changes (more pylons, SPO-2 RWR) as MiG-21S. This should qualify the RP-22S and R-3R as a modification for the MiG-21PFM as this is the same situation that the Harrier GR.1's SRAAMs are in, and they are in-game for it. This is not to be confused with the Indian Airfo rce MiG-21PF Type 77 which used a different radar (RP-21) and the older engine of F-13. 

 

Here are some photos of MiG-21PFM N76210725 with the R-3R visibly fitted (note, the caption as MiG-21PF is wrong, you can see from the tail planes and my other sources that it is a PFM). Further, it cannot be the Indian Type 77 as those were not built in Russia, but under license in India (and those could not fit R-3R as they used the older radar): 

pfm.thumb.PNG.7c51eb20e65fa4cf98135516fa

 

This source makes clear mention of the MiG-21PFM Type 77 both having the RP-22 radar and being a PFM. It further clarifies any misconceptions that could be had about the fact that this aircraft was indeed Russian, not Indian.

RP-22PFM.thumb.PNG.9b1ae709ccc0b3a0bf869

 

Further, the RP-22S does not affect the ability for the plane to fire the Kh-66 or RS-2US beam-riding missiles. More information on this subject here: eHQS8Wx.png

 

Sources: 

 

Books:

   Yefim Gordon "Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21: Famous Russian Aircraft "

     Book used for above photos of MiG-21PFM N76210725. Page #109.

     Cover photo: 

41TLYvfmvNL._SX375_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

 

  Yefim Gordon "Soviet/Russian Aircraft Weapons Since World War II"

    Book used for info on Kh-66, RS-2US and their ability to be guided by planes with RP-22S radar. Page #116.

    Cover photo:

cover.thumb.PNG.c9c9b51c205803a172d37a80

 

Photos: 

12-1.jpg

  From website http://aviadejavu.ru/Site/Crafts/Craft19985-3.htm which is an archival site for photos and captions of Soviet aircraft test programs. It confirms this plane is serial N76210725 (use control+F for "N 76210725") and clearly shows it to be a PFM (2 pylons and distinctive saddle fuel tank, revised tail) and fitting R-3R (missile is clearly visible).

 

 

Websites:

    Site makes very clear that MiG-21PFM Type 77 was indeed a PFM and not a PF/FL/PFS. https://www.polot.net/en/mikojan_i_guriewicz_mig_21_pfm/historia

 

   Site makes it very clear that some MiG-21PFMs with RP-21M could also fire R-3R. http://www.airvectors.net/avmig21_1.html

Edited by CMDR_Atkinson
1) spelling error "fixe(s)" to "fix(es)" , 2) correction of errors regarding MiG-21PFM Type 77 , 3) update of required changes , 4) cleaned up sources , clarification of change
medal medal medal medal medal

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Our consultants have checked the image presented so far of the experimental variant of the PF/PFM and given us the following information today:

 

Quote

"This is a unique, experimental PF/PFM equipped with RP-22 radar , while production aircraft have RP-21M and cannot carry R-3R. This is also evident as the experimental variant has the F-13 style canopy, whilst our PFM has the later style one thats correct for the Soviet PFM"

 

As such with the current sources, R-3R is not possible on the MiG-21PFM variant we have in game.

  • Confused 5
  • Upvote 7

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...