IXWA Strike - Next major update - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion

[magazine2 5,953]

 

Welcome to the War Thunder - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion thread!

 

Here you can discuss everything related to the new update - such as rumors and other related discussions.

 

Please avoid these types of discussions:

 

-Wish listing -  there's a separate thread for that  here

-Specifics of vehicle specs like armour, ammo, guns, data sheets -  you can make a thread  here

-Bug reports -  you can make a thread  here

 

Not avoiding these discussions will result in your post hidden by a moderator.

 

Please use the  New Power update thread to discuss Update "New Power". Complaining here won't solve anything. 

FAQ

 

Q: What is this thread about?

A:  This thread is about the upcoming patch  and future content.

 

Q: Will you add...?

A: No. We are no developers, just nosy players.

 

Q: Why isn't [vehicle] on the list?

A: Either because there is no evidence that this vehicle will be added, or because no one told me that there is such evidence.

 

Q: Why is [vehicle/feature] on the Denied list?

A: Because said feature or vehicle was denied by Gaijin developers or their representatives at some point in the past.

 

Q: Where did my post go?

A: Off-Topic comments will often be hidden (not deleted) to keep this thread readable and on topic. No need to be alarmed or comment on the disappearing post(s), if concerned then PM Forum Moderators or Seniors.

 

Q: When will we get the patch?

A: Currently our best guess is between February of 2021.

 

Q: What if I don't want to read all these pages to find out what will come?

A: Read the OP. I and moderators will frequently update it with new information.

 

List of stuff related to next update, what we know so far:

 

This is the list of stuff we know has been confirmed, plausible, denied and also data mine related stuff to the next update.

 

Likely

Spoiler

Stuff from the dreadnought trailer that is harder to identify for certain. Apologies for the lack of specific sources.

Ships:  Alaska class Cruiser 

 

Plausible

Recent Datamines:

Spoiler

 

 

General overview of stuff collected over the last few updates, updated regularly:

Stuff that has been confirmed officially by Gaijin will have " Confirmed: " in front of it.

 

 

Aircraft:

 

Spoiler

Aircraft general

• Drop tank mechanics (CDK finds, however currently not deemed necessary by developers)
• Developing missile battle system beyond visual range - Source 
• swing wing mechanics
• Mavericks being worked on Source

 

US aircraft

• PV-2 (CDK finds) - Source
• Confirmed: B-26 Marauder being worked on - Source
• PBM-5a (data finds, removed from files since) - Source 1  / Source 2
• F-8 Crusader - The AIM-9C is mentioned in the files. The AIM-9C was only used on the F-8. The other other plane that fired them was a modifed F3D-2M in testing in China Lake - Source
• Chances of adding A-10 is good - Source
• F-8A Crusader - Source
• F-89J - Source
• F-89C (30 mm) - Source
• F-89C (Rockets) - Source
• J2M3 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added)
• P-66 - Source 1 / Source 2
• A-35B - Source 1 / Source 2
• F6F-3 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: the F6F-5 came instead, unused since then)
• PBJ-1J-1 - Source 1 / Source 2
• PV-2 - Source 1 / Source 2
• SB2C-5 - Source 1 / Source 2
• TBD-1 (1937) - Source 1 / Source 2
• F-82G   - Source  tech tree picture picture found in the files
• remodel F-4E with maneuvering wing slats - Source

 

German aircraft

• B-17 G - Source 1 / Source 2   / Source 3 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added)
• MiG-3 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added)
• Mosquito FB Mk. VI - Source 1 / Source 2  / Source 3 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added)
• P-39Q-5 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added)
• P-51B - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added)
• Pe-2-359 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added)
• Bf 110C-4 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: the C-7 came in its stead in 1.79, unused since then)
• H-75A-2 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4
• H-75A-4 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4
• B-24D  - Source  tech tree picture picture found in the files
• IL-4  - Source  tech tree picture picture found in the files
• P-38G  - Source  tech tree picture picture found in the files
• P-51D-5   - Source  tech tree picture picture found in the files
• Typhoon Mk. Ib   - Source  tech tree picture picture found in the files
• Typhoon Mk. Ib/late  - Source  tech tree picture picture found in the files

 

Russian/Soviet aircraft

• BI-6 - Source
• MiG-23
• I250 - Source
• La-7r - Source
• MiG-19S (CDK find) - Source
• Confirmed: MiG-21 variants - planned several more versions, and they are being worked on already - Source
• Chances of adding Su-25 is good - Source
• DI-6 - Source
• IL-20 - Source
• Yak-25 - Source
• I-215 - Source
• VI-100 - Source
• R-10 - Source
• Tu-12 - Source
• MDR-6 - Source
• PBY-5 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added)
• DB-3A - Source 1 / Source 2
• Gudkov K-37 - Source 1 / Source 2
• I-16 Type 17 - Source 1 / Source 2
• LaGG-3-1 - Source 1 / Source 2
• LaGG-3-29 - Source 1 / Source 2
• MiG-15bis (NS-23) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4
• SB-2M-100a (Spain) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 
• MiG-3U  - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files

 

Great British aircraft

• Spitfire IX If c (data finds, removed from files since) - Source 1  / Source 2
• Lincoln B Mk I (data finds) - Source 1 / Source 2
• Whirlwind Mk II - Source
• Early Seafires - Source
• Maryland Mk I (data finds) - Source 1  / Source 2
• Shackleton MR.Mk 1 (data finds) - Source 1 / Source 2
• Welkin Mk.I (data finds, removed from files since) - Source 1  / Source 2
• Welkin Mk.I late (data finds, removed from files since) - Source 1  / Source 2
• Bf 109F-4 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added)
• Boston Mk. II - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added)
• J2M3 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added)
• Catalina Mk. I - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added)
• Catalina Mk. I RAAF - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added)
• Hurricane Mk. I - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: the Hurricane Mk. I/late came in its stead, unused since the n)
• Mustang Mk. IA (p_51_mk1a) - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: the current one uses the p_51b model)
• H-75A-4 (Mohawk IV) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4
• Havoc Mk. I Pandora - Source 1 / Source 2
• Intruder Mk. II - Source 1 / Source 2
• Mustang Mk. I - Source 1 / Source 2

 

Japanese aircraft

• Confirmed: F-4EJ Kai is being worked on - Source
• J5N2 - Source
• Ki-64 - Source
• Ki-74 - Source
• Ki-88 - Source
• H8K1 - Source
• H8K4 - Source
• LaGG-3-8 - Source 1 / Source 2 (note: been in the files for years, unlikely to be added)
• Ki-45 ko tei - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4
• Ki-45 hei tei - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 
• G4M1 pre-1943
• G5N2 - Source
• G8N2 - Source 1 / Source 2
• Ki-43-III ko - Source 1 / Source 2

 

Chinese aircraft

• Chinese P-36 found in CDK - Source
• H-75A-5 - Source 1 / Source 2
• H-75M - Source 1 / Source 2
• A6M5 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4 
• B-17 - Source 1 / Source 2
• La-7 - Source 1 / Source 2
• Pe-2-359 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4
• D.510C - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4
• P-26A-35 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4
• MiG-15bis (NS-23)  - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files
• SB-2 (M-103U) (MV-3)  - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files

 

Italian aircraft

• D.520 - Source 1 / Source 2
• Re.2000 G.A. Red 5 - Source

 

French aircraft

• F-8E (FN) Crusader - Source 
• H-75A-1 (1939) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4
• H-75A-2 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4
• H-75A-3 - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files
• H-75A-3 (Vichy) - Source 1 / Source 2
• F.1 unlikely to come in next patch - Source

 

Swedish aircraft

• Potential Swedish air tree candidates (pure guess work), Finnish ones, found in files - Source
• Confirmed:  Viggen is in the works - Source: 1.95 test server livestream
• Pe-3bis - Source 1 / Source 2
• H-75A-1 (Finland) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4
• H-75A-3 (Finland) - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files
• H-75A-4 (Finland) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4
• H-75A-6 (Finland) - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files
• J 34 Hunter - Source

 

Other aircraft

• The Netherlands: B-25J-30 - Source 1 / Source 2
• H-75A-7 (NL) - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files
• H-75N (Thai) - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files

 

Ground forces:

 

Spoiler

Ground forces general

• Regenerative steering - Source
• Time fused shells - Source 1 / Source 2
• Damage model of wheeled vehicles for damage to suspension and wheels - Source
• Single player ground campaign in the works - Source
• New Japan map - Source
• More wheeled vehicles - Source

 

US ground forces

• M4A4 (data finds) - Source 1 / Source 2
• M3A3 (data finds) - Source
• M103A2 (possible) - Source

 

German ground forces

• Pz.35t Romania Mare premium (CDK and data finds) - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3
• East-German T-72M1 is possible - Source
• Puma IFV - Source

 

Russian/Soviet ground forces

• BA-3 - Source
• BA-6 - Source
• More armoured cars - Source
• PT-76  - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files
• SU-76D  - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files

 

Great British ground forces

• Cruiser Tank, Ram II - Source 1 / Source 2

 

Japanese ground forces

• More Type 74 models, such as Type 74 F - Source

 

Chinese ground forces

• Confirmed:  ZTZ99A - Source
• Confirmed:  ZTZ63A - Source
• Confirmed:  Type 79 - Source
• Confirmed:  PGZ88 - Source
• Confirmed:  Sd Kfz 222 - Source
• Confirmed:  Type 59-II - Source
• ZTZ-69-IIa - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3 / Source 4
• More Chinese SPAA this year (2020) - Source
• BT-5 - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files
• Ha-Go - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files
• T-34-85 (D-5T) - Source 1 / Source 2 tech tree picture and stat card picture found in the files

 

Italian ground forces

• 75/34 M43 with BREDA 8mm MG's on top - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3
• Plans to add more ground vehicles between 4.3 - 6.0 - Source 

 

French ground forces

• AMX-50 1950 - Source 1 / Source 2 / Source 3
• Citroën-Kégresse P19T - Source 1 / Source 2

 

Swedish ground forces

• Strv m/41 S-I - Source
• Str v 74 (Rb 52)  - Source
• Strv 122b - Source

 

Naval:

 

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Naval general

• New naval game modes - Source

• Texture updates for PT boats' 37mm M4. - Source

• tt_tta53_50_533mm for Riga class frigates.
• turret_127mm_mk32 is a slightly more modern 5 inch side arm for U.S. cruisers. - (Source)
• turret_140mm_50_type3_twin was for the experimental IJN CL Yubari and as some minelayers or seaplane tenders. - (Source)
• turret_203mm_mk12_triple was used on some of the more modern US heavy cruisers, namely the Wichita/Baltimore/Oregon City classes. - (Source)
• turret_130mm_bl109a_twin and turret_305mm_sm31_triple? - used on "Stalingrad" class Heavy Cruiser(Source)

 

US navy

• Alaska - Source

 

German navy

• Scharnhorst - Source 1 / Source 2

 

Russian/Soviet navy

• Kronshtadt - Source
• Oktyabrskaya Revolutsiya - Source  
• "9M39 Igla on MPK pr.12412 currently WIP, to receive feature in a future update"

 

Great British navy

• Section empty

 

Japanese navy

• Section empty

 

Chinese navy

• Confirmed: Plans for the Chinese navy - Source

 

Italian navy

• MS74 Serie 2a (Torpedoboat)  - Source

 

French navy

• Section empty

 

Swedish navy

• Section empty

 

Helicopters:

 

Spoiler

General helicopters

• Section empty

 

US helicopters

• YAH-64 images were accidentally uploaded to the PS4 store.
• YAH-64 was in the Ka-50's dev blog clip by mistake - Source

 

German helicopters

• Section empty

 

Russian/Soviet helicopters

• Section empty

 

Great British helicopters

• Confirmed: Plans to develop the British helicopter research tree - Source
• Confirmed: Considering more helicopters, specifically the Westland Wessex - Source

 

Japanese helicopters

• Section empty

 

Chinese helicopters

• Plans for Chinese helicopter research tree (might come in 2021) - Source 1 / Source 2

 

Italian helicopters

• Section empty

 

French helicopters

• Section empty

 

Swedish helicopters

• Swedish helicopter tree "most likely" - Source

 

Other helicopters

• Mi-24 Superhind not excluded as a possibility - Source
• Denel Rooivalk not excluded as a possibility - Source
• T129 ATAK not excluded as a possibility - Source

 

Submarines:

 

Spoiler

General submarines

• Submarines unclear - Q&A so far said either "not now" or "not yet". Submarines might come eventually since they were in April Fools 2018.
• Submarines might be in the works due to this evidence: - Source

 

Other:

 

Spoiler

Other general

• One developer has plans for helicopter EC - Source
• Volokolamsk will come back after being re-worked - Source
• Cluster bombs coming at some stage - Source

 

Unclear:

 

Spoiler

General unclear

• OV-10A unclear - being worked on by Nova, it's a possible candidate.

 

[efetenekeci 787]

More Italian Helicopters!!!!

[Draco_Argentum 757]

Welcome to the new MiG-23/APFSDS minutia spam thread. I'm going to use this post for the compiled confirmed denied list.

 

Confirmed

Ratel 90 Source

Spoiler

Ratel ZT3-A2 Source

Fist dev server patch notes Source

SA tree is a 5th line in the UK ground tree Source

Olifant Source

SMS Kaiser Source

M3A3 Bradley Source

HMS Blackpool Source

Fokker D.XXI Source and its in the Swedish beginner pack Source

 

Dev Stream Summary Source

Teaser Video Summary here

 

Vague Confirmations

US to get an aircraft Source

 

 

Plausible

A British aircraft that isn't worth a devblog if its ready in time. Source

France to get something similar to the SK-105 if its ready for this patch Source

Chinese Helicopters, they didn't make it to 2020 but haven't been cancelled as far as we know. Source

 

Denied - Where dreams go to die.

No F-8 Source

 

 

Spoiler

Russian top tier MBT Source

No US ground vehicles that weren't on Dev server 1 Source

No new helis Source

Nothing after 1st dev server for Germany and Italy Source

Chinese Radar SPAA Source

Dardo IFV Source

No SA aircraft Source

No B-26 Source

No F-5 for USA Source

No Puma IFV Source

MiG-27 Source

No other Dutch stuff Source

No Chinese Beginner pack Source

Viggen Source

No AMX Ghibli Source

French Ships Source

Brazil Source

F-14 and Su-57 Source

XF10F, Bell X-5 and P.1101 Source

F-4F pretty much a no from this Source

Tornado and F-16 Source

Harrier II Source

Probably no top BR British plane Source

Mirage G8 Source

No pre-order packs Source

MiG-23 Source

Mirage F1 Source

F-111 Source

 

Edited yesterday at 00:46 by Draco_Argentum

[Ruthless95 954]

sweden gets its 8th spaa while france italy and japan sit with 5 and 6

 

like why?

[ACOMETS 159]

23 hours ago, magazine2 said:

• Developing missile battle system beyond visual range - Source 
•  

 

23 hours ago, magazine2 said:

• Mavericks being worked on Source

 

new thingies . 

 

23 hours ago, magazine2 said:

M3A3

@magazine2 is this the M3Lee or bradley?

[__Renzo__ 1,246]

5 minutes ago, ACOMETS said:

 

new thingies . 

 

@magazine2 is this the M3Lee or bradley?

Could also mean M3A3 Stuart which is already in game for some nations iirc. 

[Privat_Moritz 232]

5 minutes ago, ACOMETS said:

 

new thingies . 

 

@magazine2 is this the M3Lee or bradley?

think the Bradley

[PlanyKaanere 350]

It will be a few months until we get more info on the next update - will we manage to get to a thousand pages by the end?

 

9 minutes ago, ACOMETS said:

 

@magazine2 is this the M3Lee or bradley?

 

Follow the link, it's the M3A3 Stuart.

[[email protected] 44]

Can Gaijin stop forcing China and Russia in the same team in the next update?

[stefancc1701 36]

I just hope that there will be some tech tree vehicles for the italian navy in the next update since we only got two premiums in the last two updates

[efetenekeci 787]

We haven't got our yearly rank 1 premium this update.

[katehsunT415 21]

Hope Gaijin can give us all the swing wing toys（f-14.f-111,mig-23,su-17,su-24,tornados etc.)at March

[Capt_Rodgers 1,694]

We can surely say that we’ll see more superdreadnoughts next patch thanks to addition of IJN Hyuga

[Privat_Moritz 232]

F8 Crusader

[stefancc1701 36]

2 minutes ago, Capt_Rodgers said:

We can surely say that we’ll see more superdreadnoughts next patch thanks to addition of IJN Hyuga

And of course they will be 6.0 because balance

[Capt_Rodgers 1,694]

Just now, stefancc1701 said:

And of course they will be 6.0 because balance

Of course. It doesn’t matter that Hyuga has almost twice as big displacement as early dreadnoughts. But finally we’re reaching first WW2 battleships

[Cedjoe 3,709]

Hello there 

Spoiler

 

 

I guess we might see chinese helis next patch? And maybe that french thing that wasn't finished in time for the update.

 

edit : It's very nice to see the Gazelles finally got their cockpit with a sight, we can finally aim in SB 

Hopefully they do the Alouette III next.

Edited December 18, 2020 by Cedjoe

[wulfalier 2,110]

Ey finally should i start to save money for Mitsubishi? .

[LeadbomberofB17 82]

Just now, wulfalier said:

Ey finally should i start to save money for Mitsubishi? .

Which product are u talking about?

[Wolf_89 1,852]

1 minute ago, Cedjoe said:

Hello there 

Reveal hidden contents

 

 

I guess we might see chinese helis next patch? And maybe that french thing that wasn't finished in time for the update.

Id prefer if they finally adds high tier Chinese SPAA.

Something China really needs.

[Cedjoe 3,709]

Just now, Wolf_89 said:

Id prefer if they finally adds high tier Chinese SPAA.

Something China really needs.

Oh yeah of course

[wulfalier 2,110]

1 minute ago, LeadbomberofB17 said:

Which product are u talking about?

I dont know,it is light,fast,sexy and can spit shells every 3,5sec 

[LeadbomberofB17 82]

Just now, wulfalier said:

I dont know,it is light,fast,sexy and can spit shells every 3,5sec 

Cute for sure as well~

[Stephensan 244]

without trying start anything, can someone check if "hot track" naval visual secondary shooting are even more bugged or not? (secondary's shooting at completely nothing criss cross, shooting straight up etc.. but the enemy team sees something different)...

i'm still updating and won't be able to check for a while more

[TheAntiAirGuy 1,504]

Would you look at that?

 

Once Gaijin actually decides to add something interesting to this nation, people actaully play it?! No way, wonder why people didn't bother ever touching this nation, might be because it lacks some actually interesting vehicles?

Now that they have a 10.7Br vehicle (which I am thankfull for), it becomes very apparent what they lack, some proper high-tier SPAAG! No matter how good your MBTs is, CAS will eat you up

Edited December 18, 2020 by TheAntiAirGuy