Naval Enduring Confrontation - Development Update

[Gunship 507]

If I think back to the EC event before Christmas, I recall that we would get some lag when especially destroyers with long range torps were spamming them from the spawn point, this may be another performance issue the developers will need to make some kind of fix for.

[Conte_Baracca 4,539]

Oh look.  Battle Cruisers in 2.01 confirmed.

[Stephensan 1,346]

14 minutes ago, Conte_Baracca said:

Oh look.  Battle Cruisers in 2.01 confirmed.

i mean is that a bad thing? you don't know what is in store, americans/british/russain/japan could easily get some battlecrusiers with a new research line/ redesign with an re-design of rewards, (making top tier worth playing when you do 7+++ kills.) (if they are smart) to make naval thrive again i honestly cannot wait for the Alaska for Americans, Kongō for Japan, The Mackensen-class for Germany and other great ships, but there is an issue with that, there is no real way to balance out battlecruisers without MAJOR decompression adding more ships to fill in the gaps and honest "testing" without having the 

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Q. The Admiral Graf Spee and the Prinz Eugen/Admiral Hipper class have remained a dominant power in Naval Forces since they were first introduced. Most nations still don't really have balanced counterparts to them which can make gameplay very one sided against them. Do you have any plans you can share with us to address this matter and prevent such a situation from occurring in future? 

Their combat efficiency is no different from similar ships nevertheless. Most of the gaming nations have 8’’ guns, similar to the Hipper - sometimes slightly better, or slightly worse. Graf Spee is outstanding here, but its high calibre is compensated with a higher reload time. So we can’t agree with this observation.

 

Issue again.


Most players that saw this response laughed and mocked the very saying of this with most of it going towards "Most of the gaming nations have 8’’ guns" and "Graf Spee is outstanding here, but its high calibre is compensated with a higher reload time", we as the players saw the Graf Spee come into the game with no counterpart and completely smash the competition and angered what little small community that has been top tier naval to a point, when adding the Crew Loss, and ammo that just combusts, that it would not fix the issue of that ship so now, anyone that see's a Graf Spee will focus fire it down no matter the cost nor ships lost to remove an ship stands out from the rest with its sheer size, gun fire power, amour and crew complement just out of sheer spite/anger.. That being said the "high calibre is compensated with a higher reload time" is a shameful way to bring out a ship that can cripple almost 1/3 of a ship if not take it out entirely, without ANY counterpart...

Don't get me wrong the "meta" has change to american 6 inch due to the Combust Part....

If that ramble did not make sense, a TLDR is, please in the name what ever "testing" that they do, before the LIVE server receives the new content, make sure that the ships "slow reload speed" does not make it completely fine to put into a BR way lower than it should be, with no counterpart, and vise versa don't put a ship with a "slow reload speed" to a BR way to high to a point where it cannot preform correctly.. If you don't know where it should go (ask us the players!)

Please don't worry about what i said or if it made much sense at all, the very first part is whats really important... im not trying stick my nose somewhere where the devs will try to fight over me what i said..~desu
 

[[email protected] 189]

Thanks for the heads up. I appreciate communication.

 

Hopefully that will solve the lag and low FPS and mid matches server down amongst other problems. 

[Fireraid233 4,252]

Im looking forward to it. Even with bugs it's still a far more enjoyable and better game mode then the current ones we have. Im sure they can even make some PT boats work in that mode. Any way im looking forward to the improvements on it and hopefully EC os where naval will be at for the future especially with plans for bigger ships.

[Yukichi 1,027]

I guess we won't see Air Enduring Confration any time soon, or any update of Air RB game mode.

Still a good news for naval players. The communication is a very good thing.

 

Edited August 12, 2020 by Yukichi

[kkang2828 1,435]

Very good to see that you guys are trying to communicate and not leave us in the dark. I'll try to grind to the destroyers before the next major update.

[Magiaconatus 1,670]

I would kindly add many of you might have overlooked, that without a few of us pinging, asking, "whining" about the absence of EC ever since April through various channels, this message would have never been made.

So be mindful when you give Gaijin credit for actually telling the community about their plans/progress.

[Stephensan 1,346]

perhaps, and true

[IesousEinaiTheos 460]

Wonder if they get EC going in time for all the new Maxim Gorky's there will be???

Coincidence? I think not 

[Conte_Baracca 4,539]

18 hours ago, Stephensan said:

i mean is that a bad thing? you don't know what is in store, americans/british/russain/japan could easily get some battlecrusiers with a new research line/ redesign with an re-design of rewards, (making top tier worth playing when you do 7+++ kills.) (if they are smart) to make naval thrive again i honestly cannot wait for the Alaska for Americans, Kongō for Japan, The Mackensen-class for Germany and other great ships, but there is an issue with that, there is no real way to balance out battlecruisers without MAJOR decompression adding more ships to fill in the gaps and honest "testing" without having the 

Issue again.
 

Oh I am looking forward to it.  I'm just saying that all of these posts indicate Battlecruisers are HIGHLY likely for 2.01.  I can't wait.  Well....assuming Gaijin makes positive changes to Naval RB.

[IesousEinaiTheos 460]

3 minutes ago, Conte_Baracca said:

Oh I am looking forward to it.  I'm just saying that all of these posts indicate Battlecruisers are HIGHLY likely for 2.01.  I can't wait.  Well....assuming Gaijin makes positive changes to Naval RB.

There have already been interviews dating back to 2019 about battle cruisers being planned for the end of 2020, maybe 2021 if things do not go perfectly and need to be delayed.

But with Russia getting their first 5.7 available for non-grinders... I think Battle Cruisers are not far off. Hopefully they start light because stuff like the Alaska would slaughter almost everything...

[Conte_Baracca 4,539]

6 minutes ago, Hikotai said:

There have already been interviews dating back to 2019 about battle cruisers being planned for the end of 2020, maybe 2021 if things do not go perfectly and need to be delayed.

But with Russia getting their first 5.7 available for non-grinders... I think Battle Cruisers are not far off. Hopefully they start light because stuff like the Alaska would slaughter almost everything...

I am aware of the interviews.......

 

[Fireraid233 4,252]

3 hours ago, Hikotai said:

There have already been interviews dating back to 2019 about battle cruisers being planned for the end of 2020, maybe 2021 if things do not go perfectly and need to be delayed.

But with Russia getting their first 5.7 available for non-grinders... I think Battle Cruisers are not far off. Hopefully they start light because stuff like the Alaska would slaughter almost everything...

Or get instantly ammo blown because of DM...

[shimon_barkokhba 129]

what is ec anyway? but if it help my grind im all for it

[Conte_Baracca 4,539]

12 hours ago, shimon_barkokhba said:

what is ec anyway? but if it help my grind im all for it

Enduring Confrontation.  It's larger maps, more AI, longer games, aimed at ships 4.3 and above.  In the opinion of most players it is a vastly superior game mode for Cruisers (and soon above) then the standard battles.

[WinterHt 82]

On 14/08/2020 at 07:08, shimon_barkokhba said:

what is ec anyway? but if it help my grind im all for it

Answering the second part of your question, yes, it usually did help with grind too, as a multi-hour session of EC match would usualy result in pretty decent RP and SL rewards, especially if you did well and/or your team won.

[Smin1080p 60,274]

On 13/08/2020 at 11:50, Magiaconatus said:

I would kindly add many of you might have overlooked, that without a few of us pinging, asking, "whining" about the absence of EC ever since April through various channels, this message would have never been made.

So be mindful when you give Gaijin credit for actually telling the community about their plans/progress.

 

This message as I said was always planned to come for some time. I made it very clear when we have news to share properly we would. This update was always planned to be made, it was a matter of time and development factors. 

 

As I explained to you previously, whining or hostility was not going to speed that up in any way  I reminded you that we were working on it and would share news when we could. All you were in fact doing was just mocking the messenger, not changing any of the facts or development at all. 

 

We fully appreciate frustrations why it has been gone for so long, but thats because we are trying to work on the previously raised issues and improve the quality of the mode overall. 

[Rieskaruisku 506]

Is there any chance of getting EC map that is not just mind numbing massive open water area where you have to sail 15 minutes just to get into the firing distance or getting your **** blasted by some American floating fortress that can insta-delete you from 15km away?

 

I know EC is EC and extra RP is always fun, but some variety and strategic approaches in maps would be fun also.

[Stavroforos 15,312]

2 minutes ago, Rieskaruisku said:

Is there any chance of getting EC map that is not just mind numbing massive open water area where you have to sail 15 minutes just to get into the firing distance or getting your **** blasted by some American floating fortress that can insta-delete you from 15km away?

 

I know EC is EC and extra RP is always fun, but some variety and strategic approaches in maps would be fun also.

That's the whole point of EC, to avoid the artificial maps which exist in Arcade and Realistic and the stupidity of each team shooting at eachother from the moment they spawn. 

[Magiaconatus 1,670]

56 minutes ago, Smin1080p said:

This message as I said was always planned to come for some time. I made it very clear when we have news to share properly we would. This update was always planned to be made, it was a matter of time and development factors. 

Mmm-hmm. Yeah, just like the statistical data that is only available to you and only you, and shows that everything is fine. This is the kind of argument that you have just used. If nobody can verify the reality of what you are saying, then the truth is whatever Gaijin wants it to be. So, please reserve the right to doubt Gaijin on this, will you?

It has been discussed to death. Nobody is mocking anybody because they are bullies, like it or anything.  But because either Gaijin doesn't let you make us know, or Gaijin does not even tell you in more details what is going on in the background. Gaijin is mocked by me and the entirety of the community because their answers are frivolous with no substance. Either they open up for disclosing more to you and letting you make comments or announcements on literally any issue, or face the music. Period.

 

29 minutes ago, Rieskaruisku said:

Is there any chance of getting EC map that is not just mind numbing massive open water area where you have to sail 15 minutes just to get into the firing distance or getting your **** blasted by some American floating fortress that can insta-delete you from 15km away?

 

I know EC is EC and extra RP is always fun, but some variety and strategic approaches in maps would be fun also.

There is game mode for that already. It's called Naval Realistic battles. The insta-delete has nothing to do with EC or the map sizes, but rather ammunition detonations.

Extra RP has already been taken away from EC, only +50% SL booster remains. The rewards are basically on par with normal RB.

Edited August 16, 2020 by Magiaconatus

[Smin1080p 60,274]

1 minute ago, Magiaconatus said:

Mmm-hmm. Yeah, just like the statistical data that is only available to you and only you, and shows that everything is fine. This is the kind of argument that you have just used. If nobody can verify the reality of what you are saying, then the truth is whatever Gaijin wants it to be. So, please reserve the right to doubt Gaijin on this, will you?

It has been discussed to death. Nobody is mocking anybody because they are bullies, like it or anything.  But because either doesn't let you make us know, or Gaijin does not even tell you in more details what is going on in the background. Gaijin is mocked by me and the entirety of the community because their answers are frivolous with no substance. Either they open up for disclosing more to you and letting you make comments or announcements on literally any issue, or face the music. Period.

 

You are entirely fine to hold your own opinions 

 

All im making clear is the facts are clear as day. You are welcome to go back through my posts, I made it very clear that as soon as we could post a note worthy update, we would as we now have. All pinging me did every week was disappoint you more and lead you to get more and more hostile despite the fact we were doing all we could to help. You have made you frustrations very clear. 

[Rieskaruisku 506]

10 minutes ago, Magiaconatus said:

Extra RP has already been taken away from EC, only +50% SL booster remains. The rewards are basically on par with normal RB.

So we are getting just a "default_water_0001: The Map" and small monetary compensation. LOL 

[Conte_Baracca 4,539]

7 hours ago, Rieskaruisku said:

Is there any chance of getting EC map that is not just mind numbing massive open water area where you have to sail 15 minutes just to get into the firing distance or getting your **** blasted by some American floating fortress that can insta-delete you from 15km away?

 

I know EC is EC and extra RP is always fun, but some variety and strategic approaches in maps would be fun also.

 

7 hours ago, Rieskaruisku said:

So we are getting just a "default_water_0001: The Map" and small monetary compensation. LOL 

Not sure why you would even play EC.  Doesn't seem to be your cup of tea.  But for many, many of us the large maps are a KEY selling feature of EC.  That maneuver and positioning is actually a thing.

7 hours ago, Smin1080p said:

 

You are entirely fine to hold your own opinions 

 

All im making clear is the facts are clear as day. You are welcome to go back through my posts, I made it very clear that as soon as we could post a note worthy update, we would as we now have. All pinging me did every week was disappoint you more and lead you to get more and more hostile despite the fact we were doing all we could to help. You have made you frustrations very clear. 

So the "soon" post you made a couple of months ago?  

 

Regardless we are here now.

 

But please don't pretend the message hasn't changed multiple times.  It has.  

 

[Smin1080p 60,274]

4 minutes ago, Conte_Baracca said:

So the "soon" post you made a couple of months ago?  

 

Indeed, because it was intended to be soon when I said that. Then when further issues arised and I made that clear when they did. Things in game development change, unforeseen issues come up.

 

4 minutes ago, Conte_Baracca said:

But please don't pretend the message hasn't changed multiple times.  It has.  

 

When I said it was intended to be soon thats because it was. From the moment it became clear that there were then further issues, I then made that clear that there were issues, that were being worked on and we would have more news to share on the matter when we could.

 

There is nothing for me to pretend about. We have been keeping everyone as up to date as we can throughout this whole period.