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Anti tank mines where a common issue for tankers during WW2.

 

Does anyone know if there were vehicles used for laying anti tank mines? In any nation.

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Afaik, the concept of mounting specialized mine-laying equipment on vehicles is more cold-war-esque (e.g. the GZM, the Minenwerfer Skorpion or the Shielder Minelaying System).

There are some WW2 vehicles that had mine-launchers (the four little cups on the Tiger H1 are used to launch S-Mines for example), but those would be used for immediate action and not to secure an area over the long run.

 

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On 14/05/2020 at 02:41, Napolegnom said:

Afaik, the concept of mounting specialized mine-laying equipment on vehicles is more cold-war-esque (e.g. the GZM, the Minenwerfer Skorpion or the Shielder Minelaying System).

There are some WW2 vehicles that had mine-launchers (the four little cups on the Tiger H1 are used to launch S-Mines for example), but those would be used for immediate action and not to secure an area over the long run.

 

 

Well those works too but i had in mine some kind of specialized halftracks or light vehicles that were used to lay mines like the sd kfz or m3 maybe?

 

any vehicle used to lay mines during ww2

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On 18/05/2020 at 09:37, *J26Lennox26 said:

 

 

Well those works too but i had in mine some kind of specialized halftracks or light vehicles that were used to lay mines like the sd kfz or m3 maybe?

 

any vehicle used to lay mines during ww2

Any mine laying work would be done manually by an engineering corps of some kind with regular unmodified troop transports. If you were to find anything it would probably German since the allies didn't have a high enough demand to constitute a dedicated mine laying vehicle past 1943. As pointed out above mine laying vehicles didn't really pop up till the cold war and even then they had limited serviceability. Militaries quickly realized that they can put hundreds of little AP or AT mines in a container and drop it from an aircraft to have an instant minefield deployed in a couple minutes. For anything bigger, you have helicopter mine dispensers or in the case of the Mi-8 a little ramp for crews to slide mines out onto the ground. Air deployed mines are just a much safer way to go about things, so by the time technology caught up to allow for automatic mine deploying vehicles they pretty much became obsolete due to the safety risk of an armored vehicle placing down hundreds of things designed to kill it.

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51 minutes ago, Head3masher said:

To be honest we could have just a truck, where you can send men out to slip mines down.

 

it could work in a enduring confrontation tank mode, or sim. Like controlling a point and being able to place mines and secure a large area because of infantry. A feature In large maps of course. 

 

But in arcade or in realistic. I don't see much sense to bring a truck with men to place mine. Liike maps are smaller and battles usually have enough things that can destroy your vehicle directly or indirectly. But if somehow they could implement mines, maybe by this ia infantry men u say. Maybe we could also get mine rollers or mine clearing devices, the trawls on the tanks. Like sherman crab would be cool!

 

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KMT Mine Plows

 

Leopard AS1 Main Battle Tank Part Two by Paul D. Handel

 

M4 Crab | Tank, Sherman tank

 

 

 

 

Leopard 2A6M with Soviet KMT-5M mine roller : TankPornTank Plow / Roller

 

They surely look menacing!

 

 

But thats why my first question. Because if maybe some light car were able to put mines, they could be useful on the game even on arcade or realistic. But seems like a more modern and lacky feature for most nations

 

But this reminds me of the RC controlled mines from WW2, like the Goliath... which could be added in the game. Despite not liking the idea of germans having it.

 

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Russia, 1944

 

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A bit of a misconception of how mines are used I think??

 

Deploying it by Plane/Helicopter or even Artillery...is much less effective the  with a dedicated mine-laying vehicle.

The deploymentmethods can only lay "open" mines, and the deployment itself ("airborne") is  rather easy to detect.

 

Mines are used to slow down or channel the enemy...when its already "known" where these mine are, they will be much less effective in these jobs.

 

Another point is, that these "air deployed" minefields have a rather large safety zone, where own troops need to be carefull  to not hit own mines...therefor they can not deploy as effectively to overwatch their own minefield. And a minefield without overwatch is near useless..

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The German Scorpion was was a  Mine throwing system (Minelayer) in cold war.  He was used by the engineer Troops and have had a load up to 600 Anti Tank Mines (5 Mines per tube). The Chassie was the US M548. Used Mines was the AT-2 (AT = Anti Tank)

 

Descripton Skorpion (only in German, sorry)

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minenwurfsystem_Skorpion

http://www.panzerbaer.de/types/bw_minwrf_skorpion-a.htm

 

Pic`s

https://www.google.com/search?source=univ&tbm=isch&q=Minenwurfsystem+Skorpion&client=firefox-b-d&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjN--n91KTrAhXRsKQKHW-mAogQsAR6BAgOEAE&biw=1920&bih=966

 

(the AT-2 Anti-Tank Mine, in english)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT2_mine

 

Youtube

 

 
 
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