Turkish Ground Forces Tech Tree

[Raiden_Black 1,513]

What if Gaijin trims down the posted Turkish tree keeping only relevant unique vehicles, eliminating the C&P fillers and adds the trimmed down Tukish TT as a subtree under Israel?
Similar to SA sub tree under British tree.

[Dewastor 260]

46 minutes ago, Raiden_Black said:

What if Gaijin trims down the posted Turkish tree keeping only relevant unique vehicles, eliminating the C&P fillers and adds the trimmed down Tukish TT as a subtree under Israel?
Similar to SA sub tree under British tree.

  That's not a good idea to be honest. There's no need Turkish vehicles in Israeli one plus its only M60 upgrades related to Israel. SA makes sense in British tree as it was part of Commonwealth, though I wanted SA to be part of Commonwealth TT.

[Buzx 95]

Dont get him serious please,he puts everything he find to israel tree
 

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[Raiden_Black 1,513]

45 minutes ago, Buzx said:

Don't get take him serious seriously please, he puts everything he find to Israel tree ~ "there, fixed your grammar"
 

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Because all of those vehicles are somewhat related to Israel defense industry/assistance, ain't it?  Its not just a mere coincidence per se.
And regarding that Indian TT, I only ventured as to how that can be implemented and compared if something similar to Israel's TT implementation can be done. Since that implementation process is relatively new and opens door to other nation's implementations (including Turkiye).

Edited March 22, 2022 by Raiden_Black

[Raiden_Black 1,513]

3 hours ago, Dewastor said:

  That's not a good idea to be honest. There's no need Turkish vehicles in Israeli one plus its only M60 upgrades related to Israel. SA makes sense in British tree as it was part of Commonwealth, though I wanted SA to be part of Commonwealth TT.

Yea ... I am just honestly asking. Given the historical ties at one point in time. See how the rest of the community feels.

[Dewastor 260]

  Been doing my own Turkish TT for a time, finally made a sketch of MBT Lines;

 

  There's total of 23 vehicles including premium/event/squadron, 8 of them outright copy-pastes (9 If we include Leopard 1T). 4 out of remaining 15 are unique but light upgrades, 6 of them extensive unique upgrades, 3 of them completely indigenous and 2 of them Eastern Bloc tanks with modifications related to Turkey somehow. There is one vehicle left outside of the TT which is Azerbaijani T-72 "Aslan" as I could not find reliable info about upgrade, though read it it was equivalent of T-72 SIM2.

 

First Line Consist of American Based Tanks;

• M47, Base Model
• M48, Base Model
• M48A5T1-M48A5T2, Turkish upgrades of M48 with new FCS and 105mm gun
• M60A1, Base Model
• M60A3, Base Model
• M60A3 TTS, Base Model
• M60A3 "Fırat", Turkish upgrade of M60A3 and M60A3 TTS to M60MT level protection, name is not official.
• M60T, aka Sabra, Israeli upgrade package offered to Turkey, 
• M60TM, Turkish upgrade of M60Ts under Fırat Modernization Program

Second Line Starts with German Leopards;

• Leopard 1A1A1, Base Model
• Leopard 1A3T1, Base Model with Turkish designation 
• Leopard 2A4TR, Base Model with Turkish designation 
• Leopard 2 NG, Extensive Turkish upgrade
• Altay T2, Turkish Indigenous Tank, IDEF'17 prototype, not sure if its official designation
• Altay AHT, Turkish Indigenous Tank, IDEF'17 prototype, again not sure if its official designation, AHT stands for "Asimetrik Harp Tankı" similar to PSO packages 
• Altay AMT, Turkish Indigenous Tank, lates BMC prototype, AMT stands for "Ana Muharebe Tankı" literally Main Battle Tank

Premiums;

• Leopard 1T, Turkish upgrade with new FCS
• Leopard 2 T1, Turkish armor package upgrade, similar to Polish one
• Leopard 2 ERA, An upgrade prototype of 2A4, not much info only few photographs. 
• T-72KAE, Kazakhstan ASELSAN Engineering (KAE) upgrade of T-72A&B
• Leopard "Altay", Leopard 2A4 chassis mated with Altay turret, no official designation
• T-84-120, Ukrainian modification of T-84 to meets needs of Tank-2000 Project

 

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Edited March 22, 2022 by Dewastor

[modern_primat 160]

18 hours ago, Dewastor said:

  Been doing my own Turkish TT for a time, finally made a sketch of MBT Lines;

 

  There's total of 23 vehicles including premium/event/squadron, 8 of them outright copy-pastes (9 If we include Leopard 1T). 4 out of remaining 15 are unique but light upgrades, 6 of them extensive unique upgrades, 3 of them completely indigenous and 2 of them Eastern Bloc tanks with modifications related to Turkey somehow. There is one vehicle left outside of the TT which is Azerbaijani T-72 "Aslan" as I could not find reliable info about upgrade, though read it it was equivalent of T-72 SIM2.

 

First Line Consist of American Based Tanks;

• M47, Base Model
• M48, Base Model
• M48A5T1-M48A5T2, Turkish upgrades of M48 with new FCS and 105mm gun
• M60A1, Base Model
• M60A3, Base Model
• M60A3 TTS, Base Model
• M60A3 "Fırat", Turkish upgrade of M60A3 and M60A3 TTS to M60MT level protection, name is not official.
• M60T, aka Sabra, Israeli upgrade package offered to Turkey, 
• M60TM, Turkish upgrade of M60Ts under Fırat Modernization Program

Second Line Starts with German Leopards;

• Leopard 1A1A1, Base Model
• Leopard 1A3T1, Base Model with Turkish designation 
• Leopard 2A4TR, Base Model with Turkish designation 
• Leopard 2 NG, Extensive Turkish upgrade
• Altay T2, Turkish Indigenous Tank, IDEF'17 prototype, not sure if its official designation
• Altay AHT, Turkish Indigenous Tank, IDEF'17 prototype, again not sure if its official designation, AHT stands for "Asimetrik Harp Tankı" similar to PSO packages 
• Altay AMT, Turkish Indigenous Tank, lates BMC prototype, AMT stands for "Ana Muharebe Tankı" literally Main Battle Tank

Premiums;

• Leopard 1T, Turkish upgrade with new FCS
• Leopard 2 T1, Turkish armor package upgrade, similar to Polish one
• Leopard 2 ERA, An upgrade prototype of 2A4, not much info only few photographs. 
• T-72KAE, Kazakhstan ASELSAN Engineering (KAE) upgrade of T-72A&B
• Leopard "Altay", Leopard 2A4 chassis mated with Altay turret, no official designation
• T-84-120, Ukrainian modification of T-84 to meets needs of Tank-2000 Project

 

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wheres my kobra TOW and 20mm one?

 

wheres my fırtına SPG?

 

wheres my light tanks?

 

your suggestion's only good side is putting M60T after many M60s. it supports putting M60T for USA M60 line.. BUT! your tree is copy paste tree.. turkish branch is way better than tree in that way.

[Dewastor 260]

4 hours ago, modern_primat said:

wheres my kobra TOW and 20mm one?

wheres my fırtına SPG?

wheres my light tanks?

your suggestion's only good side is putting M60T after many M60s. it supports putting M60T for USA M60 line.. BUT! your tree is copy paste tree.. turkish branch is way better than tree in that way.

  I don't wanna sound rude but can you even read ? I literally said it is just the MBT LINES, it takes a long time to finalize a TT, you can be sure I already have a quite large list of vehicles.

 

Whatever, I have managed to made cluster of Light Vehicles. I didn't made proper line just mini lines, to show potential vehicles so be easy on me this one;

 

  There's total of 17 vehicle including premiums and event vehicles. First Line is wheeled tank destroyers and fire support vehicles and consists of 4 vehicles (lul), Second Line is auto-canon armed wheeled vehicles and consists of 5 vehicles (again lul), Third Line is so called "Light Tanks" and consists of just 3 vehicles. Premium Side offers nothing different from research tree, they're generally redundant vehicles to add as they are quite similar to their TT counterparts. Arma platform dominates lines, there is one platform I deliberately left outside of the tree since it offer nothing really different and that platform is Pars III/IV. Still will be providing info about them. Every vehicle in this tree is indigenous designs of Turkish companies (maybe except Rabdan which was based on Arma 8x8 and modified to meet the requirements).

 

First Line, Wheeled Tank Destroyer/Fire Support Vehicles;

• Akrep IId 4x4, Armed with 90mm Gun on Cockerill CSE 90LP Turret
• Arma 6x6, Armed with 90mm on either Cockerill CSE 90LP or LCTS 90MP Turret
• Arma 8x8 “Rabdan”, Armed with 100mm and 30mm Guns of BMP-3 on 2K23 Turret
• Arma 8x8, Armed with 105mm Gun on Cockerill 3105 Turret

 

Second Line, Auto-Canon Armed Wheeled Vehicles;

• Akrep IId 4x4, Armed with 25mm Auto-Cannon
• Akrep IId 4x4, Armed with 30mm Auto-Cannon
• Arma 8x8, Armed with 25mm Auto-Cannon on Bozok-25 Turret
• Arma 8x8, Armed with 30mm Auto-Cannon with L-UMTAS ATGM on Mızrak-30 Turret
• Arma 8x8, Armed with 35mm Auto-Cannon, KORKUT Weapon System, has Hard-Kill APS

 

Third Line, Light "Tanks";

• ACV-19, Armed with 90mm Gun on Cockerill CSE 90LP Turret
• ACV-19, Armed with 100mm and 30mm Guns of BMP-3 on 2K23 Turret
• Tulpar Light Tank, Armed with 105mm Gun on Cockerill 3105 Turret

 

Premiums;

• Cobra II 4x4, Armed with 25mm Auto-Cannon on Bozok-25 Turret
• Arma 6x6, Armed with 25mm Auto-Cannon on Bozok-25 Turret
• Pars III/IV, Armed with 35mm Auto-Cannon on TEBER-35 Turret
• Kaplan MMWT, aka Harimau, Armed with 105mm Gun on Cockerill 3105 Turret
• Altuğ 8x8, Armed with 35mm KORKUT Weapon System, as Hard-Kill APS

 

Vehicles that are not Present on TT;

• Pars III/IV 6x6, Armed with 25mm on SABER-25 Turret
• Pars III/IV 8x8, Armed with 25mm on SABER-25 Turret
• Pars III/IV 8x8, Armed with 30mm on TEBER-30 Turret

 

 

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Tulpar Light Tank 105mm Cockerill 3105

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Cobra II 4x4 25mm Bozok-25 

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Pars III 8x8 35mm TEBER-35

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Kaplan Modern Medium Weight Tank 105mm Cockerill 3105

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[CneuHa3_TUR 460]

5 hours ago, modern_primat said:

wheres my kobra TOW and 20mm one?

 

wheres my fırtına SPG?

 

wheres my light tanks?

 

your suggestion's only good side is putting M60T after many M60s. it supports putting M60T for USA M60 line.. BUT! your tree is copy paste tree.. turkish branch is way better than tree in that way.

No need to be rude  

At least he tries to do smth... It's open for anyones updates and ideas I guess.

[Armazi48 0]

I wrote the tanks used by the turkey, which is missing from the tree. I will be happy if you add it to the tree.

 

*m4 sherman (used 25 of them)

*stug 3 (used 50 of them)

*m41a1 (used 100 of them)

*m48 (stock)

*m48a1

*m48a2C

*m48a3

*m48T5 (german modernization package)

*Leopard 1a3

*Leopard 1a3T1

*m60a1

*m60a3 TTS

*m60 sabra fırat modernization

*Leopard 1a1a

*Leopard 2a4T1

*Pars 4x4 Sta ATGM

*Arma 8x8 30mm

 

referance : https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Türk_Silahlı_Kuvvetlerinde_zırhlı_birlikler

 

 

[SubapbaP 31]

Very good job Dewastor. Thank you. Are you planning to make a tank destroyer tree similar to your mbt and light tank trees? 

 

[Dewastor 260]

14 hours ago, SubapbaP said:

Very good job Dewastor. Thank you. Are you planning to make a tank destroyer tree similar to your mbt and light tank trees? 

 

  I certainly do, in fact, there is three more lines I'm planning to complete. There's one for anti-air, one for tracked IFV and lastly for ATGM carrier line. I don't have much time to complete them in any time soon though. 

[SubapbaP 31]

1 hour ago, Dewastor said:

  I certainly do, in fact, there is three more lines I'm planning to complete. There's one for anti-air, one for tracked IFV and lastly for ATGM carrier line. I don't have much time to complete them in any time soon though. 

Nice. Take your time. There is no need to rush as we are not going to see a new faction for at least 2 or 3 years. I am really looking forward to see your work.

[Raiden_Black 1,513]

On 23/03/2022 at 02:22, Dewastor said:

  Been doing my own Turkish TT for a time, finally made a sketch of MBT Lines;

 

  There's total of 23 vehicles including premium/event/squadron, 8 of them outright copy-pastes (9 If we include Leopard 1T). 4 out of remaining 15 are unique but light upgrades, 6 of them extensive unique upgrades, 3 of them completely indigenous and 2 of them Eastern Bloc tanks with modifications related to Turkey somehow. There is one vehicle left outside of the TT which is Azerbaijani T-72 "Aslan" as I could not find reliable info about upgrade, though read it it was equivalent of T-72 SIM2.

 

First Line Consist of American Based Tanks;

• M47, Base Model
• M48, Base Model
• M48A5T1-M48A5T2, Turkish upgrades of M48 with new FCS and 105mm gun
• M60A1, Base Model
• M60A3, Base Model
• M60A3 TTS, Base Model
• M60A3 "Fırat", Turkish upgrade of M60A3 and M60A3 TTS to M60MT level protection, name is not official.
• M60T, aka Sabra, Israeli upgrade package offered to Turkey, 
• M60TM, Turkish upgrade of M60Ts under Fırat Modernization Program

Second Line Starts with German Leopards;

• Leopard 1A1A1, Base Model
• Leopard 1A3T1, Base Model with Turkish designation 
• Leopard 2A4TR, Base Model with Turkish designation 
• Leopard 2 NG, Extensive Turkish upgrade
• Altay T2, Turkish Indigenous Tank, IDEF'17 prototype, not sure if its official designation
• Altay AHT, Turkish Indigenous Tank, IDEF'17 prototype, again not sure if its official designation, AHT stands for "Asimetrik Harp Tankı" similar to PSO packages 
• Altay AMT, Turkish Indigenous Tank, lates BMC prototype, AMT stands for "Ana Muharebe Tankı" literally Main Battle Tank

Premiums;

• Leopard 1T, Turkish upgrade with new FCS
• Leopard 2 T1, Turkish armor package upgrade, similar to Polish one
• Leopard 2 ERA, An upgrade prototype of 2A4, not much info only few photographs. 
• T-72KAE, Kazakhstan ASELSAN Engineering (KAE) upgrade of T-72A&B
• Leopard "Altay", Leopard 2A4 chassis mated with Altay turret, no official designation
• T-84-120, Ukrainian modification of T-84 to meets needs of Tank-2000 Project

 

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(using your naming conventions ... )
Isn't Altay AHT more armored than Altay AMT? AHT was developed from the AMT.
And what's your reason for putting Leo-Altay as as premium?
Can't it be Altay T2 => Leo-Altay => Altay AMT => Altay AHT ? 
Since Leo-Altay is already having the upgraded AMT turret and the Leo 2 chassis has been up-armored as well. It can comfortably sit between Altay T2 and Altay AMT.

Edited March 26, 2022 by Raiden_Black

[wolfieraps21221 5]

guys will turkey be added to wt

[Dewastor 260]

1 hour ago, Raiden_Black said:

(using your naming conventions ... )
Isn't Altay AHT more armored than Altay AMT? AHT was developed from the AMT.
And what's your reason for putting Leo-Altay as as premium?
Can't it be Altay T2 => Leo-Altay => Altay AMT => Altay AHT ? 
Since Leo-Altay is already having the upgraded AMT turret and the Leo 2 chassis has been up-armored as well. It can comfortably sit between Altay T2 and Altay AMT.

  Well naming of Altay's are not actually official, T2 was to be the production version, this time around project was on Otokar. Lately there is no mention of "T" designation, AMT was used instead after project taken over by BMC. So, I just used T2 for latest Otokar prototype and AHT was used during IDEF'17, AMT designation on the other was used around 2020, after BMC involvement, by a state official and I just slapped AMT to BMC prototype to prevent confusion.

   

  AHT is bases on T2 thus coming after T2 not AMT. Main reason of this, Altay T2 and AHT as I mentioned was produced by Otokar, AMT is by BMC so they're actually different prototypes. AMT being latest one is the crown of the tree plus as far as I'm aware has AKKOR hard-kill APS unlike earlier prototypes. Changing AHT's designation to T2 AHT would solve this confusion I think.

 

  Leopard with Altay turret seems to be a one time thing as very recently T1 armor upgrade was ordered by government I don't think there are any plans to mate Altay turrets with Leopard hull. It still can made into research tree, actually when I first completed this tree I didn't know that AMT turret had APS but earlier ones did not, so putting Leopard with Altay turret does seem to be a good idea to bolster high tier line-up.

 

  Thank you for your criticism, I'll update the tree when it is possible, your suggestions made a lot of sense

 

  Here is the update;

Edited March 26, 2022 by Dewastor

[Raiden_Black 1,513]

13 hours ago, Dewastor said:

  Well naming of Altay's are not actually official, T2 was to be the production version, this time around project was on Otokar. Lately there is no mention of "T" designation, AMT was used instead after project taken over by BMC. So, I just used T2 for latest Otokar prototype and AHT was used during IDEF'17, AMT designation on the other was used around 2020, after BMC involvement, by a state official and I just slapped AMT to BMC prototype to prevent confusion.

   

  AHT is bases on T2 thus coming after T2 not AMT. Main reason of this, Altay T2 and AHT as I mentioned was produced by Otokar, AMT is by BMC so they're actually different prototypes. AMT being latest one is the crown of the tree plus as far as I'm aware has AKKOR hard-kill APS unlike earlier prototypes. Changing AHT's designation to T2 AHT would solve this confusion I think.

 

  Leopard with Altay turret seems to be a one time thing as very recently T1 armor upgrade was ordered by government I don't think there are any plans to mate Altay turrets with Leopard hull. It still can made into research tree, actually when I first completed this tree I didn't know that AMT turret had APS but earlier ones did not, so putting Leopard with Altay turret does seem to be a good idea to bolster high tier line-up.

 

  Thank you for your criticism, I'll update the tree when it is possible, your suggestions made a lot of sense

 

  Here is the update;

Yea, the T2 AHT kind of cleared the confusion.
Thanks, Champ! Keep updating.
Since your Turkiye TT suggestion plan looks much more fleshed out, I think a semi-independent Turkiye  TT can become a possibility in future. 
I urge you to make your TT a separate suggestion from this PikPikker's suggestion. Once your work is complete of course. You'll get more positive support for a more updated unique tree (I'll surely vote).
Just that ... along with unique wheeled vehicles, if you could include some unique tracked (non-IFV) vehicles including prototypes in rank V and VI, that'd help a lot with the suggestion.

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[modern_primat 160]

im gonna add here later turkish branch

[Dewastor 260]

3 hours ago, Raiden_Black said:

Yea, the T2 AHT kind of cleared the confusion.
Thanks, Champ!
Keep updating .... Since your T urki y e TT suggestion plan looks much more fleshed out, I think a semi-independent T urki y e TT can become a possibility in future. 
I urge you to make your TT a separate suggestion from this PikPikker's suggestion. Once yours is work is complete of course. You'll get more positive support for a more updated unique tree (I'll surely vote).
Just that ... along with unique wheeled vehicles, if you could include some unique tracked (non-IFV) vehicles including prototypes in rank V and VI, that'd help a lot with the suggestion.

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  I could not figure out how to put SPGs into the line tbh. M44T>M57T>Fırtına>Fırtına II could be good line or at least starter for ATGM line and Fatih as premium. Will see how it turns out.

I'll start a new topic as soon as I complete AA line then will continue other in that topic but this will take some time. Thank you for your interest   .

 

  At the time being I've been doing little research for something not entirely related to this topic but some other Turkish TT project. Expecting approximately 13 vehicles to be on that TT, of course there will not be as much unique vehicles as in this one. Anyways, here little sneak-peak of unique ones;

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[Raiden_Black 1,513]

On 27/03/2022 at 16:44, Dewastor said:

  At the time being I've been doing little research for something not entirely related to this topic but some other Turkish TT project. Expecting approximately 13 vehicles to be on that TT, of course there will not be as much unique vehicles as in this one. Anyways, here little sneak-peak of unique ones;

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If you ask for something unique, then might I interest you with .... Ka-50-2 "Erdogan"  :

    A once Russo-Israeli special project created specifically for Türkiye  in 1997

[modern_primat 160]

in first, i thought branch will good idea. but after, i changed my mind. adding many vehicle in once is better. turkish subtree or branch or vehicles in USA tree!

 

my thoughts, turkish:

hafif hattına m24'ten sonra m113 25mm(acv15-bradley topu-apds80mmpen)(BR4.0), sonra humvee 40mm(BR4.3), sonra cobra 20mm(BR6.7), m50'den sonra lav25(BR7.3), hstvl ve m3a3 arasına kaplan MT(yalnızca premium da olabilir)

 

m60 hattı: m48 ile türk m48105mm cep olacak-m60 ile m60a1aos cep olacak-m60rise ile m60TTS cep olacak--önce m60t ve m60tm(cep) sonra 120s. altay'ı eklemedim. altay daha üretilmedi.

 

tank avcısı hattına önce cobra tow(t95'ten önce), sonra fırtına kmt ve m109 paladin(cep)(t95'ten sonra), sonra m113 tow ve humvee tow ve lav tow(m901gibiolan)(cep)(lav veya humvee ayrı olabilir)

 

ABD hattının özel oluşunu bozacak, valentine-pz4-hotkiss-ba9-t28 tanklarını eklemedim. özellikle leopard volkan'ı eklemedim. ABD ağacında herhangi bir leopard olmamalı.

 

greyhound belki eklenebilir.

 

jackson-m47-m60 gibi zaten kullanılmış/an olanları da eklemedim. bunun yerine onlar için daha fazla tsk temalı cilt koyulabilir.

 

uçaksavar eklemedim, gerek duymadım. belki korkut eklenebilir.

 

google translate:

 

to the light line after m24 m113 25mm(acv15-bradley cannon-apds80mmpen)(BR4.0), then humvee 40mm(BR4.3), then cobra 20mm(BR6.7), after m50 lav25(BR7.3) , MT sandwiched between hstvl and m3a3 (can also be premium only)

 

m60 line: m48 with turkish m48105mm pocket - m60 with m60a1aos pocket - m60rise with m60TTS pocket - first m60t and m60tm(pocket) then 120s, no altay there. altay didnt produced.

 

to tank destroyer line first cobra tow(before t95), then storm kmt and m109 paladin(pocket)(after t95), then m113 tow and humvee tow and lava tow(m901gibiolan)(pocket)(lava or humvee can be separate) )

 

I did not add the valentine-pz4-hotkiss-ba9-t28 tanks, which would spoil the speciality of the US line. I didn't particularly add leopard volcano. There should not be any leopards on the US tree.

 

greyhound maybe added. I didn't include the already used/current ones like jackson-m47-m60. instead, more tsk themed skins can be put for them.

 

I didn't add anti-aircraft, I didn't need it. maybe scare can be added.

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disclaimer: while making this thing, im changed my mind about little things.......

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[Raiden_Black 1,513]

Altay early prototype :

[modern_primat 160]

Just now, Raiden_Black said:

Altay early prototype :

wow, this is looking like xm1 chrysler

 

also.. how about mine?

[CneuHa3_TUR 460]

21 minutes ago, Raiden_Black said:

Altay early prototype :

That's T205-Altay Experimental Project been run late 90s-early 2000s, not related to Todays Altay MBT, only by some tech substructures. It's a good candidate for future TT premium, but very limited info about this one

[Dewastor 260]

On 29/03/2022 at 00:33, Raiden_Black said:

If you ask for something unique, then might I interest you with .... Ka-50-2 "Erdogan"  :

    A once Russo-Israeli special project created specifically for Türkiye  in 1997

  Seems like we found our premium 

 

On 29/03/2022 at 16:41, modern_primat said:

in first, i thought branch will good idea. but after, i changed my mind. adding many vehicle in once is better

 

my thoughts, turkish:

hafif hattına m24'ten sonra m113 25mm(acv15-bradley topu-apds80mmpen)(BR4.0), sonra humvee 40mm(BR4.3), sonra cobra 20mm(BR6.7), m50'den sonra lav25(BR7.3), hstvl ve m3a3 arasına kaplan MT(yalnızca premium da olabilir)

 

m60 hattı: m48 ile türk m48105mm cep olacak-m60 ile m60a1aos cep olacak-m60rise ile m60TTS cep olacak--önce m60t ve m60tm(cep) sonra 120s. altay'ı eklemedim. altay daha üretilmedi.

 

tank avcısı hattına önce cobra tow(t95'ten önce), sonra fırtına kmt ve m109 paladin(cep)(t95'ten sonra), sonra m113 tow ve humvee tow ve lav tow(m901gibiolan)(cep)(lav veya humvee ayrı olabilir)

 

ABD hattının özel oluşunu bozacak, valentine-pz4-hotkiss-ba9-t28 tanklarını eklemedim. özellikle leopard volkan'ı eklemedim. ABD ağacında herhangi bir leopard olmamalı.

 

greyhound belki eklenebilir.

 

jackson-m47-m60 gibi zaten kullanılmış/an olanları da eklemedim. bunun yerine onlar için daha fazla tsk temalı cilt koyulabilir.

 

uçaksavar eklemedim, gerek duymadım. belki korkut eklenebilir.

 

google translate:

 

to the light line after m24 m113 25mm(acv15-bradley cannon-apds80mmpen)(BR4.0), then humvee 40mm(BR4.3), then cobra 20mm(BR6.7), after m50 lav25(BR7.3) , MT sandwiched between hstvl and m3a3 (can also be premium only)

 

m60 line: m48 with turkish m48105mm pocket - m60 with m60a1aos pocket - m60rise with m60TTS pocket - first m60t and m60tm(pocket) then 120s, no altay there. altay didnt produced.

 

to tank destroyer line first cobra tow(before t95), then storm kmt and m109 paladin(pocket)(after t95), then m113 tow and humvee tow and lava tow(m901gibiolan)(pocket)(lava or humvee can be separate) )

 

I did not add the valentine-pz4-hotkiss-ba9-t28 tanks, which would spoil the speciality of the US line. I didn't particularly add leopard volcano. There should not be any leopards on the US tree.

 

greyhound maybe added. I didn't include the already used/current ones like jackson-m47-m60. instead, more tsk themed skins can be put for them.

 

I didn't add anti-aircraft, I didn't need it. maybe scare can be added.

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disclaimer: while making this thing, im changed my mind about little things.......

  You really need to make it a bit more clear it is incredibly hard to see your additions. Plus why do you want it as a branch within American tree ? There is enough vehicles to make one fleshed one, at least for ground. 

 

About the tree, there is no place for .50 cal armed modern vehicles at that low BR if you ask me,  especially ACV-15 it is incredibly new vehicle, you should not put it below Rank V. Turkish RISE M60s never got ERAs, at least I could not find one RISE with its ERA still on. I do agree that M60-2000 should be part of American M60 line.  

 

21 hours ago, Raiden_Black said:

Altay early prototype :

  T205, it was in 2008 Turkish Armed Forces Magazine as bottom of the page says, coincides with Altay's first rumors, as far as I'm concerned it has nothing to do with Altay, It was some sort of basic technology demonstrator. It looks like  @CneuHa3_TUR already informed you

 

21 hours ago, CneuHa3_TUR said:

That's T205-Altay Experimental Project been run late 90s-early 2000s, not related to Todays Altay MBT, only by some tech substructures. It's a good candidate for future TT premium, but very limited info about this one

  You might be misremembering dates as it is first reveled in 2008. I don't remember reading anything about a tank projects in 90s except one SPG experiments. Still might be wrong, I would very much appreciate to be informed if you have anything. Sadly there is quite literally zero chances T205 makes it into the game as it is not even a mock-up but just a scale model albeit a detailed one. Magazine had quite a bit info about this no ? If I'm not wrong it was actually long article, I must have it on my old computer I'll share if I can find it.