Turkish Ground Forces Tech Tree

[CneuHa3_TUR 460]

2 hours ago, eleks12 said:

Maybe Albania could be represented in a possible Turkish tree. Which means it could get both a Type-59 medium tank and a BMP-1.

 

If We ever gonna see a Turkish TT in game, the only country You can attach to it is Azerbaijan... But then You know some people will be mad for copy-paste of 2 Head TT Vehicles 

It would be Western-like Turkish top tier combined with Russian tech Azerbaijani Vehicles

[eleks12 997]

Just now, CneuHa3_TUR said:

 

If We ever gonna see a Turkish TT in game, the only country You can attach to it is Azerbaijan... But then You know some people will be mad for copy-paste of 2 Head TT Vehicles 

It would be Western-like Turkish top tier combined with Russian tech Azerbaijani Vehicles

Well Azerbaijan was a former soviet republik. So i guess it aint gonna happen. 

[CneuHa3_TUR 460]

50 minutes ago, eleks12 said:

Well Azerbaijan was a former soviet republik. So i guess it aint gonna happen.

 

Yes, but some post-soviet modernizations of Azerbaijani AF has been made by cooperation with Turkey and Israel... Such vehicles as Premiums in TT should be fine

 

I mean this Azerbaijani Otokar Cobra with Kornet-E on it should be fine in Turkish TT as Premium I guess? Another country would be represented in game, which is fine 

 

[eleks12 997]

I think this new upgrade package is different to the Leopard 2A4NG. But i don't speak Turkish so i don't know anything about this new tank.

 

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Only article i could find from TopWar.ru

https://en.topwar.ru/174898-tureckim-obt-leopard-2a4-znachitelno-usilili-zaschitu.html

[TearJerker 123]

+1 Some pretty cool stuff here. Hoping the BRs are balanced on some of the light armored stuff(not too low), but it makes a decent tree.

 

PS - Thanks for reviving this thread, @eleks12, as I hadn't seen or voted on it yet.

[CneuHa3_TUR 460]

54 minutes ago, eleks12 said:

I think this new upgrade package is different to the Leopard 2A4NG. But i don't speak Turkish so i don't know anything about this new tank.

 

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Only article i could find from TopWar.ru

https://en.topwar.ru/174898-tureckim-obt-leopard-2a4-znachitelno-usilili-zaschitu.html

 

Nobody knows much about it yet, cuz it's pretty new... But this modernization isn't named as Leopard 2A4 NG, it was another program have been runed by another Turkish Company ASELSAN and cancelled due to high cost . Leo2A4 NG was more extensive program according to this one You share... Leo2A4 Next Generation included remote control AA, new optics, electronics, fire control system etc., but about this one made by Roketsan so far we only know it's gonna have new Active and Passive Protection and weights 7 tonnes more than the original Leo2A4

[eleks12 997]

5 minutes ago, CneuHa3_TUR said:

 

Nobody knows much about it yet, cuz it's pretty new... But this modernization isn't named as Leopard 2A4 NG, it was another program have been runed by another Turkish Company ASELSAN and cancelled due to high cost . Leo2A4 NG was more extensive program according to this one You share... Leo2A4 Next Generation included remote control AA, new optics, electronics, fire control system etc., but about this one made by Roketsan so far we only know it's gonna have new Active and Passive Protection and weights 7 tonnes more than the original Leo2A4

 

ok. thats great to hear. since it when i saw this new tank it differently didnt look like the Leopard 2A4 NG so i thought i wanted to share it because i was sure it was something completely new!  

[Solarmod 1,186]

I wonder if I should make another supplemental AF tree for this.

[CneuHa3_TUR 460]

On 04/10/2020 at 22:39, Solarmod said:

I wonder if I should make another supplemental AF tree for this.

Why not give it a try? lol 

[Solarmod 1,186]

On 11/10/2020 at 12:40, CneuHa3_TUR said:

Why not give it a try? lol 

Doing it now! 

[CneuHa3_TUR 460]

9 minutes ago, Solarmod said:

Doing it now! 

I'm looking forward to it 

[Solarmod 1,186]

I'm sad to say that it's a lot of copy+paste, but there's a good chunk of vehicles that aren't in other trees yet, like the 190A-4, the T-33, and the Baltimore 187. But there's your visual tree, do with it as you will, and if anyone finds anything I haven't included, let me know o7 

[CneuHa3_TUR 460]

10 hours ago, Solarmod said:

I'm sad to say that it's a lot of copy+paste, but there's a good chunk of vehicles that aren't in other trees yet, like the 190A-4, the T-33, and the Baltimore 187. But there's your visual tree, do with it as you will, and if anyone finds anything I haven't included, let me know o7 

Woah! Awesome work 

You can also add F-86E as jet fighter, B-24D Liberator as Heavy Bomber aside He-111, Fairey Battle Mk.I as Light Bomber/Heavy Fighter, Beaufort Mk.II as Torpedo Bomber, A-26 Invader as Attacker and idk if it makes any sense rn, but you can add other models of F-16's at top tier

 

... and also F-4E 2020 Terminator is like Top Modification of Phantom II right now and still in TurAF use rn, so it's surely performs better than the one you put on regular tree.

 

But beyond of all just like you mentioned it's almost complate copy/paste tree so I wonder if it has any chance to make it in WT 

Edited October 18, 2020 by CneuHa3_TUR

[Solarmod 1,186]

8 hours ago, CneuHa3_TUR said:

Woah! Awesome work 

You can also add F-86E as jet fighter, B-24D Liberator as Heavy Bomber aside He-111, Fairey Battle Mk.I as Light Bomber/Heavy Fighter, Beaufort Mk.II as Torpedo Bomber, A-26 Invader as Attacker and idk if it makes any sense rn, but you can add other models of F-16's at top tier

 

... and also F-4E 2020 Terminator is like Top Modification of Phantom II right now and still in TurAF use rn, so it's surely performs better than the one you put on regular tree.

 

But beyond of all just like you mentioned it's almost complate copy/paste tree so I wonder if it has any chance to make it in WT 

The one thing I was curious about was if the Terminator was unique, thank you for confirming. I will tweak.

[syndrome23 7,082]

I honestly do not think an aviation three is possible. However helicopters and tanks are pretty muıh OK. Turkey excels particularly on wheleed vehicles in late game, it would make it an interesting tree. 

Besides, almost all the stuff Turkey using is produced locally. Not designed,but produced. Some of them have plenty of upgrades, some others are downgraded export variants. Turkey even managed to produce and sell F-16's to Egypt in 80s and 90s.

[AplolwaehrKKHD 2]

Turkey definitely deserve their place in the game in my opinion. I see many people playing the tech tree including the ones who didnt vote yes on the poll. The ground gorces tech tree is already more appealing than some of the current tech trees. Turkey can also have competitive helicopter and naval tech trees. But the major concern is the Air forces tech tree. There are almost no indigenous aircraft for Turkey, especially on lower ranks. But still, Turkey should definitely be added to the game.

 

Another thing, Azerbaijani vehicles would only enrichen the Turkish tech tree. Azerbaijani people are Turks after all. A Turkish citizen and an Azerbaijan one are the same except they live a few hundred kilometers away from themselves. I would like to see Azerbaijani vehicles implemented into the Turkish tech tree.

[Abaddon75 418]

You can add BA 3 Armored Cars, panzer 3 J and H, and Sherman (but I don't have any info on wich variants, only pics I found were model of a m4... But with some more research and luck we could maybe add some basic sherman and a 76, I don't have the time to do it myself though) oh and the leopard 1a1/1a3/t1 (somobody already talked about it in page 2)

https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/Turkish-Tanks.php

 

Also add m41 (but again no idea of what could be the specific variant)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M41_Walker_Bulldog

 

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Edit : on this site sombody is quoting a book, and the variants of pz 4s seems to be H variant, also we learn that valentine were at least in two versions "most of them were 2pdrs with few MkIX" (75mm).

http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=286934

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As for critics, I don't like to see modern stuff put at low ranks, like for the spaa and TDs, also m24 m36 and m47 are down ranked and it shouldn't imo.

 

In a more practical point of vew, could you add the numbers of ranks in front of each lines and make a more visible separation between them, so it'll be easyer to read.

 

I don't say yes for now since the ground tree is a bit to messy imo and I'm pretty sure we can find more relevant stuff for early spaa and mid spg/lights.

Edited November 25, 2020 by Abaddon75

[CneuHa3_TUR 460]

5 hours ago, Abaddon75 said:

and the leopard 1a1/1a3/t1 (somobody already talked about it in page 2)

There are also Leopard 1A4 variants served in Turkish Army and 171 of those Leo 1s have been modernized with Volkan Fire-control system Upgrade which is giving those old pals real good abilities and they all being named as Leopard 1T... But like this Leo1 family gonna be as crowded as Abrams in US Tree, so idk it'll be interesting for people to play  

[Abaddon75 418]

On 25/11/2020 at 18:31, CneuHa3_TUR said:

There are also Leopard 1A4 variants served in Turkish Army and 171 of those Leo 1s have been modernized with Volkan Fire-control system Upgrade which is giving those old pals real good abilities and they all being named as Leopard 1T... But like this Leo1 family gonna be as crowded as Abrams in US Tree, so idk it'll be interesting for people to play  

yeah but we already have t50/60 and m48/60 a bit everywhere so leos...

[Matt_82 1,096]

I dunno how the game or playerbase benefits from more C&P trees.  There might be some interesting stuff at higher tiers but not enough to justify adding a full tree.

[modern_primat 160]

 

[eleks12 997]

 

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Turkey unveils hybrid main battle tank (defence-blog.com)

[_Condottiero_ 6,450]

I would be happy to see Turkey integrated into Italian tree.

This way the tree will get such vehicles as T-129, F-104S with AIM-9P (very needed plane as a step between AIM-9B and AIM-9L equipped planes) and just good top and pre-top line-ups with Ariete, Altay, Sabra, OF-40 and etc.

[efetenekeci 1,766]

On 27/03/2021 at 02:14, _Condottiero_ said:

I would be happy to see Turkey integrated into Italian tree.

This way the tree will get such vehicles as T-129, F-104S with AIM-9P (very needed plane as a step between AIM-9B and AIM-9L equipped planes) and just good top and pre-top line-ups with Ariete, Altay, Sabra, OF-40 and etc.

 

 

I think Italy should be supported with Brazil first. Turkey is not on the top of the list for future nations. If we get a future Israeli TT, that's the place where Turkey will probably go. 

Edited March 29, 2021 by efetenekeci

[Solarmod 1,186]

On 26/03/2021 at 18:14, _Condottiero_ said:

I would be happy to see Turkey integrated into Italian tree.

This way the tree will get such vehicles as T-129, F-104S with AIM-9P (very needed plane as a step between AIM-9B and AIM-9L equipped planes) and just good top and pre-top line-ups with Ariete, Altay, Sabra, OF-40 and etc.

Not a half-bad idea.