server update Server update (22.10.2019) -Economy and BR changes

[Stona 72,288]

 

• Planned BR changes (LINK).
• Planned economy changes (LINK).

Other changes:

• In combined simulator battles the SL award for capturing points has been reduced by 50%, the awards for destruction of enemy vehicles has been increased by 30%, supporting in destruction, hits and critical hits awards have all been increased by 50%.
• RP bonuses for RB and SB now extends also into modification research. For example, if a player received 1000 RP in the past for modification research after an RB battle and 1300 RP for vehicle research, the player will now receive 1300 RP for both categories.

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The current provided changelog reflects the major changes within the game as part of this Update. Some updates, additions and fixes may not be listed in the provided notes. War Thunder is constantly improving and specific fixes may be implemented without the client being updated.

[sw_3 936]

7 minutes ago, Stona said:

• RP bonuses for RB and SB now extends also into modification research. For example, if a player received 1000 RP in the past for modification research after an RB battle and 1300 RP for vehicle research, the player will now receive 1300 RP for both categories.

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Awesome change! This should make stock grind less grindy for RB players

[Gods_hammer 2,717]

Love the SB, keep upgrading the SB.

[__Reichtangle__ 344]

oh damn finally <3

[Packal 7,643]

Conqueror and Maus got too high repair cost in the SB. Compared to IS-4 (which is far better tank) are unusable at this cost.

Fairmile Ds at BR 3.7 in RB are too high. Those ships should be more useful at 3.3.   

Btw. 25.000cr repair in the SB of Stormer is also out of scale. Apr. 8.000 will be equal (Tunguska and ADATS are far better and cheaper).

Edited October 22, 2019 by Packal

[themlgwaffle2445 1]

Why does the leopard 2a5 have 2 different cost changes and why is the one only minus 210.

[QuantumLeclerc 213]

Why is the UH-1D, with armament options worse than the UH-1B, still 9.3? This is the same BR as the Mi-24D, when it only has 44 rockets with 10mm more pen than FFARs compared to the UH-1B, yet no 76x FFAR preset, no mixed gunpod and rocket preset, and no 40mm HEAT grenade machine gun.

Why is the Tigre HAD and UHT now 10.3, when the AH-1Z is still 10.0?

Why is the OF-40 MTCA 9.0 when the A1A1 120 and AMX 30 Super 8.7? It has no thermals and its best shell is DM23.

Why is the G-LYNX and Lynx AH 9.7 with Stingers and Hellfires, when the AH-1F/S with only TOWs, BO 105 with only HOTs/TOWs, and Gazelles with really poor armament options and only HOTs for ATGMs are also 9.7? In fact, the G-LYNX is considerably better than the Mi-24P and V, too.

[LuftWaffleIrons 17]

Thank you for the Updates so far it means a lot, however, OF-40 (MTCA) goes to 9.0 while the Leo A1A1 L44 with a faster reload, better round, equal mobility and survivability, and IR stays at 8.7? Come on comrades you can do better than that. 

[Lairy_Lemur 763]

39 minutes ago, Stona said:

 

• RP bonuses for RB and SB now extends also into modification research. For example, if a player received 1000 RP in the past for modification research after an RB battle and 1300 RP for vehicle research, the player will now receive 1300 RP for both categories.

 

Wait so, say I'm playing a tier 3 vehicle to fully upgrade it, however I'm also using it to unlock a tier 5 vehicle. My modifications on the tier 3 vehicle will now be nerfed due to the research inefficiency modifier of researching a vehicle 2 tier higher? Gee, thanks, another nerf, just what I needed.

[r4mun 14]

Whats about a balance about modification?

 

Looking @ german tree 

 

TAM/KPZ70 still got horrible costs on upgrades.

Possible do make a little balance there?

[kevador 3]

Hey, i like the changes i'm seeing but i'm really quite confused by the Leopard 2A5.

First of all, there's 2 Leopard 2A5's in the given list, both with different old and new costs.
Second, Neither of the changes given apply to it.

It's neither the 14790SL stock or spaded and it's deffinetly not 9700SL spaded or even stock.
I've attached some images so you can see for yourselves.

(Left is no upgrades, right is partially spaded, as you can see already over the 14790SL)

[DaBlitz_633 48]

When can we expect air battles to have the same decompression? Subsonic jets like the F86 and G91 production are suffering heavily.

[[email protected] 175]

The Super Mystere is listed twice with different repair changes, is it going up or down?

[Nox95 91]

Hmm i don't think the Challenger 2 needed another kick in the groin after being harassed as much as it is... If that thing goes to 10.3 then so should the T-64. The T-64 is faster, smaller and has better chances of bouncing a round. Additionally the T-64 with low ammo count has better survivability than the Challenger 2 with low ammo count when penetrated.

 

I think you guys need to take map design into account when you look at BRs. The T-64 can hide behind a medium-size bush while the Challenger can't even hide the hull behind it. Same goes for buses, walls and tank husks.

 

I'm wondering, do you guys just look at the raw output stats when you look at a tank or do you take the average stat of a player into account as well? I've noticed that British main players are generally pretty hard-core and have better stats than average when you look at their non-British stats. 

Even with my XM-1 I'm generally doing pretty well against Challenger 2s.

[[email protected] 171]

So Vickers and Centk10 are going higher not only in BR but in repair cost too? What is the logic in this? Don't get me wrong, I'm ok with 7.3 BR, but repair costs are too high. There is good lineup now with Conqueror together, but who gonna play it - it's just for millionaires. Conqueror is ridiculously overpriced. But at least, Caernarvon is 10SL cheaper now.

[MasterVile_GER 412]

Good changes, i really like the changes of M47/48 to 7.3

But...

 

Did you forget the Chinese M48A1? Its still on 7.7 and the same tank like the US M48. Pls fix

 

And also nice...Phantom and Mig 21 on 10.3..Very good for my 9.0´s ^_^

[SPANISH_AVENGER 11,713]

Thank you for all the reductions! Specially the Leopard 2A5 repair cost reduction, it was highly needed!

Edited October 22, 2019 by SPANISH_AVENGER

[Csocso 568]

1 hour ago, Stona said:

RP bonuses for RB and SB now extends also into modification research. For example, if a player received 1000 RP in the past for modification research after an RB battle and 1300 RP for vehicle research, the player will now receive 1300 RP for both categories.

 

I did not expect this one! Excellent!

[KilianL 830]

get the mouse guided atgm helis back up they ruin the lower part of tank RB ... we'll see entire teams of helis at 8.3 it makes no sense at all

[LaPlus Darknesss 674]

B-29 Full spaded price way to high, maybe considering lowering it some?

74,045 SL for something of that BR and low survival skills seems way to out of touch to play.

 

At this stage might of place it on the side, make it an optional thing to research as for playing it/ and researching it is a complete waste of time in my honest opinion 

 

Spoiler

 

[Firnen_ 8,253]

Is there any particular reason why the Chinese M48 was not lowered or was is just overlooked?

[TinyTinkerTank 170]

1 hour ago, Oscar_Muffin said:

 

Wait so, say I'm playing a tier 3 vehicle to fully upgrade it, however I'm also using it to unlock a tier 5 vehicle. My modifications on the tier 3 vehicle will now be nerfed due to the research inefficiency modifier of researching a vehicle 2 tier higher? Gee, thanks, another nerf, just what I needed.

Ehm no. You are getting more research points for your modifications now. Vehicle research wasn't affected by this at all. Rank differences also doesn't affect modification research speed. Nothing got nerfed with this change.
If I understood it right.

[DNS_Midnattsol 2]

Overall good changes, especially the way you spread the helicopters.

Can we still expect the balance run for the penetration changes? Some tanks like the T-34-85 were hit with very hard nerfs back then but their BR never was adapted, like many other vehicles.

[Savanne 455]

The BR changes are AMAZING.

I have been waiting for OTOMATIC nerf in BR and Mi-4 buff in BR. The ATGM carriers got buffed as well.

The MUCH needed decompression is finally here! Even got 10.3 BR now!

[king_martin 0]

Good change to decrease capping reward, finally players will shoot enemy instead capping over and over like crazy. Any further plans for improving SB? Like daily task for SB, implementation vehicle backups for SB in form of repairs and so on. 

 

Would you please consider freezing first row & column in your tables? Its really inconvenient to read it this way, especially if you SB player and all data are on left side. Row grouping or search filters would helps too.