server update Server Update (01.10.2019)

[Stona 72,288]

• Leopard 2K - The type of night vision modification has been changed from thermal imaging to infrared.
• Centauro, Centauro ROMOR, Begleitpanzer 57 - The type of night vision modification has been changed from infrared to thermal.
• AMX-30 - Modification for IR (infrared) night vision system has been added.
• Shot Kal Dalet, Type 61, Type 87, Type 75, Type 75 MLRS - Modification for IR (infrared) driver night vision system has been added. 
• M8 LAC - Shoulder stabilizer has been added.
• M60A1 (AOS) - The mass of the tank has been changed from 47.6 to 48 tons. Source: TM 9-2350-215-34-2-1.
• Centurion Mk.10 - the thickness of the additional armour plate at the front has been changed from 44 to 51 mm. The thickness of the gun mantlet has been changed from 200 to 152 mm. Source: Centurion 7,8,9,10 (fully modified) armour details, F.V.231921. Centurion 7,8 plate thickness, F.V.231921 // The Centurion Tank, Pat Ware, Brian Delf // Centurion Tank - Bill Munro, 2005
• T-80U - The minimum sight magnification value has been changed from 3.6-12х to 2.7-12х. Source: Сайт производителя // Танк Т-90С, инструкция по эксплуатации (аналогичный прицел 1Г46)
• M247 - The turret traverse guidance speed has been changed from 60 to 90 degrees per second. Sight magnification has been changed from 1.5-6х to a fixed 12х. Source: Manprint Analysis of the DIVAD System: Volume II. Lessons Relearned
• 3,7 cm Pzgr. (Flak 36, Flak 43) - Initial shell speed has been changed from 740 to 770 m/sec. Source: Einbaumappe 3,7 cm BK-43, Marz 1944 // Documentation W127.
• T25, M36 - A error in the designation of the default AP shell has been corrected. The default shell for this vehicle is M77.
• 105mm T32 shell - The speed of the shell has been changed from 975 to 914 m/sec. Source: RAC - Technical Situation Report No. 35, 1945 // Hunnicutt: Firepower - A History of the American Heavy Tank Data Sheet for Guns 105mm T5E1 and T5E2
• Type 63-I - Modifications window bug has been fixed, where the HEAT shell icon was displayed out of its borders.
• Sound events of explosions and gunshots now have brighter attack.Virtual sound channels loading of the sound engine has been optimized.
• Volume balance for ground vehicle guns, explosions and some aircraft engines have been slightly corrected.
• A bug with swapped male and female voice packages in the sound menu has been fixed.
• Search filters for camouflages from “Night Vision” and “Imperial Navy” trophies have been added to the market page. The list of filters will be updated when new trophies are added.
• Console users now have all recipes for creating items from trophies with camouflages in one tab in the workshop. Choosing recipes that belong to only one trophy can be selected in the drop down list.

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The current provided changelog reflects the major changes within the game as part of this Update. Some updates, additions and fixes may not be listed in the provided notes. War Thunder is constantly improving and specific fixes may be implemented without the client being updated.

[NoodleCup31 8,801]

Leopard 2k lost thermal?

Source please

 

52 minutes ago, Stona said:

M247 - The turret traverse guidance speed has been changed from 60 to 90 degrees per second

Oh nice, Kugelblitz too please.

Should have 60°/sec historically.

[Komrad_Raiden 19]

Hello and privet, I am very upset because of Leopard 2K losing its thermal sights. Are there any actual reasons for taking them away? Thanks.

[OldMachineNazara 407]

So...what about the Type 74G missing its thermal?

And what about the T-80B getting Thermal when it shouldn't historically?

And why is the resolution for so many thermal devices so low? Like 90% of the thermal imaging devices have 1st gen resolution when a lot should have 2nd and 3rd and even 4th.

Challenger 1 mk. 2 and mk. 3: Should have Generation 2 thermal
Challenger 2: Should have Generation 3 thermal
Type 90: Should have Generation 3 thermal
Type 74G/Kai should have at least Generation 2 thermal (It has no thermal right now, despite that being the whole point of its existence)
T-80B has thermal when it shouldn't
That's just the ones I know of.

[Retro_Mattbonn 4]

I have a question, were the shells on the M36 and T25 APBC-T and could they penetrate the frontal glacis of the Panther?

 

[OldMachineNazara 407]

14 minutes ago, ComradeVladimir_ said:

Hello and privet, I am very upset because of Leopard 2K losing its thermal sights. Are there any actual reasons for taking them away? Thanks.

The 2K was made during the same time as the MBT-70, which was pre-thermal. So from a simple guess, I'd say it's because it most likely never had thermal in the first place.

[Stona 72,288]

53 minutes ago, NoodleCup31 said:

Leopard 2k lost thermal?

Source please

 

Oh nice, Kugelblitz too please.

Should have 60°/sec historically.

 

50 minutes ago, ComradeVladimir_ said:

Hello and privet, I am very upset because of Leopard 2K losing its thermal sights. Are there any actual reasons for taking them away? Thanks.

 

35 minutes ago, KHEEEEENSCREAM said:

The 2K was made during the same time as the MBT-70, which was pre-thermal. So from a simple guess, I'd say it's because it most likely never had thermal in the first place.

 

It never had thermal, it was an error that it had it in game.

[Tiger猫猫虎 79]

31 minutes ago, KHEEEEENSCREAM said:

The 2K was made during the same time as the MBT-70, which was pre-thermal. So from a simple guess, I'd say it's because it most likely never had thermal in the first place.

Just look at any history book, or website, or anything... You should know that the Leopard 2 project starts several years AFTER the MBT-70 officially cancelled.

 

Yes, yes I know there's some source said that the thermal is an added to the Leopard2A1 and later variants. But...

Come on Gaijin. When the lowest BR for thermal sight is in 8.0, why you think it's OK to take away a BR 9.7 tank???

[SPANISH_AVENGER 11,713]

1 hour ago, Stona said:

Centurion Mk.10 - the thickness of the additional armour plate at the front has been changed from 44 to 51 mm.

 

Hmmmm... i have a sudden urge to use this tank...

[Agilaz 2]

54 minutes ago, KHEEEEENSCREAM said:

And what about the T-80B getting Thermal when it shouldn't historically?

T-80B has thermal when it shouldn't

A bit of speculation on my part here, but I believe what they are doing is adding upgrades from subsequent versions of the vehicles, where there are no major modifications to the vehicle itself, like adding ERA (T-80B with Kontakt-1 is supposed to be a T-80BV). I believe they did a similar thing with one of the T-64s?

More speculation as I struggle to find good documentation: The T-80UM is basically a T-80BV with Thermal Sights instead of the old IR. Where as the T-80U has a redesigned turret along with the other upgrades, making it too different to make it a modification of the T-80B in-game.

 

All of this is terribly confusing in the game, and should be stated outright by Gaijin in a way that is transparent. As it is I don't blame people for yelling "russian bias!".

[WayOfTheWolk 1,570]

Hi Stona, the AMX-30 (1972) & AMX-30 are still missing their IR projectors. We appreciate the aforementioned fix nonetheless.

 

 

 

[Dalless 520]

The tank engine sounds are still too low in third person view. It's actually louder when it's idling than when it gets going. From what I can tell, the engine sound is mostly on my woofer in 5.1 audio.  In standard four speaker sound, everything is fine with the engine sounds. So the engine sounds are in the low frequency range around 170 Hz to about 310 Hz. Now I can adjust it by using my equalizer and boosting those frequencies but I have to change my sampling rate to 48K from 96K in my sound card's settings. I don't want to do that as I want to keep sampling at 96K but my card won't let me for some reason (option is grayed out).

 

Also had to boost the 600 Hz frequency to hear the engine sounds once the tank is moving at speed. I guess the engine sound/rumble goes up in frequency when the engine is revving higher which makes sense.

Edited October 1, 2019 by Dalless
Added more info.

[PiRa 293]

@Stona

 

What about the XM-1 and Leopard A1A1 L/44? I can find no source of them having thermals either?

Edited October 1, 2019 by PiRa

[TwitchyNGL 582]

You nerfed the Centurion Mk 10s mantlet armour correctly, but forgot to model the steel behind it, its supposedly 8 inches thick of cast steel, quite important!

 

[chomiake 767]

1 hour ago, KHEEEEENSCREAM said:

And what about the T-80B getting Thermal when it shouldn't historically?

 

In one of my threads mod Smin1080p posted the following

 

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This is incorrect. T-80Us Thermal imagery was of Soviet origin and was present far before 2005. This is even evident at the Swedish tank trials where the T-80U present there had Thermal Optics fitted as well as other examples. Its entirely incorrect to say the T-80 did not have this capability until 2005. 

 

In addition, the T-80B also had this capability, so thats entirely correct and historical too. T-80B was fitted with the T01-P02-01 "Agava-2", system. Which we have replicated in game and you can find more information on here: https://thesovietarmourblog.blogspot.com/search?q=T-80#1a45 & 

I don't have access to reliable sources, but various sites mention the aforementioned agava 2 system as utilised since late 80s, so mounting them on t80b sounds possible.

[Razielkaine 4,856]

Is the shot kal only getting night vision in third person mode? Right now it doesn't work in gunner or binocular view.

[VforValenti 17]

Volume in ground battles is still too low, as since[1.91.0.87]

 

It has been slightly increased, but still too low.

Even maxed out, when my head is nearly smashed by the sound of other games and software, I barely hear significant sounds in WT. Please fix!!!

[[email protected] 4]

Turn the volume back up. I can barely hear my plane or anyone else. It was perfect where it was, except bomb explosion's. At least give us 110-120 volume control #'s. 

[Охраняет-Камни 6,630]

8 hours ago, Stona said:

Centauro, Centauro ROMOR, Begleitpanzer 57 - The type of night vision modification has been changed from infrared to thermal.

Btw shouldn't Sidam-25 have at least driver NVD? It has M113 hull and I think driver optics are the same.

 

8 hours ago, Stona said:

M8 LAC - Shoulder stabilizer has been added.

This thing shouldn't be a reserve, it is at least 1.7 material. Great 37 mm cannon, 12,7 on top, shoulder stabilizer, good mobility and survivability.

[Ouiche 12,199]

14 hours ago, TwitchyCarlos said:

You nerfed the Centurion Mk 10s mantlet armour correctly, but forgot to model the steel behind it, its supposedly 8 inches thick of cast steel, quite important!

 

 

Interesting.

[GhostOfCaliban 67]

The Sho't Kal Dalet is still missing its NVD for its gunners sight/FCS, and is still missing the addon armor on the UFP that Mk10's got. SKD's had that plate added when the Bet upgrade took place (the second upgrade the tanks received, before the Gimel upgrades that added new FCS and night sights and later Dalet upgrades which added the thermal sleeve, laser rangefinder and updated electronics), this armor is incorrectly modeled in game as the 5mm structural steel underneath the Blazer ERA plates on the UFP.

[AG3F2 1,632]

Please, please, PLEASE, fix the broken NSVT commander MG on the T-72A and T-80U. On the T-72A the gun aims much too high - on the T-80U the gun aims way too low. Please fix this. I've reported the T-80U but it seems to not yet have been fixed.. it's very annoying and has gotten me killed several times.

 

AG3F2

[OldMachineNazara 407]

23 hours ago, King_Tigess said:

Just look at any history book, or website, or anything... You should know that the Leopard 2 project starts several years AFTER the MBT-70 officially cancelled.

 

Yes, yes I know there's some source said that the thermal is an added to the Leopard2A1 and later variants. But...

Come on Gaijin. When the lowest BR for thermal sight is in 8.0, why you think it's OK to take away a BR 9.7 tank???

The Leopard 2K is not the same as the Leopard 2A0 or the other Leopard 2s that came after it.
The Leopard 2K was a different project, that ultimately led up to the Leopard 2. The Leopard 2K or Leopard 2 Keiler, is from 1969 to 1972, with the Leopard 2A0 being introduced in 1978. The MBT/Kpz. 70 project was cancelled in January of 1970.
So, yes, it was before thermal was a thing, and it was being designed and built during the last year of the MBT-70/KPz 70 project.

[Shrike142 1,682]

13 hours ago, Ouiche said:

 

Interesting.

Could we get an update of the status of the cent 10 armour?

You're fixed the mantlet, now just need to model the trunnion block. The mod I talked to indicated they had access to the full documents on the new mantlet and trunnion design. It is quite important that that gets modelled as well.

 

Also, do you know if the chieftains and centurions are getting a volumentic armour TLC patch?? That would be a very nice thing to get on top of this recent fix. They really need the extra help

[sartt 1,460]

On 01/10/2019 at 11:12, Landon51 said:

I have a question, were the shells on the M36 and T25 APBC-T and could they penetrate the frontal glacis of the Panther?

 

yes they did [en the panther