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Secondary, historical, paid skin for Me262 A-2a


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A proposal for secondary, historical, paid skin for Me262 A-2a (https://wiki.warthunder.com/Me_262_A-2a).


Main features:

- eye catching and beautiful ;)

- fully historical (of course, we reject the swastika)
- associated with a known pilot and combat event
- detailed, colorful source material in high resolution
- strongly different from the current one for Me262A2
- will be much more suitable for greener, darker maps
- unique in the context of all Me262s skins present in the game
- would be an expected alternative for those who are dissatisfied with the color shades of the current skin
(for details see rejected bug report: https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/408625-me-262-a2a-skin-revision/&tab=comments#comment-8128450)


 

Me 262 A-2a, W.Nr. 110613, '9K+DK' ("black D"), flown by Ofw. Hermann Wieczorek of 2./KG 51 - one of several Me262s pilots bearing Polish or Czech-sounding surname (among others let me recall Rudolf Abrahamczik, Georg Csurusky, Jorg Czypionka, Walter Krupinski and of course Walter Nowotny). On the 25th February 1945, while returning to Hopsten airfield after a bombing sortie on the Allied bridgehead in the area east of Linnich, W.Nr. 110613 coded 9K+DK was hit by Allied anti-aircraft fire, forcing the pilot to make an emergency landing near the village of Nottuln, we st of Muenst er .

Below hi-res visualization with detailed description of camouflage and markings:

(hi-res, click few times to fully enlarge)


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Source: Last Hope of the Luftwaffe: Me 163, He 162, Me 262 (Mini Topcolors) by: Maciej Góralczyk · Jacek Pasieczny · Simon Schatz · Arkadiusz Wrobel, Kagero, 2013, ISBN-10: 83-62878-71-1, p.14.


(hi-res, click few times to fully enlarge)

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source: Last Hope of the Luftwaffe: Me 163, He 162, Me 262 (Mini Topcolors) by: Maciej Góralczyk · Jacek Pasieczny · Simon Schatz · Arkadiusz Wrobel, Kagero, 2013, ISBN-10: 83-62878-71-1, p.15.



Below - a photograph taken in February 1945 by Luftwaffe personnel during the recovery of Me 262 A-2a W.Nr. 110613 of 2./KG 51 . While returning to Hopsten airfield after a bombing sortie on the Allied bridgehead in the area east of Linnich, W.Nr. 110613 coded 9K+DK and piloted by Ofw. Wieczorek, was hit by Allied anti-aircraft fire, forcing the pilot to make an emergency landing near the village of Nottuln, west of Muenster:


(hi-res, click few times to fully enlarge)

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(see also: http://falkeeins.blogspot.com/2017/12/me-262-kg-51-ebay-photo-find-230.html)

Oberfeldwebel Hermann Wieczorek

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Hermann Wieczorek joined the Luftwaffe in 1935 and served as a flight mechanic before training as a pilot. Upon qualifying, he served initially as a flying instructor before joining Oberfehlshaber Sud, under General Kesselring, flying photoreconnaissance missions in the ME-110 and JU-88 over Italy and North Africa. In June, 1944, he was transferred to 1./KG51, flying the ME-262 on the Western Front. Hermann flew the 262 in the action against the Bridge at Remagen and afterward until the end of the war.

Source: https://www.military-art.com/mall/profiles.php?SigID=900

 

 

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Open for discussion. :salute:

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I would definitely like to see a new skin for this aircraft, I really hate the default skin it came with. 

 

That being said, Gaijin doesn't bring in new skins anymore, especially for airplanes, they just rely on the WT Live to bring in a skin from there into their Marketplace chests, so I'd say try to find a skin on the WT Live page that fits well and try to get Gaijin to make that part of the pack. 

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47 minutes ago, Stavroforos said:

I would definitely like to see a new skin for this aircraft,

 

Thx for support. :)

 

47 minutes ago, Stavroforos said:

I really hate the default skin it came with. 

 

I would love this skin..if it only had the right shades. This is potentially one of the most beautiful and unique Me262s camouflage among historical ones. And developers have done a great job recreating the camouflage shapes and markings of the authentic Me 262 A-2a, 9K+BN, 5./KG(J) 51 "Edelweiss". Only shades of colors suck (most likely just by rendering settings for various light).

 

47 minutes ago, Stavroforos said:

That being said, Gaijin doesn't bring in new skins anymore, especially for airplanes, they just rely on the WT Live to bring in a skin from there into their Marketplace chests

 

Although I also have such an impression, this is not entirely true - skins for planes are sitill added, though rarely and irregularly. Last example:

Customization
[...]
F-100 — Two additional camouflages have been added.

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/445788-war-thunder-187-locked-on-changelog/&ct=1561292565

 

In addition, @Smin1080p assured me that Gaijin doesn't treat user made skins on the Marketplace as any kind of outsourcing, so they will rather continue making their own creations regarding decals, skins and camouflages.
 

 

47 minutes ago, Stavroforos said:

try to find a skin on the WT Live page that fits well and try to get Gaijin to make that part of the pack. 

 

I'm trying - but the only historical skins are created for Me262A1, not for A2.

 

 

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Another fully historical option:

 Me-262 A-2a "GK+YH" (big white "Y"), 1./KG 51.
 

Two shades of green (RLM 82/83) + additional "scribble pattern" + white markings:
 

 

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source: Me 262 Vol. 2 by J. Richard Smith and Eddie J. Creek, Classic Publications, 1998, ISBN-13: 978- 0952686736

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source: Me 262 Vol. 2 by J. Richard Smith and Eddie J. Creek, Classic Publications, 1998, ISBN-13: 978- 0952686736

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source: Me 262 Vol. 2 by J. Richard Smith and Eddie J. Creek, Classic Publications, 1998, ISBN-13: 978- 0952686736

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source: Me 262 Vol. 2 by J. Richard Smith and Eddie J. Creek, Classic Publications, 1998, ISBN-13: 978- 0952686736

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source: Me 262 Vol. 2 by J. Richard Smith and Eddie J. Creek, Classic Publications, 1998, ISBN-13: 978- 0952686736

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The skin has been made! 4k .dds swastika free: https://live.warthunder.com/post/853694/en/

As well as a swastika including version here: https://live.warthunder.com/post/853695/en/

Enjoy!all2.png.0f6c2c8eeb33e411a79d07547e6c0c0

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2 hours ago, yeahboiiiii said:

The skin has been made! 4k .dds swastika free: https://live.warthunder.com/post/853694/en/

As well as a swastika including version here: https://live.warthunder.com/post/853695/en/

Enjoy!all2.png.0f6c2c8eeb33e411a79d07547e6c0c0

 

 

Beautiful work! Thank you @yeahboiiiii!  After a few minor corrections (see private message) it will be marketplace ready...and marketplace star among historical skins.


@Smin1080p - could you keep an eye on it? ;)

 

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Really, really hope for it in 1.95 chest..

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On 15/12/2019 at 19:00, Einherjer1979 said:

Really, really hope for it in 1.95 chest..


So maybe in 1.97?

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This is really incomprehensible that we still have no secondary skin for Me-262A2 - neither in the hangar nor in the marketplace...while there is such camouflage at hand: 

 

https://live.warthunder.com/post/853694/en/

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Einherjer1979 said:

This is really incomprehensible that we still have no secondary skin for Me-262A2 - neither in the hangar nor in the marketplace...while there is such camouflage at hand: 

 

https://live.warthunder.com/post/853694/en/

 

 

 

Don't we have the Me-262A2 skin for the bare metal one?

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15 minutes ago, Solarmod said:

Don't we have the Me-262A2 skin for the bare metal one?


This "bare metal" marketplace skin is semi-historical and for Me-262A1 only.


Event Me-262A2 has only one default skin...which BTW is with wrong color shades:  

 

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On 09/10/2020 at 12:45, Einherjer1979 said:


This "bare metal" marketplace skin is semi-historical and for Me-262A1 only.


Event Me-262A2 has only one default skin...which BTW is with wrong color shades:  

 

Ah.

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On 11/10/2020 at 12:16, alou351 said:

Always need historical skins !

^^This

 

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On 11/10/2020 at 12:16, alou351 said:

+1

Always need historical skins !

 

On 14/10/2020 at 15:42, KH_Alan said:

^^This

 

+1

 

 

Thx for all support...maybe in NewPower update skin-pack / trophy chest we could get this one finally: https://live.warthunder.com/post/853694/en/

 

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Suggestion passed to the developers for consideration.

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