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Improved rewards for WW Commanders


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due to WW commanding being one of the most important parts of the entire operation. most squadrons have a single commander per operation who does not participate actively in ongoing battles. His/her job is to move armies and seize opportunities and openings during the match on tactical scale. For that reason, being the commander has a huge downside of not being able to earn points in the squadron leaderboard and therefore, even with great contribution, there are no rewards. 

Obvious answer is for multiple people to fill as others leave to collect points in active battles, however that leads to issues since we are all humans. Being human, we have our own ideas and points of view that others do not see or agree concerning certain actions. That will almost always lead to conflict.

Second idea would be that we use alt accounts on a laptop just to command the battle. Well, not everyone has an extra laptop or pc.

Ofcourse, there is a third option of rational agreement or plans, however, refering back to my first point. Its difficult to come to terms with different people.

As of season 1, there is no rewards for commanders of the operations; here are some ideas regarding that:

a) only one person can command an operation, and that person is the one that joins the squadron to the operation lobby

b) award commander with 600 pts for a victory in operation and 300 for a lost operation. 

c) if multiple commanders  are kept, awards points based on the battles started by individual commander, 30 pts for victory, 15 for defeat.

 

feel free to add on or object to anything i mentioned above

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Open for discussion. :salute:

 

Please note, that the Devs are aware of this and gave a statement in the last Q&A:

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Q. How will the most 20 active players from a squadron participating in World War mode be chosen for the award of the main prizes? Will it be available for the officer that is responsible for tactics on the map and isn’t participating in battles?

A. There is a statistic available inside the squadron panel which is visible in the “World War” tab. The players there will be sorted by rating and then awarded in the same sequence. This rating will be also added to the squadron rating in the squadron leaderboard.

Regarding officers: there can be up to 128 officers in a squadron and to award them would be strange and it would lead to abuse of the awards system. The main task of the officer is to help the players by doing the right thing, by allowing them to win awards thereby making the squadron stronger, by attracting new worthy members to a successful squadron. Success, recognition and popularity of the squadron is the award of its commander. We’re thinking of additional mechanics for identifying and rewarding successful commanders in the future, but we have other elements to improve or develop at the moment.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Princess_Pinch said:

Open for discussion. :salute:

 

Please note, that the Devs are aware of this and gave a statement in the last Q&A:

 

 

please note, that i presented simple ideas that can be implemented easily for the devs to consider simply because i do not share their oppinion that success, recognition and popularity of the squadron is the award for the commander. after all, its all for the cupons. :salute:

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yes please! I am generally stuck on the map the entire duration of a session at times, it would be nice to know I'm not just throwing away my personal rating every time I participate in a squadron operation.

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I would like to add contributions made for other actions, such as damage done via artillery strikes, sectors taken, and conversely damage to armies taken by artillery, sectors lost, and Ultimately as well operations ending in victory or loss should probably factor in somehow, given how crucial the map is to the operation's victory.

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The suggestion of Commanders needing rewards seems a bit silly.   As a Squadron Officer you have a reward.....getting to be the only one's able to play the WW Meta game.   You want a second reward????    Just make it open to anyone to command then (that ain't gonna happen I can hear the possessive screams now).  What you're asking for is a reward for those who are exclusively allowed to play a reward.

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1 hour ago, Daool said:

The suggestion of Commanders needing rewards seems a bit silly.   As a Squadron Officer you have a reward.....getting to be the only one's able to play the WW Meta game.   You want a second reward????    Just make it open to anyone to command then (that ain't gonna happen I can hear the possessive screams now).  What you're asking for is a reward for those who are exclusively allowed to play a reward.

 

squadron rewards are not divided equally, and the ranking for who gets a reward within a squadron are only tallied by contributions in battles. If someone spends all their time on the map directing the battles, they get no contribution, and thus potentially no reward.

 

this is why this suggestion exists. Commanding the map should contribute as much to squadron score (i.e. personal score within the squadron) as playing a battle.

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"If someone spends all their time on the map directing the battles, they get no contribution, and thus potentially no reward. "

 

You miss the point...….being WW Commander IS the reward.  If you think not....then lets just open it up to everybody.  Problem solved.  But 100% guarantee that's not what you want (?).

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8 hours ago, Daool said:

"If someone spends all their time on the map directing the battles, they get no contribution, and thus potentially no reward. "

 

You miss the point...….being WW Commander IS the reward.  If you think not....then lets just open it up to everybody.  Problem solved.  But 100% guarantee that's not what you want (?).

 

how is it a reward again? frankly it feels more like a thankless job on the part of Gaijin. Squadron mates appreciate it but Gaijin doesn't seem to treat it like it's worth anything.

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We have also found that Commanders are getting nothing, and are out of the running for top 20 because we are on the campaign map.  

 

The best fix is to 'give' the reward to all squadron players, or ones who were 'active' during the events, even if they only played a few hours.  The top 20 is not enough, we have more than 20 players who are doing World War, which means our Commanders are out of luck.  Our squadron might be different than others, we have a few players who want to get into the world war Campaign Map, but we have a plan to get more players learning how to operate the map anyways.  The issue being, people don't want to sit out the game and not get rating points, they would rather try for the free post-war tank. 

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