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British top tier wish list


Chieftain mk5/4
Chieftain mk11
Chieftian mk12
Chieftain 800/900
Centurion mk13
Chieftain sabre
FV107 Scimitar
Australian leopard a1a5
Mbt 80
Vickers MBT Mk 3 
Vickers MBT mk3m
Vickers MBT mk4
Vickers MBT 7/2

Stir 1
Stir 2
Challenger 1 MK1

Challenger 1 MK4

Challenger 1 MK2 with prototype L30

Challenger 2 prototype
Challenger 2 TES
Challenger 2 Megatron

Challenger 2 black Knight

Challenger 2 Streetfighter ll
Challenger 2 MK2 (BAE/ rheinmetall)
Warrier with 105mm
AS90

Stormer HVM

Tracked rapier

CAMM Land application

Boxer

Ajax

Upgraded warrior
 

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9 hours ago, duckmartin said:


Chieftain mk5/4
Chieftain mk11
Chieftian mk12
Chieftain 800/900
Centurion mk13
Chieftain sabre
FV107 Scimitar
Australian leopard a1a5
Mbt 80
Vickers MBT Mk 3 
Vickers MBT mk3m
Vickers MBT mk4
Vickers MBT 7/2
Stir 2
Challenger 1 mk1

Challenger 1 MK2 with prototype L30
Challenger 2 CLP
Challenger 2 clip
Challenger 2 Megatron
Challenger 2 MK2 (BAE/ Rheinmetall)
Warrier with 105mm
AS90

Stormer 
 

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14 hours ago, duckmartin said:


Chieftain 800/900

Stormer 
 

I assume you mean the Stormer Milan? Or do mean the Stormer 30 (30mm bushmaster with 2 ITOW launchers), or the Sormer starstreak missile system. 

 

Funny thing is there's a version of the Chieftain 900 that had a modified turret from the Chieftain 2000 which mounted the Marconi FCS

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22 minutes ago, Battered_Walrus said:

I assume you mean the Stormer Milan? Or do mean the Stormer 30 (30mm bushmaster with 2 ITOW launchers), or the Sormer starstreak missile system. 

 

Funny thing is there's a version of the Chieftain 900 that had a modified turret from the Chieftain 2000 which mounted the Marconi FCS

Do you mean this one?

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There was also the Stormer Air Defence

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31 minutes ago, Mercedes4321 said:

Do you mean this one?

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There was also the Stormer Air Defence

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Didn't know about that variant of the stormer. That Turret for the chieftain but mounted on a cheiftain 900 chassis. I'll go through my pictures when I'm home, but it's shown in the Haynes cheiftain owner manual after covering the chieftain 2000.

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57 minutes ago, Battered_Walrus said:

I assume you mean the Stormer Milan? Or do mean the Stormer 30 (30mm bushmaster with 2 ITOW launchers), or the Sormer starstreak missile system. 

 

Funny thing is there's a version of the Chieftain 900 that had a modified turret from the Chieftain 2000 which mounted the Marconi FCS

sorry forgot to put down what versions. But the Milan and the starstreak missile one.

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i put a suggestion in about the alvis stormer and they arent accepting sams at the moment yet it was a laserguided missile system for the starstreak platform 

 

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I'm just gonna dump this here. some bits can be ignored as I've not gone though the list to remove the useless/pointless stuff.

 

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FV101: Scorpion Light tank with 76 mm gun

FV102: Striker 5 Swingfire missile launchers.

FV103: Spartan APC

FV104: Samaritan ambulance

FV105: Sultan Armored command vehicle

FV106: Samson ARV.

FV107: Scimitar Light tank with 30 mm Rarden Cannon

FV109: Workhorse - replacement for FV432

FV120: Spartan with Milan compact turret

FV201: "Universal Tank" (A45) 17 pdr gun (later 20 pdr)

FV207: An SPG variant on the basis of the А45 Conqueror. It was planned to mount either a 105-mm, 140-mm, or 152-mm howitzer in a closed armored cabin. The vehicle existed only in blueprints.

FV209: Universal ARV - not built

FV212: "Assault Personnel Carrier" - not built

FV214: Conqueror gun tank.

FV215a: Heavy AVRE based on Conqueror hull - not built

FV215b: 183mm gun on Conqueror heavy tank chassis. Project cancelled 1950s

FV217: SP 120mm medium - project cancelled

FV219: ARV Mk I FV201 variant . Eight completed.

FV221: Caernarvon Medium gun tank. FV201 variant.

FV222: Conqueror ARV Mk.II

FV301: 21 ton light tank with 77mm gun (based on A46) Project cancelled in 1953

FV302: GPO/CPO Command Vehicle based on FV301

FV303: 20pdr Self Propelled Gun based on FV301

FV304: 25pdr Self Propelled Gun based on FV301

FV305: 5.5 inch Self Propelled Gun based on FV301

FV306: Light Armored Recovery Vehicle based on FV301

FV307: Radar Vehicle based on FV301

FV308: Field Artillery Tractor based on FV301

FV309: RA section vehicle based on FV301

FV310: Armored Personnel Carrier based on FV301

FV311: Armored Load Carrier based on FV301

FV400: 17.6 ton tank with 77 mm gun

FV401: Cambridge series of carriers

FV402: Armored Observation Post vehicle

FV420: Tracked Load Carrier, 5 ton.

FV421: Cargo Carrier. FV432 predecessor.

FV422: Personnel Carrier

FV423: 5 ton Carrier Command vehicle

FV424: Carrier Royal Engineers

FV425: Carrier REME (REME stands for Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers)

FV426: Carrier Tracked Launcher, Orange William HESH AT missile

FV432: Armoured Personnel Carrier (APC).

FV433: Abbot self-propelled gun 105 mm SP gun on FV432 chassis

FV434: Armoured Repair Vehicle - Engineering version of FV432

FV435: Wavell communications vehicle

FV436: Trial version of FV432 variant fitted with Green Archer radar, did not enter service. Number subsequently used for brigade and division HQ staff vehicles.

FV437: Pathfinder vehicle based on FV432 with snorkel gear.

FV438: Swingfire anti-tank missile carrier.

FV439: Signals version of FV432.

FV510: Warrior Mechanized Combat Vehicle (MCV).

FV511: Warrior Infantry Command Vehicle

FV512: Warrior Repair Vehicle

FV513: Warrior Recovery Vehicle

FV514: Warrior Observation Post Vehicle

FV515: Warrior Battery Command Vehicle

FV601: Saladin

FV603: Saracen

FV604: Saracen Regimental CP

FV610: Saracen RA CP (high roof)

FV622: Truck Cargo Amphibious, 6 x 6, Stalwart

FV701: Scout Car Liaison, Ferret Mk 1/1

FV703: Scout Car Reconnaissance/GW, Ferret Mk 2/6

FV704: Scout Car Liaison Ferret Mk 1/2

FV711: scout Car Reconnaissance, Ferret Mk 4 (Big-wheeled)

FV712: Scout Car Reconnaissance/GW, Ferret Mk 5 (Big-wheeled)

FV721: Combat Vehicle Reconnaissance (Wheeled), Fox Mk 1/2

FV722: Reconnaissance Vehicle (Wheeled), Vixen Mk1

 

FV1103: Leyland Martian Medium Artillery Tractor, 10-ton, 6 × 6 Leyland

FV1119: Tractor 10-ton Heavy 6 × 6 Leyland Recovery

FV1601: Truck Cargo 1-ton 4 × 4 GS, Humber

FV1609: Humber Pig prototype

FV1611: Truck 1 Ton, Armoured 4 × 4 Humber Pig

FV1612: Humber Pig FFW/FFR

FV1613: Humber Pig Armored Ambulance

FV1620: Humber Hornet Truck 1 Ton, Air-portable Launcher, 4 × 4 Hornet (Malkara launcher)

FV1801A: Truck, 1/4ton, CT, 4 × 4 Austin, Mk.1. (Austin Champ)

FV1802: Truck, Utility, CT, 4 × 4, Austin (prototypes only)

FV2721a: Trailer - Centurion AVRE

FV3011: Semi-trailer, 50 Ton - used with Thornycroft Antar tractor unit

FV3601: Trailer Transporter 50-ton

FV3621: Trailer Low-loader 20-ton

FV3801: Gun Tractor Centurion components

FV3802: 25pdr SP Artillery Field Equipment's Centurion components

FV3803: Command Post Vehicle Centurion components

FV3804: Ammunition Vehicle Centurion components

FV3805: 5.5 inch SP guns Prototype only

FV3806: 7.2 inch SP Gun Centurion components

FV3901: Churchill Linked ARK

FV3902: Churchill VII Flail also known as "TOAD"

FV3903: Churchill VII AVRE Tank Infantry Dozer

FV3904: Churchill VII APC

FV4001: Centurion mine clearer

FV4002: Centurion Mk 5 Bridge layer

FV4003: Centurion Mk 5 AVRE 165 Centurion AVRE 165

FV4004: Conway (prototype)

FV4005: Heavy SP AT Gun (prototype)

FV4006: Centurion ARV Mk 2

FV4007: Centurion Mk 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 8/1, 8/2

FV4008: Centurion DD

FV4009: Tank, Medium

FV4010: Tank Destroyer, Medium Malkara missile vehicle on Centurion chassis

FV4011: Centurion Mk 5

FV4012: Centurion Mk 7/1, 7/2

FV4013: Centurion Mk 3 ARV

FV4014: Tank, Medium

FV4015: Centurion Mk 9

FV4016: Centurion ARK Bridge layer

FV4017: Centurion Mk 10

FV4018: Centurion BARV - Beach Armored Recovery Vehicle

FV4019: Centurion Mk 5 Bulldozer

FV4030: Shir series Designed for Iran. Challenger predecessors

FV4030/2: Shir 1 120 mm MBT Challenger predecessor. Renamed Khalid for supply to Jordan

FV4030/3: Shir 2

FV4030/4: Challenger 1

FV4034: Challenger 2

FV4101: Cromwell Heavy AT Gun

FV4201: Chieftain tank

FV4202: "40 ton Centurion" 105 mm gun Chieftain predecessor based on Centurion Mk 7

FV4203: Centurion AVRE 105

FV4204: Chieftain ARV Mk 5 and ARRV (Armored Repair and Recovery Vehicle)

FV4205: AVLB Chieftain Bridge layer

FV4207: Centurion Mk 9 VHF

FV4211: Experimental tank.

FV4333: Stormer APC

FV4401: Contentious - British experiment along S-Tank lines for lightweight tank. 3 prototypes.[2][3]

FV4501: Armored mine clearer

FV4601: MBT-80 (3 experimental vehicles).

 

And just for Chieftain :D

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The Mk.1 Chieftain.

 

The Mk.1 was the first production vehicle and was fitted with a 585bhp L60 engine. The Hull was of welded rolled steel plate with a cast glacis plate. The turret was cast steel with a rolled steel plate roof and bustle. The turret was fitted with a No.11 Mk.1 commander's cupola with split hatches. The Main gun was the L11.

 

Mk.1/1

 

Basic Mk.1 with automotive improvements to exhaust system and addition of main engine air cleaner restriction warning (the L60 strikes again)

 

Mk.1/2

 

Basic Mk.1 with No.15 Mk.1 Cupola in place of a No.11 Mk.1 cupola. Improved exhaust system, improved smoke dischargers. Top rollers fitted with floating seals. Four headlights with two IR and two white. Main engine air cleaner restriction warnings.

 

Mk.1/3

 

Basic Mk.1 modified to Mk.1/1 and "totem pole" conversion (see "other bits")

 

Mk.1/4

 

Mk.1/2 with "totem pole" conversion 11 examples converted to Chieftain Mk.6 AVLB.

 

The Mk.2

 

Fitted with 650bhp L60. New turret with improved ballistic protection. No.15 Mk.2 cupola fitted. New exhaust system and rear hull sealing for deep wading operations. Improved engine louvers for better cooling and accessibility. Mk.1/2 modifications incorporated during manufacture. 

 

Mk.2 (X)

 

Mk.2 with "X" "totem pole" conversion only.

 

Mk.2 (Y)

 

Mk.2 with "Y" "totem pole" conversion only.

 

Mk.2 (Y)/L

 

Mk.2 with fitting of "L" kit for TLS (Tank laser sight) C or No.1 Mk.1 TLS

 

Mk.2 (Y)/1

 

Mk.2 with TLS No.1 Mk.2 or No.3 Mk.1 and stage 1 Muzzle Reference system (MRS)

 

Mk.2 (Y)/2

 

Mk.2 on completion of TLS No.1 Mk.2 and MRS installation.

 

The Mk.3

 

Basic Mk.2 with stronger suspension units, oil filled axle arms, track tensioner and top rollers. Improved life 650bhp L60 Mk.6A with fan drive and dust extractor fitted. Improved performance and reduced weight H30 Mk.10A GUE. Improved starting system for low temperature operations. Improved ammo stowage fittings. Improved trackguards. No,15 Mk.2 commanders cupola fitted with periscope angled to minimize solar reflection also fitted with L37A1 7.62mm Machine gun. Improved 12:1 ration parking brake. easier access to rear of turret for gun barrel removal.

 

Mk.3 (X)

 

Mk.3 with "X" "totem pole" conversion only.

 

Mk.3 (Y)

 

Mk.3 with "Y" "totem pole" conversion only.

 

Mk.3 (Y)/1

 

Mk.3 with "L" kit for TLS "C" or No.1 Mk.1.

 

Mk.3 (Y)/2

 

Mk.3 on completion of TLS No.1 Mk.2 and MRS installation.

 

Mk.3/G

 

Originally classified as Mk.3/1 the vehicle had turret air breathing for engine aspiration. Only 6 of this model were built at ROF Leeds for Iran but were transferred to the British Army in 1969.

 

Mk.3/2

 

Modified Mk.3/G to test turret air breathing and normal engine aspiration. Commanders cut out switch for main engine and own firing switch fitted. Prototype laser mounting and wiring also fitted. Only 17 of these vehicles were built at ROF Leeds for the British Army.

 

Mk.3/S

 

Production model of Mk.3/G with turret air breathing facility as well as normal engine aspiration. Improved main engine air cleaner system. Reduced capacity of main engine oil tank and modified lubrication pipe work for new air cleaner system. Commanders cut out switch for main engine and commanders firing switch fitted. New type of gunner's hand wheel with firing switch fitted. Anchor block for HESH extractor tool fitted. 40 were built at ROF Leed the "S" stands for "Sandman" represented the synthesis of the Israeli trials of Chieftain.

 

Mk.3/3 and Mk.3/P

 

Mk.3/S with modified hull to except 720bhp engine. Improved engine air cleaner, reduced capacity of main engine oil tank. Exhaust system twin silencers replaced by a single expatiation chamber. Engine and transmission louvers redesigned and mesh screen added. Fuel tank isolation valve fitted. No.59 Gunners day sight fitted with gradicule for use with extended ranging gun ammunition and production type laser mounting and wiring. Redesigned NBC pack No.6 Mk.1. Drivers hatch securing clamps redesigned. The P of Mk.3/3P standing for Persia as 44 or the 100 built at ROF Leeds were for Iran.

 

The Mk.4

 

Two vehicles built at ROF Leeds to Israeli specification but Israeli production order canceled in December 1969. 02SP96 and 02SP96 (the two Israeli Chieftains) were completed in 1970 and underwent desert trials at the US army proving ground in Arizona in 1971. 02SP96 subsequently reworked with Hydro-gas suspension system as part of the FV 4030 development program.     

 

 

First the Mk.5 standard and Mk.5/P

 

The Mk.5 is the definitive Chieftain model and is developed from the Mk.3/3. It is fitted with a 720bhp L60 Mk.7A engine with a strengthened gearbox, new low restriction exhaust system, revised air cleaning filters for GUE, battery heating and lagging for enhanced starting. The engine covers and transmission covers were also revised.

 

The turret is fitted with the improved No. 43 gunner's telescope and commanders collimator fitted with graticule for extended range. Ammunition for the ranging gun was reduced by 50% The ammo charge bins were modified and ammunition stowage was increased to 64 rounds of 120mm ammo for the L11. The L11 was fitted with a new thermal sleeve and the gun clamp design was revised. No.37 Mk.4 commander's sight, infrared detector and No.6 Mk.2 NBC pack also fitted. Commander's cupola machine gun capable of elevation to 90 degrees.

 

Mk.5/P for Iran built to same standards.

 

The Mk.7A L60 engine

 

Where to start......The Mk.7A had a new cylinder block introduced with re-positioned port belt deflectors. The redesigned liner had 9 air ports and 10 exhaust ports. The connecting rod clearance slots were reduced at the air end. The piston featured a central bowl and the crown screws were locking in by Helicoil. Injection timing was 18 degrees, reverting to 16 degrees before exhaust TDC. The exhaust flanges were now bolted. A Twin-bodied heat exchanger was introduced together with new radiators. There were changes to the fan speed and blade settings. Casco MLF replaced Wellseal and in July 1972 Belzona was used behind the liner seals.

 

Mk.5 sub marks.

 

Mk.5/L: Mk.5 with fitting of "L" kit for tank laser sight "C" or No.1 Mk.1

 

Mk.5/1: Mk.5 on completion of of TLS (Tank Laser sight) No.1 Mk.1 or No.3 Mk.1 and MRS (Muzzle reference system) installation.

 

Mk.5/2: Mk.5 on completion of TLS No.1 Mk.2 or No.3 Mk.1 and MRS installation. The Mk.5/2K built for Kuwait is the same as the Mk.5/2.

 

Mk.5/3: Mk.5 on completion of TLS, MRS and improved fire control system (IFCS) and modifications to the commanders cupola. The Mk.5/3P was stage 1 of the FV4030 project for Iran which had increased mine protection, extra fuel capacity, shock absorbers on the first and third suspension bogies and an automatic gearbox.

 

Mk.5/4 Mk.5 with modifications for stowage of APFSDS ammunition and a revised sight graticule.

 

Now for the Mk.9, 10 and Mk.11

 

Mk.9: Mk.5/4, Mk.6/4, Mk.7/4 and Mk.8/4 on completion of full APFSDS ammunition stowage.

 

Mk.10: Mk.9 with Stillbrew passive armor and other survivability modifications including the No.11 Mk.1 NBC pack

 

Mk.11: Mk.10 fitted with TOGS (Thermal observation and gunnery system)

 

Other bits

 

Totem Pole: The "Totem Pole" conversion program was undertaken to upgrade earlier Chieftain marks to a similar fire control system and automotive standard as the Mk.5 with the later 750bhp Mk.8A L60. It was divided into three aspects "X", "Y" and "Z". "X" was mainly concerned with the fire control system, "Y" and "Z" related to automotive improvements of Chieftain.

 

The "X" program was instituted to make the sighting system compatible with the extended ranging gun ammunition by modifying the gunners day sight and telescope as well as the commanders collimator with new graticles. Other improvements were made to the sight mountings and coupling links.

 

The "Y" program introduced numerous modifications and improvements including: Low-loss air cleaner for the L60, 12:1 ration parking brake, commander's firing switch and engine cutout, TLS sight mounting and modifications to the gunners day and night sights, Changes to sight stowage and revised air cleaner system for GUE.

 

The "Z" program was originally intended to be undertaken during base workshop overhaul and mainly involved modifications to enhance the reliability of the L60 engine and regularize the build standard of the Chieftain fleet. But it also included improvements such as oil-filled running gear assemblies, better metadyne cooling, fitting of the No.6 Mk.2 NBC pack and a new gun clamp. The program was extended to incorporate improvements such as power supply boxes and fittings for the Clansman radios. All Marks of Chieftain fitted with Clansman radios from the Mk.2 onwards have the suffix C given to them for example a Mk.5/4C Chieftain would be a Mk.5 Chieftain with APFSDS stowage and Clansman radios.

 

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11 hours ago, TerikG2014 said:

Let's not forget the Vickers mk11 "viper" long range patrol vehicle 

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I managed to get that thing into 1 game, after tens of hours of research sadly I cant find where the damn thing or extensive info on it to give gaijin a suggestion to go find it, I just know its in the UK somewhere. (if found, it could help them implement both this and possible a VFM-5 given it is the same turret, but the VFM-5 is in the US light hull used for M8 AGS and other vehicle designs).

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1 hour ago, mitchverr12345 said:

 

I managed to get that thing into 1 game, after tens of hours of research sadly I cant find where the damn thing or extensive info on it to give gaijin a suggestion to go find it, I just know its in the UK somewhere. (if found, it could help them implement both this and possible a VFM-5 given it is the same turret, but the VFM-5 is in the US light hull used for M8 AGS and other vehicle designs).

Well good new I already have made a suggestion for it did my level best to research it well to. And it is in the UK all though I wouldn't say it's in a fit state for research having been badly damaged in a fire 

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I'm hoping someone digs up records that show that someone thought to bolt a recoil-less rifle to the roof of a Ferret armoured car. It'd give the British something that approaches the meta of no armour is best armour.

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11 minutes ago, Sparkbox said:

I'm hoping someone digs up records that show that someone thought to bolt a recoil-less rifle to the roof of a Ferret armoured car. It'd give the British something that approaches the meta of no armour is best armour.

They did (in South Africa specifically)

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On 18/02/2019 at 00:42, *oppsijustkilledu said:

 Post below what you would like to see added and why. 

 

Just because

 

 

 

 

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36 minutes ago, *RAazzy91 said:
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Just because

 

 

 

 

As the people who want an independent Swedish tree grumble in the background.

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On 18/02/2019 at 01:14, Baron_Tiberius said:

This is the list I came up with a few weeks back. This is assuming that SACLOS based SAM will be added at some point. I also included the 7/2 but I had made this before it was shot down officially, suppose its still a wish.

 

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Just want to point out on the CR2 part the L29 is a practise round and made from steel. 

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3 minutes ago, Mercedes4321 said:

As the people who want an independent Swedish tree grumble in the background.

 

We colonise tech trees too

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2 hours ago, *RAazzy91 said:

 

We colonise tech trees too

It certainly would be an interesting tank to have, even if the justification is a bit loose. 

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