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HEAS (proximity fuse HE) for Type 79 Anti-Ship Anti-Tank Missile


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do you need HEAS for Type 89 FV?  

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  1. 1. do you need HEAS for Type 89 FV?

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In game Type 89 Armored Fighting Vehicle have Type 79 Anti-Ship Anti-Tank Missile Launcher. Now we can use only HEAT shell, but this is "Anti-Ship" missile so it have "HEAS" shell, too.

 

According to document of Japan Defense Agency, this missile can launch 2 types of missile for operation. They call them "誘導弾AS"(Missile AS) and "誘導弾AT" (Missile AT).

 

Warhead of "Missile AS" is thin-wall HE (薄肉榴弾, high-capacity projectile) with proximity fuse.

Its fuse operate when direct hit to enemy landing craft or pass its over to detect change of geomagnetism.

 

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Need to select HEAT or HEAS. I think HEAS shell should unlock by research.

 

1. Attack enemy light armored / open top vehicle behind of barrier

Able to attack nasty anti-tank SPGs hiding hills.

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2. Attack enemy helicopter doing outrage-attack by missile

It range is only 4km, but it is easier than SPAAs to aiming far distance helicopters.

 

Sources

防衛庁 (昭和54年4月13日) 「制式要綱 79式対舟艇対戦車誘導弾 P 1006」

(Web Archive) Japan Defense Agency (Aptil 13, 1959) "Official Style Outline, Type 79 Anti-Ship Anti-Tank Missile, P 1006"

Sadly, in this document its explosives mass is secret.

 

4 hours ago, Tasty95215 said:

Thanks for the correction. I think I did find the proper blueprint for the anti-ship missile:

 

 

iz1979p1007_006.gif

 

And here's the revised version of the blueprint:

 

iz1991p1007b_009.gif

 

These were found from files P 1007 and P 1007B.

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Open for discussion. :salute:

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This seems very interesting! It'd be fun to use, and would help the Type 89 IFV be a bit more unique compared to the other nations' IFV's. Being better at attacking helicopters would be nice too. Although the explosive mass is a secret, the Type 79 missiles are pretty big, being 150mm, so I assume that they would have a large TNT equivalent.

 

Also, I found another version of the file that includes the blueprints of the missile: http://web.archive.org/web/20040114012327fw_/http://jda-clearing.jda.go.jp:80/kunrei/i_fd/iz1985p1006b.html

 

iz1985p1006b_005.gifiz1985p1006b_008.gif

 

The specifications are also listed in this table (though I don't know what it says):

 

iz1985p1006b_003.gif

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2 hours ago, Tasty95215 said:

The specifications are also listed in this table (though I don't know what it says):

 

iz1985p1006b_003.gif

I guess it will be common specification of HEAS and HEAT.

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Unit: mm

Item

Numbers

Missile

Length

1565

Diameter

152

Rear wing

Wing span

470

Wing chord

60

Center of mass

787 (from head of missile)

Mass (kg)

33

Launcher

Length

1700

Diameter

202

Mass (kg)

9

 

 

 

 

Also this will be anti-tank shell (AT)

2 hours ago, Tasty95215 said:

 

iz1985p1006b_008.gif

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I see no reason to not add this. +1

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13 hours ago, aizenns said:

Also this will be anti-tank shell (AT)

 

Thanks for the correction. I think I did find the proper blueprint for the anti-ship missile:

 

 

iz1979p1007_006.gif

 

And here's the revised version of the blueprint:

 

iz1991p1007b_009.gif

 

These were found from files P 1007 and P 1007B.

 

Unfortunately, there's still another blueprint showing how the missile is put together that's missing. For comparison, these were the two blueprints for the anti-tank missile:

 

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iz1985p1006b_008.gifiz1985p1006b_009.gif

 

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Very interesting, it will destroy tanks in Hull-down positions or tanks in cover. +1 japan should get this at some point, will also make it easier to shoot down annoying helis at 4km or closer. A good counter weapon for them helis.

 

 

It's similar to this right?

 

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I think there's a typo in the OP: this paper is from 1979 (Showa 54) not 1959 (Showa 34).

 

Also +1, I'd love to see this as an upgradeable module for the tank!

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Can we get this in game please for Anti helicopter measures and what do we have to do to get them ? all that is needed is  to bind a key to change the type settings on the ATGM in game to Prox fuze instead of shaped it could be down with a touch of a button. 

 

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With the Tunguska, Bradley ADATS, and likely even more insane semi active SAMs to come, this suggestion needs to become reality now more than ever.

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Suggestion passed to the developers for consideration.

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As the Type 79 HEAS has been implemented for the Type 89 FV with update 2.9 Direct Hit,

 

Moved to Implemented Suggestions. :salute:

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