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5/11/18 1.83.0.46 - Potez 633 - Bombsequence false?

Hi Team,

 

Bombsequence of both Potez 633 and Potez 631 are different:

 

 

 

Potez 633

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2x 100kg --> drop both at once

2x 200kg --> drop both at once

 

 

 

Potez 631

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2x 100kg --> drop one by one OK

 

 

 

Source --> https://warthunder.com/en/game/changelog/current/798

"Potez 631 - Possibility of separate dropping for 100kg bombs has been added."

 

 

 

Unfortunately I dont have any other sources on this, but i am quite sure you guys have some in your archives, because you changed it on the Potez 631 and its really unlikely that the "bomberversion" Potez 633 couldn´t drop the 100/200kg one by one.

 

 

 

Thank you

Brgds

 

Noir89

 

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Research:

http://www.ww2warbirds.net/ww2htmls/pote63.html#pote632

 

http://greek-war-equipment.blogspot.com/2010/10/1939-1941-potez-633.html

" 2 x 220 kg on external rail carriers" - some say internal bombbay, but external rail seems more often mentioned.

 

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.airwar.ru%2Fenc%2Fbww2%2Fpotez633.html

"pictures + list of sources"

1bs.gif Andrey Krumkach. Light bomber Potez 632 \ Potez 633
1bs.gif Aircraft Profile 195. Raymon Danel. Potez 63 series (Translated by V. Moiseev)
1bs.gif Vladimir Kotelnikov. World War II bombers of 1939-1945
1bs.gif Aviafrance. Un siecle d'aviation francaise. Potez 633
1bs.gif AirMagazine. Jose Fernandez. Les Potez 63
1bs.gif AeroJournal. Christian-Jacques Ehrengardt. Le Potez 630, 631, 633
1bs.gif French Aircraft of World War II
 

 

https://en.valka.cz/topic/view/1077/Potez-633-B-2

" The Potez 633 retained the fuselage, wings and engines of the 631 but the observer's position and cannon gondolas were deleted and a small bomb bay was added between the pilot and rear gunner. Front armament consisted of a single light machine gun in the nose. The bomb bay could house eight 110 lb or two 440 lb bombs. "

 

 

https://www.passionair1940.fr/Armee de l'Air/Appareils/Bombardement/Potez-633/EN-Potez633.htm

" The Potez 633 B2 is identical to the Potez 631 fighter, but the place of the Observer is replaced by a bomb bay capable of carrying 8 bombs of 50kg."

"pictures+ list of sources"

1) _ Editions LELA PRESSE ; Collection "Les Ailes de la Gloire"
- N°9 : Les Potez 63

2) _ Editions MMP ; Collection "Orange Séries"
- N°8109 : Potez 63 Family

 

 

Cockpitview:

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Update:

Nothing specific about the sequence, but i found following:

1.) read multiple times about 700hp on takeoff (https://www.passionair1940.fr/Armee de l'Air/Appareils/Bombardement/Potez-633/EN-Potez633.htm) of the engines (652 hp on takeoff ingame)

 

2.) "The Potez 633 retained the fuselage, wings and engines of the 631 but the observer's position and cannon gondolas were deleted and a small bomb bay was added" the Potez 633 seems like more or less the same as 631. But my point would be similar planes like a Bf110 or Pe-2 / Tu-2 can drop bombs one by one too - and as the 633 is a modified 631 (which should can drop them one by one, because warthunder wouldnt implement it afterwards if isnt possible) the 633 should have the same tools in the cockpit as the 631 to do so.

 

3.) i found out that on Potez 631 and Potez 630 the observer is Missing:

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Sry that escalated a bit  :) - if i should take the missing Observer to another thread i will do so.

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A historic source is really important.  Try looking for this?

I did a quick look, not much, as expected.

 

Look around, post some links you think may be useful.

Thanks.

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@Noir89, all of it is welcome!!

Will help in making the correction.

 

Your Bug Report is submitted.

 

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Thank you for helping us improving the game.

 

Sincerely,

Pony51, for the ™ team

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This thread is archived.

It will also serve as a place where the developers may post questions for you to answer, so please keep up to date here.

 

Thank you for helping us improving the game.

 

Sincerely,

Pony51, for the ™ team

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