( Update 23.09.2018 )

 

Add suggestions from forum and reddit:

 

  • Multiple way to access a Minor Tech Tree
  • Dynamic MM system for Minor Tech Tree
  • Canada is moved from American Continent group to Commonwealth group
  • Romania is moved from from Western Minor Axis Powers (Italy) group to Western Axis Powers (Germany) group

 

 

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This idea is base on previous suggestion: Suggest about tech-tree : Tab for everyone !

 

 

 

Hello everyone, I am a player from China. :salute:

I love modern Chinese tanks, I hope War thunder can introduce more Chinese tanks, like Type 96 or Type 99.


However, although China have many unique tanks after 1960s, it still lack domestically developed tanks during WWII and Korean War.
Not to mention aircraft and incoming navy.

 

Here is Chinese tech tree in Chinese server.

I find these detailed pictures from this reddit post.

 

Chinese Ground forces Tech Tree

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Chinese Aircraft Tech Tree

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We can see there is barely no domestic vehicle before rank V.
Almost everything are clone from USSR, USA and Japan, not very original.

From my opinion, I don't like copy-paste vehicles in tree.
Research a same vehicles and play it again is unbearable for me, I believe many player feel the same way.
The reason for Chinese server to add this tree is because the patriotism has a huge potential market in China.
but I don't think it is practicable in our server.

 

 

 

New unlock system for introduce Minor Tech Tree

 

 

Revelation from the new unlock system of helicopter tech three and this suggestion: Suggest about tech-tree : Tab for everyone !

 

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How to unlock a new Tech Tree:

 

Just like helicopter three, once a Main Tech Tree unlock progress reach the target, Player can access to Minor Tech Tree.

 

For example:

France tree reach rank IV / research and purchase AMX-13 -> access Israel tree

USSR tree reach rank V / research and purchase T-54 (1951) -> access China tree

Britain tree reach rank V / research and purchase Vickers MBT -> access India tree

 

 

 

How to solve the problem that Minor Tech Tree lack domestically developed vehicle:

 

Since Minor Tech Tree is related to Main Tech Tree, we can combine their lineup together.
A USSR player can use  T-54(1951) and Type 59 in the same battle, so there is no need to filling clone vehicle in Minor Tech Tree.

 

 

 

About Crew slots:

 

Minor Tech Tree can have their own Crew slots, which display with Main Tech Tree Crew slots parallelly.


For example:

 

               crew 1       crew 2      crew 3     crew 4    crew 5

USSR: |  T-55A   |   T-55AM   |  T-62M  |  MiG-17 |  IL-28   |
China: | Type 59  |  Type 59D | Holiday | Holiday | Holiday |

 

 

So player can use both USSR (Main Tech Tree) and China (Minor Tech Tree) vehicle in the same battle.

This will enrich the lineups of every tech tree in the game now greatly.

Minor Tech Tree can fill up most of gap in the Main Tech Tree.

 

 

 

About RP gaining:

 

We know that RP converting is a main part of War Thunder income.
so the research perhaps will be same as helicopter: player may only gain RP to research Minor Tech Tree vehicle whilst using the vehicles from that tree.

 

 

 

Idea of Tech Tree Classification:

 

Here is an idea of classification which is modifying from original post (base on 7 Main Tech Tree and probably incoming Swedish tech tree):
This classification criteria is base on military relationship, geo-relationship and the vehicle design concept.

 


Commonwealth: Britain / Australia / New Zealand / Canada / India / South Africa


Western Allies: France / Belgium / Netherlands / Greece / Israel


Western Axis Powers: Germany / Czechoslovakia / Romania


Western Minor Axis Powers: Italy / Croatia / Bulgaria / Hungary


Warsaw Pact / Communist: USSR / Poland / Yugoslavia / China / North Korea


American Continent: USA / Brazil / Argentina / Chile


Pacific Axis Powers / Asia Pro-American Powers: Japan / Manchukuo / Thailand / South Korea / Taiwan


Scandinavian / Neutral power: Sweden / Norway / Denmark / Finland / Switzerland

 

 

 

For example (This example picture is from the original thread):

 

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***************************************************************************************************************************************************

 

( Update 23.09.2018 )

 

Add suggestions from forum and reddit:

 

  • Multiple way to access a Minor Tech Tree
  • Dynamic MM system for Minor Tech Tree
  • Canada is moved from American Continent group to Commonwealth group
  • Romania is moved from from Western Minor Axis Powers (Italy) group to Western Axis Powers (Germany) group

 

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Multiple way to access a Minor Tech Tree:

 

Consider that Helicopter Tech Tree can be accessed by both rank V ground vehicle or aircraft tree.

Minor Tech Tree could available in the same way.

 

 

1. A Minor Tech Tree can be accessed by different Main Tech Tree

 

For example:

 

A player can access Canada Tree by reach specific progress in USA tree or Britain tree.

 

USA tree reach rank II / research and purchase M4A1 Sherman  -> access Canada tree

Britain tree reach rank II / research and purchase Cromwell V -> access Canada tree

 

 

2. In some cases, different part of a Minor Tech Tree need to be accessed by different Main Tech Tree

 

For example:

 

Romania Tech Tree is combined by two different part: Kingdom of Romania and Socialist Republic of Romania.

 

Germany (Italy) tree reach rank II / research and purchase Panzer IV F2 (P40)  -> access Kingdom of Romania (Low Tiers of Romania Tree)

USSR tree reach rank V / research and purchase T-54 (1951) -> access Socialist Republic of Romania (High Tiers of Romania Tree)

 

 

 

 

Dynamic MM system for Minor Tech Tree

 

 

Take Poland for instance, after Revolutions of 1989, Poland joined NATO in 1999.

so it's reasonable to see following two lineups : 

 

1. NATO vs. Warsaw Pact (including Poland)

2. NATO (including Poland) vs. Russia

 

 

When a player put only Poland vehicles in his lineup (without any vehicle from USSR tree), he will have a chance to join a battle which is NATO (including Poland) vs. Russia.

This could help reduce the waiting time in queue.

 

 

 

 

 

Everyone is welcome to comment and make your valuable suggestion.

Hope you guys like this idea, Thank you for watching. :D

 

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( Update 23.09.2018 )

 

Add suggestions from forum and reddit:

 

  • Multiple way to access a Minor Tech Tree
  • Dynamic MM system for Minor Tech Tree
  • Canada is moved from American Continent group to Commonwealth group
  • Romania is moved from from Western Minor Axis Powers (Italy) group to Western Axis Powers (Germany) group

 

Thank you guys! :D

 

 

 

And also thanks to those pathfinder. :salute:

 

 

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I like this idea, I would like to see south Africa as a minor nation within the British tech tree or part of a bigger commonwealth tech tree.

Its worth checking out some post war south African military vehicles. I have a list under my 'about me' page.

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would this solve the issue with the american spitfires?  currently there is only 1 american spitfire in game (the premium MKIXc) when in fact the US flew various models throughout the entire war.  these include MKI's MKII's MKV's MKIX's and later models.   

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