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The vehicle was used widely by British Commonwealth forces during the Second World War. Universal Carriers were usually used for transporting personnel and equipment, mostly support weapons, or as machine gun platforms.The early Carden-Lloyd tankettes from 1933 were the very basis for the Universal Carrier. Originally, these machines were invented by Major Giffard LeQuesne Martel, who developed a prototype privately, for potential requests from the Royal Army Corp. He was a military engineer and a daring tank strategist.

 

Specifications 

Weight: 3 ton

Length: 12 ft (3.65 m)

Width 6 ft 9 in (2.06 m)

Height: 5 ft 2 inch (1.57 m)

Crew: 3

Armour: 7–10 mm

Engine: Ford V8 petrol 85 hp (63 kW) at 3,500 rpm

Suspension: Horstmann

Speed: 30 mph (48 km/h)

 

2-pounder QF Universal Carrier Australian

The Australians produced their own designated 2-pdr carrier with a generally improved design that gave the gun full 360 degrees of traverse.

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2-pounder QF Universal Carrier Canadian

Slightly better performance than the British version. More crew space too.

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2-pounder QF Universal Carrier

The standard configuration for mounting a 2-pdr quick firing anti-tank gun on the Universal Carrier was done like so with the gun on a limited mount of traverse and extra armor added to the front of the vehicle.

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Universal Carrier .50 caliber

Universal Carrier with .50 caliber and Bren gun could be used as a low tier aa.

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Universal Carrier Boys AT

The British Boys .55 Anti-tank rifle is really somewhat lacking in the role it was given (British officers could not find a single instance of the Boys knocking out a German tank during any part of Operation Crusader.

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Bren Carrier

The most common set-up for the Universal Carrier was mounting standard infantry Bren light machine-guns, usually one through the armored pintle at the front and one on a more exposed AA mounting.

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Universal Carrier with a Stuart Turret

Not much is known other than it's a field modification.

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Universal Carrier PIAT

Mounted on the Universal Carrier they were arranged in a sort of indirecte Universal Carrier they were arranged in a sort of indirect barrage set-up While technically an indirect fire weapon it only had a Maximum range of about 320 meters paling in comparison to conventional mortars of the time which could reach out to three kilometers.

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3,7 cm PaK 36 auf Selbstfahrlafette Bren(e)

This was essentially a German 37mm anti-tank gun mounted on a captured Universal Carrier.

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4 cm PaK 192 (e) auf Selbstfahrlafette Bren(e)

This was essentially a German 37mm anti-tank gun mounted on a captured Universal Carrier, these vehicles fought in France and some even survived until the Normandy Landings.

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4,7 cm Pak 188 (h) auf Selbstfahrlafette Bren (e)

Another use of a captured gun, this time the Böhler 47mm, taken from Dutch army stocks. During the German invasion of Netherlands, this gun was used near Rotterdam against the 9th Panzerdivision, knocking out no fewer than 25 German tanks and a considerable number of armored cars. It's worth noting that the conversion was made by the famous Baukommando Becker, responsible for several oddities and converted vehicles in German service.

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2,5 cm PaK 112 (f) auf Selbstfahrlafette Bren (e)

After France fell, the Germans got their hands on massive amounts of French military equipment, including hundreds of 25mm French anti-tank guns. Several Universal Carriers were converted to use this gun and were operated during the North-African campaign. 

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Panzerjäger Bren 731(e) mit 8.8cm Panzerschreck

Possibly the most famous German Universal Carrier conversion. Three 88mm Panzerschreck launchers were mounted on the vehicle, producing an improvised tank hunter. The vehicle also carried up to six troops armed with Panzerfausts. They were used in Normandy in 1944.

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2 cm Flak 30/38 auf Bren Carrier (e)

These vehicles used for the air defence of German convoy in North Africa. Armed with french 25mm SA 34 cannon.

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Bren (e) mit Panzerbüchse 39

Some Universal Carrier Boys AT were converted by replacing the Boys AT rifle with the German Panzerbüchse 39.

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Source

http://www.materielsterrestres39-45.fr/fr/index.php/vehicules-de-capture/72-allemagne-vehicules-capture/beute-panzer-angleterre/569-universal-carrier-2-cm-flak-30-38-auf-bren-carrier-e

http://beutepanzer.ru/Beutepanzer/uk/APC_universal/universal-AA.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Carrier

http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/10/27/universal-carrier-in-german-service/

http://tankery-roblox.wikia.com/wiki/Universal_Carrier_2_pdr

https://www.militaryimages.net/media/captured-bren-universal-carrier.24487/

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50 minutes ago, Razielkaine said:

never seen the stuart turret version before. thats cool

I have a growing suspicion that it is a "museum mod", and not actually a legitimate conversion.

 

It has the rather infamous museum plaque that states "Birtish tank" on it after all, think its in Israel.

 

Personally, I'd like to see the Smith Gun Carrier, as an amusing 1.0. It'd be near useless, but Dad's Army has gotta get a look in!

 

Version 1:
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Version 2:

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There was also a 25-Pounder Carrier:

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And another AA one:

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http://www.wardrawings.be/WW2/Files/1-Vehicles/Allies/3-UK/06-SPG/SPG/File/Others-SPG.htm

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1 hour ago, TheFuzzieOne said:

I have a growing suspicion that it is a "museum mod", and not actually a legitimate conversion.

At attempt to replicate an actual Stuart by placing it's turret on a equally boxy UC hull perhaps?

 

1 hour ago, TheFuzzieOne said:

Personally, I'd like to see the Smith Gun Carrier, as an amusing 1.0. It'd be near useless, but Dad's Army has gotta get a look in!

After reading pages 216-217 of this the gun at least doesn't sound all that bad for very low tier derping :yes_yes_yes:.

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The 54 inch, low-velocity, smoothbore, barrel fired a 6lb, 3in calibre, finned HEAT round, with an effective range of 200 yards (100 yards ‘best’).

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The Smith Gun could penetrate 3.15 inches (78.75mm) of armour

I could see this working in CQC at least. I wonder if that 78.75mm penetration is at 30°? 88.59mm(?) penetration at 0° would be quite good.

 

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and an 8lb fragmented cast iron anti-personnel round, fitted with a No. 245 fuse, or the ubiquitous No. 247 ‘Bakelite’ fuse. This was effective at 650 yards, ‘best’ being 150 yards.

A shrapnel round à la 76mm KT-28 perhaps?

 

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The gun could also fire high explosive or smoke 3in mortar bombs

 

 

If anything it'll be funny to see the reactions to "HEAT-FS coming to low tier" :D.

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4 hours ago, TheFuzzieOne said:

I have a growing suspicion that it is a "museum mod", and not actually a legitimate conversion.

 

It has the rather infamous museum plaque that states "Birtish tank" on it after all, think its in Israel.

 

Personally, I'd like to see the Smith Gun Carrier, as an amusing 1.0. It'd be near useless, but Dad's Army has gotta get a look in!

 

Version 1:
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Version 2:

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There was also a 25-Pounder Carrier:

LoydCarrier-25pdrHowitzer-1.Tanks.jpg

 

And another AA one:

LoydCarrierAA.Tanks.jpg

 

http://www.wardrawings.be/WW2/Files/1-Vehicles/Allies/3-UK/06-SPG/SPG/File/Others-SPG.htm

I would love to see the Smith Gun Carrier. The museum was El Alamein, Egypt I went there and UC Stuart seemed legit it had the Turret ring and everything. it won’t hurt to have a extra UC.

 

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Does Anyone know if the UC 2-pdr could be added to WT?

I would love to see and Play it.

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I mean, the Tier 1 SPAA that UK and France get are almost definitely worse than this thing. It'd be nice to see Universal Carriers on North African maps, but we don't need the wacky versions, just a Bren or 20mm Carrier. Light Tank designation would be nice. 

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we now have the German Squeezbore (isn't it odd they got it first than the British could get the Littlejohn adapter?) and the Italian CV3 with the Solothum AT rifle, there's really no reason to argue against the Boys AT variant, furthermore the 2pdr and 6pdr carriers would "fit like a glove" at Rank 1

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Universal carrier with Boys and Piat please. There is absolutely no reason whay a Piat could not be fired from within the vehicle...

 

 Though another interesting and potentially very useful option would be the 3" mortar. Whilst UC's often carried mortar crews as dismounts I seem to recall the Aussies had a version which fired from within the vehicle. Also the 2" mortar, which UCs pretty much carried by default for indirect or direct fire.

 

 Course there were also specialist UCs for artillery spotting. 

 

 My favourite vehicle of WW2, and so many options for some remarkably interesting gameplay. Especially given it's incredibly low height.

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On 02/03/2020 at 10:03, tinygerman26 said:

First off yes please. The Boys AT version could possibly come since we got the L 3/33 CC.


I don’t think the Boys AT version would have enough penetration. It’s considerably worse than the gun on the L3. 
 

Any of the 2-Pdr variants or captured cannon variants could work though.

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