Simulator Battles Lineup Rotation

[Paul__C 764]

On 03/01/2022 at 04:28, Steelbeast said:

8x quite slow 3.7km manually guided missiles are not exactly team wiping material.

 

Have you flown the BO 105 CB-2 in sim ground battles? 

 

They may be slow but they are still faster than any other heli atgms in that lineup by 50% and everyone else only gets 4.

 

So you have twice as many atgm's which fly 50% faster on a very manoeuvrable and fast air frame.

[Steelbeast 558]

15 hours ago, Paul__C said:

 

Have you flown the BO 105 CB-2 in sim ground battles? 

 

They may be slow but they are still faster than any other heli atgms in that lineup by 50% and everyone else only gets 4.

 

So you have twice as many atgm's which fly 50% faster on a very manoeuvrable and fast air frame.

Yes I do..

 

There are other helis with 6 ATGMs in that rotation including UH-1C X-30 with 6 I-Tows which Bo has.

 

So yes it is a light frame with 0 damage tolerance and it is easily counter able by WZ305/ZSU-37-2 or any plane. It is a good chopper in that lineup but nowhere near game breaking like Vikhr equipped helis in top lineup. Where would this heli would be absolutely doomed like all other 9.3 helis.      

[ZdrytchX 1,261]

so I noticed they removed tiger IIs from maus lineup. Sure 10.5cm vs T-54 1947 wasn't great, but neither is the T-44 (85) vs maus or maus vs heck even the T-54 1947 before it got its discarding sabot round (frontal penetration area was literally the size of the gun spread area at 500m lol)
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Really though, what we need is to split top tier lineups.
Current rotation seems to be 1-3-2-5-4-6 for lower tier and for upper tiers it seems to be 7-8-10-9
like its literally only 4 lineups and the order is something like this:
7: Maus vs T-54,
8: Leopard 1 vs Zsu-57-2 (this has to be one of the most pointless lineups tbh since eastern bloc gets almost nothing new, and lost a bunch of suitable vehicles like the BMP-1)
9: Leopard 1A5 vs T-62M (has to be one of the most pay to win lineups in the game
10: Main battle tanks vs Hover-Kancers.

Lineup 9 desperately needs to be split. Vehicles like the T-55A and the T-62 with mediocre rounds are shoved alongside the modernised versions of themselves such as the T-62M which has a very competitive APFSDS capable of fighting top tier (but for some reason got removed from lineup 10 with the addition of new premium TURMS) and the T-55 AM-1 which is fairly nimble. Both modernised versions shrug off HEAT-FS most of the time and the NATO 105mm L7 APDS shell.

In addition to this problem, the only vehicles with thermals in this lineup are either event, recently added or premium vehicles such as the japanese type 74G or the WMA-301 which is a wheeled TD with tandem atgms, thermals, stabiliser, proximity HE and 335mm DM23 APFSDS.
Most wheeled TDs in the game aren't even in this lineup with exception of the centauro with the 350mm M735. Both of these TDs coincidentally have thermals.

Helicopters, are the literal definition of pay to win, with the exception of the "minor" nations like japan (only has access to uh-1b), italy (basically has a worse huey with a machinegun).
By this you can ask yourself, what are the top dog helicopters of this lineup?
Answer:
USA: premium UH-1C-XMsomething (premium) (has TOW missiles and grenade launchers I hear),
Germany: premium Bo-105 (has countermeasures and TOW missiles, 6x SS.11s), 
USSR: premium Mi-24D (basically an Mi-24V minus R-60s and gets falangas instead of shturms)
France: premium Allouette III (with 6x BMP-1 missiles ^{which should also be on the Mi-4 instead of falangas}, and extra S-5 rockets)

To add salt to the wound, a lot of helicopters that aren't in this lineup suffer against the meta that is top tier with vhikrs. In 12 minutes, I earned enough SL (125k) equivalent to 2 hours of playing EC (usual game with a 3:1 KDR), just by flying the ka-50 and vhikr'ing the poor NATO helicopters that stood no chance.

In case that wasn't enough and you didn't think helicopters like the AH-1S (early) weren't useless enough, take a look at the series of vehicles recently added to the game: IR MANPADS. I'm talking Type 93, Ozelot and the SIDAM 25 (Mistral).

The type 93 is a very interesting vehicle as I'm sure a lot of you guys know from those videos of people flying the car in RB, but ever since the vehicle was added over one and a half years ago, I have never seen a type 93  do anything remotely useful in simulator battles. Sure they can speed cap zones, but I've yet to even see anyone do that without blowing up on the way.
At least the, SIDAM 25's got guns, but I've never seen them hit anything with their missiles. But why is this an issue?
For one, who the hell flies that close to the battlefield with SAMs in the area?
Number two, What's the meta? Mi-28NM and Ka-52/50 spam from long range. They just don't stand a chance, they literally can't even fight back.
What about the jets you say? Well, who the hell flies jets into tank battles with SAMs in the area? Yeah, that worked out well. At least with the recent arrival of automated guided weaponry such as the maverick missile, we've been starting to see more jets into tank battles. Unfortunately, a lot of these jets can get very expensive quickly. Why fly a jet when an mi-28 is cheaper than your starter heli, and heck even cheaper than some rank 1 aircraft in the game?

In short, I have a request to the guy who manages the sim lineup balancing: Please focus on the issues that matter first.

I'm sure it'll take you less than half an hour to think it through, but half an hour can mean the night and day between a satisfactory game, and a satisfactory game can mean the difference between people buying or not vehicles like the AH-1S premium, which doesn't fit into the game as it is. A simple decision like that could mean the difference of extra revenue or not.

 

Just remember: We can live with a few game breaking bugs here and there, but without a game, well, there's nothing to pay for.

[Paul__C 764]

5 hours ago, ZdrytchX said:

Current rotation seems to be 1-3-2-5-4-6 for lower tier and for upper tiers it seems to be 7-8-10-9
like its literally only 4 lineups and the order is something like this:
7: Maus vs T-54,
8: Leopard 1 vs Zsu-57-2 (this has to be one of the most pointless lineups tbh since eastern bloc gets almost nothing new, and lost a bunch of suitable vehicles like the BMP-1)
9: Leopard 1A5 vs T-62M (has to be one of the most pay to win lineups in the game
10: Main battle tanks vs Hover-Kancers.

 

It's really bad for flying helis in sim as well. 

 

You only have 2 lineups that include helis, starter helis and then top tier.

 

The starter heli lineup is actually mostly balanced with the exception of the BO CB-2.

 

The top tier lineup is a complete mess and is dominated by Ka-50/52 spam. 

 

We really need to add a 9.0 bracket in with the intermediate helicopters and maybe drop of the cold war lineups. 

 

 

6 hours ago, Steelbeast said:

Yes I do..

 

There are other helis with 6 ATGMs in that rotation including UH-1C X-30 with 6 I-Tows which Bo has.

 

So yes it is a light frame with 0 damage tolerance and it is easily counter able by WZ305/ZSU-37-2 or any plane. It is a good chopper in that lineup but nowhere near game breaking like Vikhr equipped helis in top lineup. Where would this heli would be absolutely doomed like all other 9.3 helis.      

 

The UH-1C X-30 only has 6 vs 8 on the BO and the Hueys are awful to fly in sim (with m&k anyway) due to lack of stability damping.

 

I'm not asking them to put the BO against Ka-50 spam. I'm asking them to add a lineup in between 8.0 and 11.7 so these helicopters have a place to fit in.

[Steelbeast 558]

14 hours ago, Paul__C said:

The UH-1C X-30 only has 6 vs 8 on the BO and the Hueys are awful to fly in sim (with m&k anyway) due to lack of stability damping.

 

I'm not asking them to put the BO against Ka-50 spam. I'm asking them to add a lineup in between 8.0 and 11.7 so these helicopters have a place to fit in.

Hueys are not awful to fly they actually feels like real heli which requires constant controls input correction to fly steadily and the dampen mode is bull crap.

 

The lineup we have with early helis  is up to 9.0 BR. 8.0 lineup is without helis. And definitely yes, all 9.x vehicles are doomed in top tier lineup.

[_Wienerslinky_ 128]

In the current 'rotation' the mig21 bis sau is literally unplayable in EC sim. please fix this. The only reason its unplayable is because sim goes up to 11.0, the mig21bis sau is the only 11.3 in sim currently

Edited January 21, 2022 by _Wienerslinky_

[Pexitron 216]

On 17/06/2018 at 17:06, Packal said:

France is a part of NATO, not Warsaw Pact, it is west country, not east, behind Iron Curtain, there is no reason to get France to the same side as Bolsheviks.

No, it is possible and normaly in Warthunder, France can not be considered as an Nato member. France leave OTAN by Générale DeGaulle in 1966, and glad he do it. But sadly return in the end of year 2007 because of "Nicolas Sarkozy" ...stupid traitor

 

I know its an old post, but i search if something gonna move the stupid bracket system who make many planes i want use impossible like 9.7/10.3 must fight 11.0

I want play my Milan and other planes i very like.

Edited June 22, 2022 by Pexitron

[ApeOfApes 35]

22 hours ago, Pexitron said:

No, it is possible and normaly in Warthunder, France can not be considered as an Nato member. France leave OTAN by Générale DeGaulle in 1966, and glad he do it. But sadly return in the end of year 2007 because of "Nicolas Sarkozy" ...stupid traitor

De Gaulle only left NATO's integrated command structure, not the Treaty itself. Despite what modern misrepresentations might tell you, France never left NATO and stayed a US ally during the whole Cold War.

Pretty embarrassing to resurrect to resurrect a 4 years old post without informing yourself beforehand...

[SteadyWombat 0]

Yes

[MKev 7]

Can somebody explain to me why there are only 2 Stages/Cycles running each 24 hours? Nobody can tell me that we have only very few players interested in Ground SB. I would love to decide each day if I want to play Tanks in BR ranges like 2.7 or 10.0 and find a place to play. Sim Battles are the only mode in Game I really like. In Sim AIR I can choose multiple Lineups no matter what BR I prefer. But in Ground SB I only get two decisions every 24 hours. Thats stupid. Why not 4 or 5 stages that rotate BR and Countries every 24 hours? Ficitonal Lineups with countries and Historical. Something for everyone. It can't be that hard. Right now it is not worth grinding USSR for me, since its almost impossible to find enough USSR players for a SB game. The Queue takes forever. Why is nobody giving this Sim Battle game mode some love? It seems nothing is changing for years in Ground SB and all Gaijin is doing over the years is messing around with Air SB Economy to destroy every little piece of Sim Fun thats left in this Game. That's how it feels like.

 

regards.

Edited April 1 by MKev

[Fan_Hunter 110]

Who was the superior inteligent who put the CV90105 in the rotation with the T55?

[Paul__C 764]

The QN506 has been added to the lineup with lower tier helicopters, it has fire and forget missiles and outranges every single helicopter it faces, not to mention the tanks that it can easily wipe out.

 

@Smin1080p @Smin1080p_Tech (not sure which is the correct smin) Please can we get the sim brackets reviewed and some decompression at the upper tiers? 

We really need a 9.0-10.3 style bracket to allow the vehicles that are far too strong to face 8.0 but far too weak to face 11.7 a place to play. 

 

Please consider this urgently, it would definitely help bring more players in if the line-ups were more balanced

Edited April 21 by Paul__C

[TOMSONE 1,212]

On 21/04/2023 at 04:45, Paul__C said:

The QN506 has been added to the lineup with lower tier helicopters, it has fire and forget missiles and outranges every single helicopter it faces, not to mention the tanks that it can easily wipe out.

 

@Smin1080p @Smin1080p_Tech (not sure which is the correct smin) Please can we get the sim brackets reviewed and some decompression at the upper tiers? 

We really need a 9.0-10.3 style bracket to allow the vehicles that are far too strong to face 8.0 but far too weak to face 11.7 a place to play. 

 

Please consider this urgently, it would definitely help bring more players in if the line-ups were more balanced

Only this modifications? Lol There still merkava's & cv 105 in 9_2 & no t-72 A & ztz equivalent, since 3-4 years now don't execpt anything for ground sim from gaijin.

They just hazardly launch new vehicules in any bracket at every updates. Exemples All the planes shoulb moved to lower bracket in 8_2 & 9_2  All this planes (except A32) can't do anything vs Veak M247 & PGZ 80. It's finger in the nose pigeon shooting.

 

[_TheCrimsonKing_ 503]

The 9_2 lineup could use an update.

Add the T-72A, the VRCC Centauro and the AMX 32 (105), and perhaps better SPAA like the LAV-AD, the Strela, the PGZ04A, the SIDAM Mistral, the VAB Santal, the Type 93, the Machbet... in short, the MANPAD SPAAs.

 

[TOMSONE 1,212]

Just now, _TheCrimsonKing_ said:

 the MANPAD SPAAs.

 

Nope M247 VEAK& Chinese zsu 57 are already tooo OP for planes without IR AAA, no way.

Or we extend planes list to 9.7 and open to CCIP planes.

 

[_TheCrimsonKing_ 503]

3 minutes ago, TOMSONE said:

Nope M247 VEAK& Chinese zsu 57 are already tooo OP for planes without IR AAA, no way.

Or we extend planes list to 9.7 and open to CCIP planes.

 

I've played 9_2 recently and very few people if nobody plays planes... it's only Mi-24s and Alouettes all around really

[TOMSONE 1,212]

21 minutes ago, _TheCrimsonKing_ said:

I've played 9_2 recently and very few people if nobody plays planes... it's only Mi-24s and Alouettes all around really

Confirmation of what I said AAA are already OP in 9_2 & Kill planes gameplay.

+ Planes cost 2X the repair cost of tanks in 9_2.

With the total unbalancing between nato & communist this rotation is dead.

[ULQ_LOVER 6,253]

Maybe people who want to play planes actually play Air SB? Ground needs such SPAAs in order to deal with any air threat and not be stomped like crazy as it is happening in higher set ups. 

[_TheCrimsonKing_ 503]

1 hour ago, TOMSONE said:

Confirmation of what I said AAA are already OP in 9_2 & Kill planes gameplay.

+ Planes cost 2X the repair cost of tanks in 9_2.

With the total unbalancing between nato & communist this rotation is dead.

Perhaps that is because Ground SB is meant for GROUND vehicles??? As ULQ LOVER said, if you want to play planes, there's Air SB... 

I believe it is reasonable to want to engage other tanks in my tank when I'm playing GROUND Simulator Battles

The main issue is helicopters in Ground SB. The fact that you can first spawn them WITH ATGMs, at the nearest helipad and with the engines on is insane. It's not like this in Ground RB...

There's SPAAs that can't even reach helicopters, for example the SIDAM 25, that only reaches 2.3 kilometers with the HE shells... and that's not the only SPAA that has a limited range. The Mi-4 and Mi-24 can sit comfortably at nearly 4km... and the Z11WA can sit at 3km.

 

[TheMightySardine 1,418]

Just now, _TheCrimsonKing_ said:

Perhaps that is because Ground SB is meant for GROUND vehicles??? As ULQ LOVER said, if you want to play planes, there's Air SB... 

I believe it is reasonable to want to engage other tanks in my tank when I'm playing GROUND Simulator Battles

The main issue is helicopters in Ground SB. The fact that you can first spawn them WITH ATGMs, at the nearest helipad and with the engines on is insane. It's not like this in Ground RB...

There's SPAAs that can't even reach helicopters, for example the SIDAM 25, that only reaches 2.3 kilometers with the HE shells... and that's not the only SPAA that has a limited range. The Mi-4 and Mi-24 can sit comfortably at nearly 4km... and the Z11WA can sit at 3km.

 

They can´t sit comfortably at 4km, cause York will blown em up from sky. And planes should be in ground sim, just like they are in ground RB due to the ability to have CAS. T-64A vs CV90105,Merkava 2D and other way better tanks in this lineup compared to USSR/China is the real issue. T-64B,T-72A and even T-80B could be added to this lineup together with ZTZ96,ZTZ96A and more, so it will be balanced a bit, cause rn its NATO domination.

[ULQ_LOVER 6,253]

5 minutes ago, TheMightySardine said:

They can´t sit comfortably at 4km

Of course, they need to click "A" and "D" from time to time to not be hitted, but that is too hard I guess. 

[TOMSONE 1,212]

2 hours ago, ULQ_LOVER said:

Maybe people who want to play planes actually play Air SB? Ground needs such SPAAs in order to deal with any air threat and not be stomped like crazy as it is happening in higher set ups. 

Explanation for tankers who don't know what is air SB:

-Planes in SB is far more harder than RB.

-First Fighter/ attacker/ bomber are not the same thing.

-Nope their is no CAS in AIR SB . CAS main goal is pound resistance points, to make progress your ground units.

-Air SB is just fighter clash or Zomber land.

-In air Sb if you focus on ground unit, you can't check the air in same time you are dead.

-What is the interest to pound bots without any impact on the game with all this massive risk & repair cost. There is no place for attackers in AIR SB .

 

So this is why there is the heart of the game, the main argument of warthunder, COMBINED battles. If you want to play tank game play WOT.

 

1 hour ago, _TheCrimsonKing_ said:

The main issue is helicopters in Ground SB.
 

 Yes Helicopters technologies & spawn. Choppers with the same technological era as planes at this rotation will neeeever make any problems.

Best CAS plane in 9_2 is the A32 1955. Planes era in this event is 1944 (meteor)-1955.

There is only one chopper missile who enter in this era & it's the french AS 11 (1954 3 km 200m/s lol), so Alouettes.

 

If you stop at this date No B0 105 ( no missile HOT 1960), no romanian alouette (malyutka 60's), no missile mi 4 with missiles (9 m 17 1964)

 

But also no veak(70's)& no M247 (60's) v. guepard 1975 amx 30 DC A 70's, zsu 23-4 1962.

 

There is 30 to 20 years technological difference in this event between planes & AAA. Perhaps that is why there is no planes at all in this rotation. & Why there is no plane for protect you from Choppers.

 

In this event choppers & SPAAG are OP . Freshly tested guepard as 5 km range & pgz 80 5.2km at least, the longest range missile is the falanga 4 km range.

 

So absolutely no need to add any AAA but rework at least the choppers spawn.

Or if we based on planes retire all radar & proxy SPAAG & ALL missiles choppers.

Or if you want air cover you need to push up planes era, add bulpups, as 20 & other basic AS missiles & CCIP.

Or you move your **** out of a tank take a plane & kill chopper if there is no SPAAG or fighter like average sim player must do.

 

[NewAgeSoldier 17]

On 14/06/2018 at 22:25, Smin1080p said:

Full table with line ups (click spoiler to check) / 20.09.2018

 

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1_1	2_1	3_1	4_1	5_1	6_1		8_2	9_2	11_2
1 rank	1-2 rank	2-3 rank	3 rank	3-4 rank	4 rank		5 rank "Cold War" 1946	5 rank "Cold War" 1950	5-6 rank "Alternative"
Team A	Team A	Team A	Team A	Team A	Team A		Team A	Team A	Team A
▂M3 Medium	▂M3 Medium	▂M4A2	▂M4A2	▂M4A2	AMX M4		ASU-85	ASU-85	AMX-13 (HOT)
▂T-III	▂MK-II «Matilda»	▄M10 GMC	▄M4A3E2	▂T-V	AMX-13		IS-3	IS-7	AMX-30 DCA
A13 Mk I	▂T-III	▄M4A1	A.C.IV	AMX M4	AMX-13 DCA 40		IS-4M	IT-1	AMX-30B2 BRENUS
A13 Mk II	▄M10 GMC	A.C.IV	Achilles	AMX-13	AMX-50		IS-6	Object 120	AMX-40
A13 Mk II 1939	▄M4A1	Achilles	Achilles (65 Rg.)	ARL-44	ASU-85		IS-7	Object 906	BMP-2
A13 Mk.I (3rd RTR)	3 inch Gun Carrier	Achilles (65 Rg.)	AMX-13 (FL11)	Avenger	Black Prince		Object 268	PT-76B	IT-1
AMC.34 YR	A13 Mk II 1939	AEC Mk.II	ARL-44	Black Prince	CA Lorraine		PT-76B	SU-122-54	Object 120
AMC.35 (ACG.1)	AC Mk II AA	AMX-13 (FL11)	ASU-57	CA Lorraine	Caernarvon		SU-100	T-10M	Object 906
AMR.35 ZT3	AEC Mk.II	Archer	Avenger	Calliope	Centurion Mk 1		SU-100P	T-54 (1949)	T-55AM-1
BT-5	AMC.35 (ACG.1)	ARL-44 (ACL-1)	Calliope	CCKW 353 AA	Centurion Mk 3		T-34-100	T-54 (1951)	T-62M-1
BT-7	AMX-13 (FL11)	ASU-57	CCKW 353 AA	Centurion Mk 1	Challenger		T-44	T-55A	T-64А (1971)
Crusader Mk II	B1 bis	BM-13N	Churchill Mk VII	Challenger	Char 25t		T-44-100	T-55AM-1	T-64B
Crusader Mk III	B1 ter	BTR-152A	Cobra King	Charioteer Mk VII	Charioteer Mk VII		T-44-122	T-62	T-80B
Daimler AC Mk.II	BM-13N	CCKW 353 AA	Comet I	Comet I	Crusader AA Mk I		T-54 (1947)	T-62M-1	ZSU-23-4
FCM.36	BM-8-24	Churchill Mk III	Cromwell Mk.V (RP-3)	Crusader AA Mk I	FV4202		T-54 (1949)	Type-62	ZSU-57-2
GAZ-AAA (4M)	Churchill Mk I	Churchill Mk VII	Crusader AA Mk I	Firefly «Scorpion»	IS-2 “Revenge”		Type 65	ZSU-23-4
GAZ-AAA (DShK)	Cromwell I	Cromwell I	Crusader AA Mk II	Firefly «Scorpion»	IS-2 (1944)		Type-62	ZSU-57-2	IL-28
GAZ-MM (72-K)	Cromwell V	Cromwell Mk.V (RP-3)	Firefly «Scorpion»	Iron Duke IV	ISU-122		ZSU-37		IL-28Sh
Grant I	Crusader Mk III	Cromwell V	Iron Duke IV	IS-2	ISU-122S			IL-10	La-15
H.35	GAZ-MM (72-K)	Crusader AA Mk II	IS-1	IS-2 “Revenge”	ISU-152		IL-10	IL-10 (1946)	La-174
H.39	Grant I	Excelsior	KV-122	IS-2 (1944)	KV-122		IL-10 (1946)	IL-28	La-200
H.39 «Cambronne»	KV-1 (L-11)	KV-1 (ZiS-5)	KV-1S	ISU-122	Lorraine 40t		La-11	La-15	M.D.450B Barougan
Independent	LVT(A)(4) ZIS-2	KV-1E	KV-2 (1939)	ISU-122S	M19		La-9	La-174	M.D.450B Ouragan
LVT(A)(1)	M10 GMC	KV-1S	KV-2 (1940)	ISU-152	M26		Pe-2-359	La-200	M.D.452 IIA
LVT(A)(4) ZIS-2	M13 MGMC	KV-2 (1939)	KV-2 (ZiS-6)	KV-122	M26 T99		Su-6 (AM-42)	MiG-15	M.D.452 IIC
M13 MGMC	M15A1 CGMC	KV-2 (1940)	KV-220	KV-220	M26E1		Su-6 (M-71F)	MiG-15bis	MiG-15
M2	M16 MGMC	Lorraine 155 Mle.50	KV-85	M15A1 CGMC	M36 GMC		Yak-3 (VK-107)	MiG-17	MiG-15bis
M2A2	M22	M10 GMC	Lorraine 155 Mle.50	M16 MGMC	M42		Yak-3P	MiG-9	MiG-17
M2A4	M3 Lee	M13 MGMC	M15A1 CGMC	M18 “Black Cat”	M4A3E2 (76) W		Yak-9P	MiG-9 /L	S.O.4050 Vautour IIA
M2A4 (1st Arm.Div.)	M4	M15A1 CGMC	M16 MGMC	M18 GMC	PT-76B		Yak-9U	Yak-15	S.O.4050 Vautour IIB
M3 GMC	M4A1	M16 MGMC	M18 “Black Cat”	M19	SU-100		Yak-9UT	Yak-15P	Yak-30
M3 Lee	M4A5	M18 “Black Cat”	M18 GMC	M26	SU-100P			Yak-17
M3 Stuart	M5A1 (5th arm.div.)	M18 GMC	M22	M26E1	SU-100Y			Yak-23	▂Mi-24D
M3A1 (USMC)	M8	M22	M24	M36 GMC	SU-122P			Yak-30	Mi-24A
M3A1 Stuart	M8A1	M24	M24 (TL)	M4A3 (76) W	Super Hellcat				Mi-24P
M5A1	Matilda Mk II	M24 (TL)	M4A1 (76) W	M4A3E2 (76) W	T-34-100			Mi-24A	Mi-24V
M5A1 (5th arm.div.)	Mk.VIA AA	M4	M4A1 (FL10)	M4A4 (SA50)	T-44			Mi-4AV	Mi-35M
M8	P.7.T AA	M4A1 (76) W	M4A2 (76) W	PT-76B	T-44-100				Mi-4AV
M8	RBT-5	M4A2	M4A3 (76) W	Sherman Firefly	T-44-122
Mk.VIA AA	S.35	M4A3 (105)	M4A3E2	SU-100	T26E1-1
P.7.T AA	SAu 40	M4A5	M4A3E2 (76) W	SU-100Y	T28
R.39	Sherman II	M8A1	M4A4 (SA50)	SU-122P	Tortoise
RBT-5	SMK	RBT-5	M6A1	SU-152	Type 65
S.35	SU-122	Sherman II	Sherman Firefly	SU-85M	ZSU-37
SAu 40	SU-76M	SMK	SU-100Y	Super Hellcat
SU-5-1	SU-76M (5th Gv.Kav.Corps)	SU-122	SU-152	T-34-100	▂P-47D-27
SU-57	T-126	SU-76M (5th Gv.Kav.Corps)	SU-85	T-34-85	▂P-63A-10
T-126	T-28E	SU-85	SU-85M	T-34-85E	▂P-63A-5
T-26	T-34 (1940)	T-126	T-34-57 (1943)	T-44	▂Spitfire Mk IXc
T-26 (1st Gv.T.Br.)	T-34 (1941)	T-34 (1942)	T-34-85	T-44-122	▃Spitfire LF Mk IXc
T-26-4	T-34 (1st Gv.T.Br.)	T-34-57	T-34-85 (D-5T)	T25	▄AD-4
T-26E	T-34 (Prototype)	T-34-57 (1943)	T-34-85E	Type 65	▄P-63C-5
T-28	T-34E	T-34E	T20	ZiS-43	A-26B-10
T-28E	T-50	T-34E STZ	Type 65	ZSU-37	AD-2
T-35	T18E2	T-50	YaG-10 (29-K)	ZUT-37	AD-4
T-60	Valentine Mk IX	T14	ZiS-12 (94-KM)		Bong's P-38J-15
T-70	Valentine Mk XI	YaG-10 (29-K)	ZiS-43	▂P-47D-27	Dolgushin's La-7
T-80	ZUT-37	ZiS-12 (94-KM)	ZSU-37	▂P-63A-10	F4U-4
T17E2		ZUT-37	ZUT-37	▂P-63A-5	F4U-4B
T18E2	▂Hurricane Mk IIB			▂Spitfire Mk IXc	F4U-7
Tetrarch Mk I	▂P-39K-1	▂P-39K-1	▂P-39K-1	▃Spitfire LF Mk IXc	Golovachev's Yak-9M
Valentine Mk I	▂P-40E-1	▂P-40E-1	▂P-47D-27	▄F6F-5	Hornet Mk.III
ZiS-30	▂Pokryshkin's P-39N-0	▂Pokryshkin's P-39N-0	▂P-63A-10	▄F6F-5N	I-185 (M-71)
	▄A-35B	▄D.520	▂P-63A-5	▄Mustang Mk IA	I-185 (M-82)
▂Hurricane Mk IIB	▄D.520	▄D.521	▂Pokryshkin's P-39N-0	▄P-63C-5	IL-10
▄A-35B	▄D.521	▄F6F-5	▂Spitfire Mk IXc	A-26B-10	IL-2 (1941)
▄Wirraway	A-36	▄F6F-5N	▃Spitfire LF Mk IXc	Bong's P-38J-15	IL-2 (1942)
Hurricane Mk IIB/Trop	D.520	▄Hellcat Mk II	▄Avenger Mk II	Challe's ▄Yak-9T	IL-2-37
I-153P	Golovachev's Yak-9M	▄SB2C-5	▄F6F-5	Dolgushin's La-7	IL-2M “Avenger”
I-16 type 18	Hurricane Mk IIB/Trop	A-36	▄F6F-5N	F4U-4	IL-2M (1943)
I-16 type 24	Hurricane Mk IV	Challe's ▄Yak-9T	▄Hellcat Mk II	F4U-4B	IL-2M type 3
I-16 type 28	I-16 type 27	D.520	▄Mustang Mk IA	F4U-7	La-5FN
IL-2 (1941)	I-16 type 28	F6F-5	▄P-63C-5	Firebrand TF Mk IV	La-7
LaGG-3-11	IL-2 (1941)	F6F-5N	A-26B-10	Golovachev's Yak-9M	La-7B-20
LaGG-3-23	IL-2 (1942)	Golovachev's Yak-9M	Challe's ▄Yak-9T	I-185 (M-71)	Mosquito FB Mk XVIII
M.S.406C1	IL-2-37	I-16 type 27	F6F-5	I-185 (M-82)	NC.900
M.S.410	La-5F	I-16 type 28	F6F-5N	IL-10	P-38J-15
P-36A	LaGG-3-23	IL-2 (1941)	Firebrand TF Mk IV	IL-2 (1941)	P-38K
P-36C	LaGG-3-34	IL-2 (1942)	Firefly FR Mk V	IL-2 (1942)	P-38L-5-LO
P-36G	M.S.410	IL-2-37	Golovachev's Yak-9M	IL-2-37	P-47D-25
Potez 630	P-39N-0	IL-2M “Avenger”	IL-2 (1941)	IL-2M “Avenger”	P-47D-28
Potez 631	P-40E-1	IL-2M (1943)	IL-2 (1942)	IL-2M (1943)	P-47M-1-RE
Rasmussen's P-36A	P-40F-10	IL-2M type 3	IL-2-37	IL-2M type 3	P-47N-15
SB2U-2	Pe-2-31	La-5F	IL-2M “Avenger”	La-5FN	P-51D-10
SB2U-3	Potez 631	LaGG-3-34	IL-2M (1943)	La-7	P-51D-20-NA
SBD-3	Potez 633	LaGG-3-66	IL-2M type 3	Mosquito FB Mk VI	P-51D-5
Su-2 M-82	SB2U-2	M.B.157	La-5FN	Mosquito FB Mk XVIII	P-63A-10
Su-2 MV-5	SB2U-3	P-38E	LaGG-3-34	NC.900	P-63A-5
Su-2 TSS-1	Spitfire Mk IIb	P-38G-1	M.B.157	P-38J-15	P-63C-5
Tandem MAI	Typhoon Mk Ia	P-39N-0	Mosquito FB Mk VI	P-38K	PBJ-1H
TB-3M-17-32	V-156-B1	P-40E-1	Mosquito FB Mk XVIII	P-38L-5-LO	Pe-2-205
V-156-B1	V-156-F	P-40F-10	P-38E	P-47D-25	Pe-2-359
V-156-F	Yak-1B	P-51	P-38G-1	P-47D-28	Pe-3bis
Yak-1	Yak-2 KABB	Pe-2-31	P-39N-0	P-47M-1-RE	Plagis' Spitfire LF Mk IXc
Yak-2 KABB	Yak-4	Pe-2-83	P-47D-25	P-47N-15	Spitfire F Mk XIVc
Yak-4		Pe-3	P-47D-28	P-51	Spitfire F Mk XIVe
Zhukovsky's I-153-M62		Pe-3/E	P-51	P-51D-10	Spitfire F Mk XVIIIe
		Spitfire F Mk IX	P-51D-10	P-51D-20-NA	Spitfire FR Mk XIVe
		Typhoon Mk Ia	P-51D-20-NA	P-51D-5	Spitfire LF Mk IX
		Typhoon Mk Ib	P-51D-5	P-61A-1	Su-6 (AM-42)
		Typhoon Mk Ib/L	P-63A-10	P-61C-1	Su-6 (M-71F)
		XP-38G	P-63A-5	P-63A-10	Tempest Mk V
		Yak-1B	P-63C-5	P-63A-5	Tempest Mk V (Vickers P)
		Yak-9B	PBJ-1H	P-63C-5	VB.10-02
		Yak-9T	Pe-2-110	PBJ-1H	VB.10C-1
			Pe-2-83	Pe-2-110	XA-38
			Pe-3	Pe-2-205	Yak-3
			Pe-3/E	Pe-3bis	Yak-3T
			Pe-3bis	Plagis' Spitfire LF Mk IXc	Yak-9K
			Plagis' Spitfire LF Mk IXc	Spitfire F Mk XIVc	Yak-9T
			Spitfire F Mk IX	Spitfire F Mk XIVe
			Spitfire FR Mk XIVe	Spitfire F Mk XVIIIe
			Spitfire LF Mk IX	Spitfire FR Mk XIVe
			TBF-1C	Spitfire LF Mk IX
			Tempest Mk V (Vickers P)	Su-6 (M-71F)
			Typhoon Mk Ib	Tempest Mk V (Vickers P)
			Typhoon Mk Ib/L	Typhoon Mk Ib
			Whirlwind Mk I	Typhoon Mk Ib/L
			Whirlwind P.9	Whirlwind Mk I
			XA-38	Whirlwind P.9
			XP-38G	XA-38
			Yak-3	Yak-3
			Yak-3T	Yak-3T
			Yak-9B	Yak-9K
			Yak-9T	Yak-9T
Tanks - 63	Tanks - 58	Tanks - 59	Tanks - 59	Tanks - 55	Tanks - 44		Tanks - 17	Tanks - 17	Tanks - 15
Planes - 33	Planes - 36	Planes - 45	Planes - 65	Planes - 69	Planes - 65		Planes - 12	Planes - 16	Planes - 15
								Helicopters - 2	Helicopters - 6
Team B	Team B	Team B	Team B	Team B	Team B		Team B	Team B	Team B
Chi-Ha	Chi-Ha Kai	▀KV-IB	▀KV-IB	▅Heavy Tank No.6	Bfw. Jagdpanther		▅M41A1	AMX-13 (SS.11)	Begleitpanzer 57
Chi-Ha Kai	Chi-Ha Short Gun	▀KV-IB 756(r)	▀KV-IB 756(r)	Bfw. Jagdpanther	Coelian		▅M42	AMX-13-90	Centurion Mk.5 AVRE
Chi-Ha Short Gun	Chi-He	▀KV-II 754(r)	▀KV-II 754(r)	Brummbär	Ferdinand		AMX-13 DCA 40	AMX-30	Challenger Mk.2
Flakpanzer I	Chi-Nu	▀M4 748 (a)	▀Pz.Kpfw. Churchill	Chi-Ri II	Ho-Ri Production		AMX-13-90	AMX-30 (1972)	Chieftain Marksman
Ha-Go	Gepard	▀Pz.Kpfw. Churchill	▅Heavy Tank No.6	Ersatz M10	Ho-Ri Prototype		AMX-50 Foch	AMX-30 DCA	Chieftain Mk 10
Ha-Go Commander	Ho-I	▀T-34-747(r)	▅M24	Ferdinand	Jagdpanther		AMX-50 Surbaissé	AMX-30B2 BRENUS	Chieftain Mk 5
Ho-Ro	Ho-Ni I	▅M24	▅M4A3 (76) W	Ho-Ri Prototype	Jagdtiger		Caernarvon	AMX-50 Foch	Falcon
I-Go Ko	Ho-Ni III	8,8 cm Flak 37 Sfl.	8,8 cm Flak 37 Sfl.	Jagdpanther	Kugelblitz		Centurion Mk 10	AMX-50 Surbaissé	FlakPz I Gepard
Ka-Mi	Marder III	Brummbär	Brummbär	Nashorn	Panther F		Centurion Mk 3	Begleitpanzer 57	JPz 4-5
Ke-Ni	Marder III H	Chi-Nu	Chi-Nu II	Ostwind	Panther G		Char 25t	Centurion Mk.10	KPz-70
Marder III	P40 "Leoncello"	Chi-Nu II	Chi-Ri II	Panther A	Panther II		Coelian	Centurion Mk.5 AVRE	Leopard 2A4
Nb.Fz.	Panzerjäger I	Chi-To	Chi-To	Panther D	ST-A1		Conqueror	Chieftain Marksman	Leopard 2K
Panzerjäger I	Pz.II H	Chi-To Late	Chi-To Late	Panther F	ST-A2		Conway	Chieftain Mk.3	Leopard A1A1
Pz.35(t)	Pz.III J1	Dicker Max	Dicker Max	Panther G	Sturer Emil		Crusader AA Mk I	Chieftain Mk.5	Leopard A1A1 (L/44)
Pz.38(t) A	Pz.III L	Ho-Ni III	Ersatz M10	Panzer IV/70(A)	Tiger II (10.5 cm Kw.K)		E-100	Coelian	M1 Abrams
Pz.38(t) F	Pz.III M	Jagdpanzer 38(t)	Jagdpanzer 38(t)	Panzer IV/70(V)	Tiger II (H)		FV4005	Conqueror	M1 IP
Pz.II C	Pz.III N	Jagdpanzer IV	Jagdpanzer IV	Pz.Bfw.VI (P)	Tiger II (H) Sla.16		FV4202	Conway	M163
Pz.II F	Pz.IV F1	Marder III	Na-To	So-Ki	Tiger II (P)		Ho-Ri Production	Falcon	M247
Pz.II H	Pz.IV F2	Marder III H	Nashorn	ST-A1	Type 60 SPRG (C)		Jagdtiger	FlakPz I Gepard	M551
Pz.IIС (DAK)	Sd.Kfz. 6/2	Na-To	Ostwind	Sturer Emil	Type 61		M19	FV4005	M60A1 RISE (P)
Pz.III B	Sd.Kfz.221 (s.Pz.B.41)	P40 "Leoncello"	Panther D	Tiger E	Waffenträger		M26 "Ariete"	JPz 4-5	M60A2
Pz.III E	Sd.Kfz.234/2	Panzerwerfer 42	Panzer IV/70(A)	Tiger H1			M41A1	Leopard A1A1	MBT-70
Pz.III F	Sd.Kfz.234/3	Pz.Bfw.IV	Panzer IV/70(V)	Tiger II (P)	Bf 109 G-10		M42	Leopard A1A1 (L/44)	RakJPz 2
Pz.III J	Sd.Kfz.234/4	Pz.II H	Pz.Bfw.IV	Type 60 SPRG (C)	Bf 109 G-14		M46	Leopard I	RakJPz 2 (HOT)
Pz.IV C	StuG III F	Pz.III L	Pz.IV H	VK 45.01 (P)	Bf 109 G-6		M46 “Tiger”	M103	Striker
Pz.IV E	StuH 42 G	Pz.III M	Pz.IV J	Waffenträger	Bf 109 K-4		M47	M163	Swingfire
Pz.IV F1	Sturmpanzer II	Pz.III N	Sd.Kfz.234/4	Wirbelwind	Bf 109 Z		M56	M42	TAM
Ro-Go	Ta-Se	Pz.IV F2	So-Ki		Do 335 A-1		Maus	M47	Type 60 ATM
Sd.Kfz. 140/1		Pz.IV G	StuG III G	▅Fw 190 A-5	Do 335 B-2		mKPz M47	M48A1	Type 74
Sd.Kfz.221 (s.Pz.B.41)	A6M3	Pz.IV H	Tiger E	A6M5	Fw 190 A-5		Panther II	M48A2 G A2	Type 87
Sd.Kfz.234/2	A6M3 mod. 22	Pz.IV J	Tiger H1	A6M5 Ko	Fw 190 A-5		T26E1-1	M50 Ontos	Type 90
Sd.Kfz.234/3	A6M3 mod. 22Ko	Sd.Kfz. 6/2	VK 45.01 (P)	A6M5 otsu	Fw 190 A-8		T28	M551	Warrior
StuG III A	Bf 110 C-7	Sd.Kfz.234/4	Wirbelwind	Bf 109 G-10	Fw 190 F-8		T29	M56	XM-1 (GM)
Sturmpanzer II	Bf.109F-1	So-Ki		Bf 109 G-14	He 219 A-7		T32	M60	XM-803
Ta-Se	Bf.109F-2	StuG III G	▅Fw 190 A-5	Bf 109 G-6	Hs 129B-2		T34	M60A1 (AOS)
Type 94	Bf.109F-4	StuH 42 G	A6M5	Bf 109 K-4	Hs 129B-2 (Romania)		T54E1	M60A1 RISE (P)	Ar 234 B-2
	Bf.109F-4/trop	Ta-Se	A6M5 Ko	Bf 109 Z	Hs.129B-3		T92	M60A2	Ar 234 C-3
▀C.202	Breda 88 (P.XI)	Wirbelwind	A6M5 otsu	Bf 110 G-2	J2M3		T95	mKPz M47	Attacker FB 1
▅Bf 109 E-7	C.202		A7M1 (NK9H)	D4Y2	J2M4 Kai		Tiger II (10.5 cm Kw.K)	RakJPz 2	CL-13A Mk 5
A6M2	C.202EC	A6M3	A7M2	D4Y3 Ko	J2M5		Tortoise	RakJPz 2 (HOT)	F-80A-5
A6M2 mod. 11	D4Y1	A6M3 mod. 22	Bf 109 G-10	Do 335 A-1	J2M5		Type 61	Ru 251	F-80C-10
A7He1	IAR-81C	A6M3 mod. 22Ko	Bf 109 G-14	Do 335 B-2	Ju 87 G-2			STB-1	F-84B-26
Bf 109 B-1/L	Ju.87D-3	Bf 109 G-2	Bf 109 G-2	Fw 190 A-5	Ju 87D-5		▄AD-4	Strv 81 (Rb.52)	F-84G-21-RE
Bf 109 E-1	Ju.87D-5	Bf 109 G-2/trop	Bf 109 G-2/trop	Fw 190 A-5	Ju 87G-1		▄Bf 109 G-14/AS	Swingfire	F-86A-5
Bf 109 E-3	Ju.87G-1	Bf 109 G-6	Bf 109 G-6	Fw 190 A-8	Ki-109		▄F8F-1B	T114	F-86F-2
Bf 109 E-4	Ju.87G-2	Bf 110 C-7	Bf 110 F-2	Fw 190 F-8	Ki-83		AD-2	T54E1	F-86F-25
Bf 109 E-7/U2	Ki-100	Bf 110 F-2	Bf 110 G-2	He 219 A-7	Ki-84 hei		AD-4	T92	F-86F-30 ▅
Fw 189 A-1	Ki-100-II	Breda 88 (P.XI)	D4Y2	Hs 129B-2	Ki-84 ko		Bf 109 K-4	T95E1	F-86F-40 ▅
He 112 A-0	Ki-21-I hei	C.202	D4Y3 Ko	Hs 129B-2 (Romania)	Ki-84 otsu		Bf 109 Z	Type 60 ATM	F2H-2
He 112 B-0	Ki-43-II	C.202EC	Fw 190 A-5	Hs.129B-3	Ki-87		F-82E	Type 74	F3D-1
He 112 B-1/U2	Ki-44-II otsu	C.205 serie 1	Fw 190 A-5	Ju 87 G-2	Ki-94-II		F4U-7	Type 87	F9F-2
He 112 B-2/U2	Ki-45 hei	C.205 serie 3	Hs 129B-2	Ju 87D-5	Me 410 B-1		F7F-1	Vickers MBT	F9F-5
He 112 V-5	Ki-45 ko	D4Y1	Hs 129B-2 (Romania)	Ju 87G-1	Me 410 B-1/U2		F7F-3	Magach 3	F9F-8
Ju 87 B-2	Ki-45 otsu	D4Y2	Hs.129B-3	Ki-102 otsu	Me 410 B-2/U4		F8F-1		FJ-4B
Ki-100	Ki-45 tei	D4Y3 Ko	Ju 87 G-2	Ki-109	Me 410 B-6/R3		F8F-1B	▄AD-4	FJ-4B VMF 232
Ki-21-I hei	Ki-61-I ko	Hs 129B-2	Ju 87D-5	Ki-61-I hei	N1K2-J		Fw 190 D-12	▄F-84G-26-RE	Hunter F 1
Ki-21-Ia	Ki-61-I otsu	Hs 129B-2 (Romania)	Ju 87G-1	Ki-61-II	N1K2-Ja		Fw 190 D-13	AD-4	Meteor F Mk 3
Ki-44-II otsu	Me.410A-1	Hs.129B-3	Ki-102 otsu	Ki-83	P1Y1 mod. 11 "Ginga"		Fw 190 D-9	Ar 234 B-2	Meteor F Mk 4 G.41F
Ki-45 ko	So-Ki	IAR-81C	Ki-109	Ki-84 hei	Ta 154 A-1		Fw 190 F-8	Ar 234 C-3	Meteor F Mk 4 G.41G
Ki-45 otsu		Ju 87 D-3	Ki-61-I hei	Ki-84 ko			G.55S	Attacker FB 1	Meteor F Mk 8 G.41K
Ki-61-I ko		Ju 87 G-2	Ki-61-I tei	Ki-84 otsu			G.56	CL-13A Mk 5	R2Y2 Kai V1
Ki-61-I otsu		Ju 87D-5	Ki-61-II	Ki-96			He 219 A-7	F-80A-5	R2Y2 Kai V2
		Ju 87G-1	Ki-96	Me 410 B-1			Hornet Mk.III	F-80C-10	R2Y2 Kai V3
		Ki-100	Me 410 B-1	Me 410 B-1/U2			Hs.129B-3	F-84B-26	Sea Meteor F Mk 3
		Ki-100-II	Me 410 B-1/U2	Me 410 B-2/U4			J2M4 Kai	F-84G-21-RE	Sea Venom FAW 20
		Ki-109	Me 410 B-2/U4	Me 410 B-6/R3			J2M5	F-86A-5	Vampire FB 5
		Ki-21-I hei	P1Y1 mod. 11 "Ginga"	P1Y1 mod. 11 "Ginga"			J2M5	F-86F-2	Venom FB.4
		Ki-44-II otsu	Ta 154 A-1	Ta 154 A-1			Ki-109	F-86F-25
		Ki-45 hei					Ki-83	F-86F-30 ▅	AH-1F
		Ki-45 ko					Ki-84 hei	F-86F-40 ▅	AH-1G
		Ki-45 otsu					Ki-84 otsu	F3D-1	AH-1Z
		Ki-45 tei					Ki-87	F9F-2	UH-1B
		Ki-61-I ko					Ki-94-II	F9F-5	UH-1C
		Ki-61-I otsu					Me 410 B-1	F9F-8	UH-1C XM-30
		Me 410 A-1					Me 410 B-1/U2	FJ-4B
							Me 410 B-2/U4	FJ-4B VMF 232
							Me 410 B-6/R3	He 162 A-2
							N1K2-J	Ho 229 V3
							N1K2-Ja	Hunter F 1
							NC.900	Ki-200
							P-51D-30	Kikka
							P.108A serie 2	M.D.450B Barougan
							P1Y1 mod. 11 "Ginga"	M.D.450B Ouragan
							S.O.8000 Narval	M.D.452 IIC
							Sea Fury FB 11	Me 163 B
							Seafire FR 47	Me 163 B-0
							Spitfire F Mk 22	Me 262 A-1/U4
							Spitfire F Mk 24	Me 262 A-1a
							Spitfire F Mk XIVc	Me 262 A-2a
							Spitfire F Mk XIVe	Me 262 C-1a
							Spitfire F Mk XVIIIe	Me 262 C-2b
							Spitfire FR Mk XIVe	Meteor F Mk 3
							Ta 152 C-3	Meteor F Mk 4 G.41F
							Ta 152 H-1	Meteor F Mk 4 G.41G
							Tempest Mk II	Meteor F Mk 8 G.41K
							Wyvern S4	R2Y2 Kai V1
								R2Y2 Kai V2
								R2Y2 Kai V3
								S.O.8000 Narval
								Sea Meteor F Mk 3
								Sea Venom FAW 20
								Vampire FB 5
								Venom FB.4
								Wyvern S4
								UH-1B
								UH-1C
								UH-1C XM-30
Tanks - 36	Tanks - 28	Tanks - 38	Tanks - 33	Tanks - 27	Tanks - 21		Tanks - 41	Tanks - 53	Tanks - 34
Planes - 25	Planes - 30	Planes - 36	Planes - 34	Planes - 40	Planes - 37		Planes - 54	Planes - 50	Planes - 32
								Helicopters - 3	Helicopters - 6

 

 

 

Schedule:

Sunday (Stage 1)

Day 1: 1_1

Day 2: 3_1

Day 3: 2_1

Day 4: 5_1

Day 5: 4_1

Day 6: 6_1

Day 7: Cycle

Sunday (Stage 2)

Day 1: 8_2

Day 2: 9_2

Day 3: 10_2

Day 4: 11_2

Day 5: 8_2

Day 6: 9_2

Day 7: Cycle

Please leave your feedback below!

I would love for it to be an entire list of each BR, let's say from 1.0-2.0 and so instead of just 2 lobbies.... Ground sim is not enjoyable how it is

[_TheCrimsonKing_ 503]

25 minutes ago, TOMSONE said:

 Yes Helicopters technologies & spawn. Choppers with the same technological era as planes at this rotation will neeeever make any problems.

Best CAS plane in 9_2 is the A32 1955. Planes era in this event is 1944 (meteor)-1955.

There is only one chopper missile who enter in this era & it's the french AS 11 (1954 3 km 200m/s lol), so Alouettes.

 

If you stop at this date No B0 105 ( no missile HOT 1960), no romanian alouette (malyutka 60's), no missile mi 4 with missiles (9 m 17 1964)

 

But also no veak(70's)& no M247 (60's) v. guepard 1975 amx 30 DC A 70's, zsu 23-4 1962.

 

There is 30 to 20 years technological difference in this event between planes & AAA. Perhaps that is why there is no planes at all in this rotation. & Why there is no plane for protect you from Choppers.

 

In this event choppers & SPAAG are OP . Freshly tested guepard as 5 km range & pgz 80 5.2km at least, the longest range missile is the falanga 4 km range.

 

So absolutely no need to add any AAA but rework at least the choppers spawn.

Or if we based on planes retire all radar & proxy SPAAG & ALL missiles choppers.

Or if you want air cover you need to push up planes era, add bulpups, as 20 & other basic AS missiles & CCIP.

Or you move your **** out of a tank take a plane & kill chopper if there is no SPAAG or fighter like average sim player must do.

 

Psst... here's something you didn't know: date of introduction doesn't matter at all in this game. It never has and it never will. So you typed all that for nothing.

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51 minutes ago, TOMSONE said:

Explanation for tankers who don't know what is air SB:

-Planes in SB is far more harder than RB.

-First Fighter/ attacker/ bomber are not the same thing.

-Nope their is no CAS in AIR SB . CAS main goal is pound resistance points, to make progress your ground units.

-Air SB is just fighter clash or Zomber land.

-In air Sb if you focus on ground unit, you can't check the air in same time you are dead.

-What is the interest to pound bots without any impact on the game with all this massive risk & repair cost. There is no place for attackers in AIR SB .

 

So this is why there is the heart of the game, the main argument of warthunder, COMBINED battles. If you want to play tank game play WOT.

Explanation for air players who don't know what Ground SB is:

- gamemode which is an only mode that tankers can play 

- ground units should have a chance to stand against air units

 

Cope really