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Caproni Ca.335 Maestrale/SABCA S.47: A Joint Italian-Belgian Venture (Yes, Really)

Caproni Ca.335/SABCA S.47  

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The Caproni Ca.335/SABCA S.47 is an interesting story of collaboration between two most unlikely partners.  In 1937, the Belgian air force sought a new, modern aircraft to replace their aging Fairey Fox biplanes, which they had been using as both fighters and reconnaissance aircraft.  The Italian aircraft company Caproni and the Belgian company SABRA entered into an agreement in which SABRA would produce some Caproni aircraft under license and sell them in additional markets in exchange for Caproni designing an aircraft to fill the contract for the Belgian air force.  Basing their design on the earlier A.P.1 ground attack aircraft, Caproni engineers got to work designing the new plane.  The aircraft was of mixed construction, with a steel tube framework and metal-skinned fuselage, but wood and fabric wings.  The two cockpits were separated by a large section of aircraft, with the rear gunner manning a 7.62mm machine gun (a licensed M1919 Browning).  It came with retractable landing gear that folded back into the wing and a retractable tailwheel.  Fixed forward armament consisted of a 20mm cannon firing through the propeller hub, and two more 7.62mm machine guns in the wings, and the aircraft could fit four 50kg bombs.  In a unique twist, the observer/gunner had a full set of controls and could serve as a copilot; no reports on how successful this was (since he was facing backwards and had no forward visibility, I'd guess poorly).

 

The aircraft was tested in Italy in February 1939 and found to be satisfactory.  The prototype was shipped to Belgium, where it impressed Belgian air force officials.  An order for 24 aircraft was placed, but the SABCA factory was busy meeting other requirements and did not deliver the additional aircraft. 

 

On March 14th, 1940, the prototype was being demonstrated to French Air Force officials when it was damaged in a landing accident.  Before it could be repaired, Belgium was conquered by Germany, with SABCA production halting and the prototype falling into German hands.  Caproni attempted to secure the return of the prototype, but were unsuccessful; it was held in occupied France for a time before being scrapped in 1943.

 

I think that the Ca.335/S.47 would be an interesting low-tier addition to War Thunder, with a very unique history.  I'm posting this topic here as I'm not sure which tree this aircraft should be placed in. 

 

Specifications: 

Engines:  One Hispano-Suiza 12Ycrs V-12 inline engine, 860 hp

Length: 10.6m

Wingspan:  13.2m

Height:  3.2m

Empty Weight:  2,250 kg (4,960 lb)

Loaded Weight:  3,240 kg (7,143 lb)

Maximum Speed:  501 kmh (311 mph)

Crew:  2 (Pilot, Observer/Gunner)

Armament (proposed):  One Hispano-Suiza HS.404 20mm cannon firing through the propeller hub, two 7.62mm FN Browning (M1919) machine guns mounted in the wings, one 7.62mm FN Browning (M1919) machine gun in the rear cockpit, 200 kg of bombs (four 50kg bombs, two in an internal bay and two under the wings)

Number Built:  1

 

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Sources: 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caproni_Ca.335

http://fdra-aereo.blogspot.com/2014/01/cazabombardero-caproni-ca335.html#comment-form

http://italianaircraftwwii.blogspot.com/2015/03/caproni-bergamaschi-ca335-sabca-s-47.html

http://all-aero.com/index.php/54-planes-p-q-e-r-s/8623-sabca-s47

https://www.onwar.com/weapons/aircraft/planes/Caproni-Ca-335.html

http://www.alieuomini.it/catalogo/dettaglio_catalogo/caproni_ca,21.html

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Wow this is a really cool aircraft and love its history. Then I saw that eight letter word "scrapped" and my heart cracked a little like every other time I see it referring to anything historical. You've got my full support!

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interesting. i think it could be italian, maybe as a premium since it WAS an italian design for a foreign nation to then build themselves. otherwise i can see this in an axis minors tree, like a bulgarian MS.405.

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On 01/06/2018 at 04:15, Admiral_Aruon said:

interesting. i think it could be italian, maybe as a premium since it WAS an italian design for a foreign nation to then build themselves. otherwise i can see this in an axis minors tree, like a bulgarian MS.405.

 

I'm pretty sure Gaijin's said that all minor Axis stuff will be in the Italian trees from now on.  That's why the IAR-81C is going to be an Italian premium.

 

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