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  1. 1. Would You Like To See a Tree For The British Commonwealth - Australia, New Zealand, Canada, India and Pakistan?

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This is just an Idea I've had to create a tech tree for the commonwealth nations, specifically Australia, New Zealand, Canada, India, Pakistan and South Africa. It stretches from the interwar period to the modern day, and contains 27 Australian Tanks, 25 Australian Aircraft, 8 New Zealand Tanks, 10 New Zealand Aircraft, 32 Canadian Tanks, 19 Canadian Aircraft, 12 Indian Tanks, 9 Indian Aircraft, 14 South African Tanks, 13 South African Aircraft, 10 Pakistani Tanks and 4 Pakistani Aircraft. 

 

Ground Tree: 5af17f73b45d4_Commonwealthgroundtree.thu

 

Air Tree: 5af17f9acd3e1_ScreenShot2018-05-08at8_44

 

As you can see, Australia and Canada both get their own lines in both the air and ground trees. South Africa, Pakistan, India and New Zealand mostly relied on other nations for combat vehicles and aircraft, so they usually get lumped in with each other. 

 

Australia's ground and air trees are mostly filled with Indigenous designs, and the few that aren't are mostly indigenous modifications such as the CAC CA-18 Mustang and CAC CA-27 Sabre, which were license built versions of the respective aircraft. The Sabre in particular had a new Rolls-Royce Avon engine and a different set of armaments. In fact, the only non-australian vehicles in the "Australian" branches are the Gloster Meteor, M3 Grant, Centurion mk. 5, Centurion mk. 5/1 (both of which are technically Australian modifications), Leopard 1A3 Assassin and the M1A1 Abrams. Canada's Air branch is mostly filled with lend-lease or license built aircraft, with a few originals towards the end. The ground branch starts out strong with original designs, but eventually creeps into foreign designs, or Canadian-modified designs in case of the Leo C1. 

 

South Africa's Air branch is mostly foreign aircraft, but at least has a few original designs at the beginning. Fortunately, South Africa's tanks are almost entirely original designs or modifications. The only copy here is the Comet B. 

 

India has almost no WWII designs at all and mostly focuses on the Cold War era. That being said, they vary from using British designs, to Soviet ones, and then deciding to do it themselves at the end. India's air forces, as little as they are, are mostly original though.

 

New Zealand's tanks are almost entirely foreign. But, at least there's a few original designs and modifications scattered about. Also the only original Kiwi aircraft is the BAC Strikemaster, which they didn't even build.. 

 

Finally, Pakistan. Pakistan is the same as India, using American designs with dutch parts (for some reason) then going to the Chinese, and then doing it themselves. Their air branch wasn't enough to make a full branch, and it's entirely made of Chinese Aircraft, but at least it's there. 

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Well I can support this, however, Canada it's self is capable of supporting it's self on all three fronts of units, oddly enough. I've got a list of most vehicles for ground forces here, that should be fairly complete, I don't mean to be a nuisance by mentioning this list, it's just that it should be helpful for anybody who may want to know what there was. 

 

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May 8 2018 (By Charaqat)

 

Canadian made or modified vehicles, also vehicles used by Canada from other countries (Aprox 159 total, within reason.)

 

Canadian ground vehicles (Approx 85 total)  8 possible paper vehicles, 4 unknown, Optional inclusion)

Medium

M3 Lee/Grant 3x 15mm Besa SPAA conversion, Aka M3 CS AA (Retains 75mm) (Paperhttp://i.imgur.com/m9McmeA.jpg

Ram Mk I

Ram Mk II Mk.3 6 Pounder (Early Production)

Ram Mk II Mk.5 6 Pounder (Early Production)

Ram Mk II Mk.3 6 Pounder (Mid Production)

Ram Mk II Mk.5 6 Pounder (Mid Production)

Ram Mk II Mk.5 6 Pounder (Late Production)

Ram Mk II QF75 (Mid Production)

Ram Mk II  QF75 (Late Production)

Ram Mk II CS (29 Ram vehicles fitted with the 95mm CS Howitzer)
AC Mk 1 Canadian Lend-leased (Bar-code 440594 in the Australian Archives) It was used to install and test torsion bar suspension)

Grizzly Mk I

Grizzly Mk Ic

M4A2/Sherman Firefly IIIc (Early 60 Degree UFP, Three piece transmission)

Valentine Mk 6

Valentine Mk 6 (Late Production)

Valentine Mk 7

Valentine Mk 7A

Turreted SPG

Ram 32 Pounder SPG

Ram M10 

M109A4B+
SPG

Universal Carrier 2 Pounder SPG
Project No. 23 - Self-propelled mounting for 6 pounder 7 cwt   (Status N/A) http://collectionscanada.gc.ca/pam_archives/index.php?fuseaction=genitem.displayItem&rec_nbr=945471&lang=eng&rec_nbr_list=945471 

Airborne Self Propelled 6 Pdr Gun (Paper)http://i.imgur.com/wY5CRxz.png

25 pdr on armoured 6x6 Mack 10 ton chassis Portee (Only 2 photos of this one, no information is known about it outside of what you can see from those two)

Sexton I 25 Pounder SPG
Sexton I 17 Pounder SPG Prototype

Sexton II 25 Pounder SPG (Early, Three piece transmission)

Sexton II 25 Pounder SPG (Late, Single piece transmission)
Grizzly 32 Pdr Assault Tank (Paperhttps://i.imgur.com/21lfJrX.png

Anubis 5.5 Inch SPG  (Paperhttp://collectionscanada.gc.ca/pam_archives/index.php?fuseaction=genitem.displayItem&rec_nbr=945525&lang=eng&rec_nbr_list=945525
XA-100 105mm SP Howitzer

Bobcat 105mm SPH

M113 106mm RR

Wheeled

Lynx SP 2 Pdr

Lynx SP 2 Pdr (With gun shield)
Fox 6pdr SP

Wolf Mk 1

Wolf Mk 2 (Ram Mk 2 turret with 57mm) (Paper)
Project No. 39 - Armoured car with 20 millimetre machine gun. (Status N/A)http://collectionscanada.gc.ca/pam_archives/index.php?fuseaction=genitem.displayItem&rec_nbr=945486&lang=eng&rec_nbr_list=945486

Hamilton Bridge/Ford "Wheeled Tank"

Universal Scout Car

Otter LRC w/ AT gun

Otter LRC w/ .50cal

Lynx w/ AT gun

Lynx w/ .50cal

Fox AC w/ .50cal 

M38A1 CDN3 106mm RR Jeep

Cougar AVGP

Coyote Reconnaissance Vehicle

LAV III Kodiak

Heavy

Churchill II Oke (Flamethrower equipment is cosmetic unless otherwise made to work)

Churchill IV AVRE

Churchill VII Croc (Flamethrower equipment is cosmetic unless otherwise made to work)

Light
Project No, 49 - Light reconnaissance tank (Status N/A) http://collectionscanada.gc.ca/pam_archives/index.php?fuseaction=genitem.displayItem&rec_nbr=945495&lang=eng&rec_nbr_list=945495

Project 52, Neno Light tank  (Status N/A) http://collectionscanada.gc.ca/pam_archives/index.php?fuseaction=genitem.displayItem&rec_nbr=945498&lang=eng&rec_nbr_list=945498

SPAA

6x6 Chassis Double 20mm SPAA (Paper)  http://collectionscanada.gc.ca/pam_archives/index.php?fuseaction=genitem.displayItem&rec_nbr=945489&lang=eng&rec_nbr_list=945489

6x6 Chassis Quad 20mm SPAA

Loyd Carrier 40mm Bofors SP

Ford 132 inch wheelbase, 3-ton, 4x4 truck with quad Polsten guns

Morris C9/B 40mm Bofors SP 

3-ton ford 134 inch wheelbase 4x4 40mm bofors SPAA

Ford F60B CMP Bofors

Ford F60L CMP Triple Polsten

Ford F60 CMP 4x20mm

Ford F15A CMP 20mm Polsten

GM Snowmobile with Bofors 40mm

Grizzly Skink (Cast)

Grizzly Skink (Welded)

Rocket Artillery

M3 Halftrack Tulip

Ford 60cwt flatbed truck with 18 PIAT rocket launchers

Universal Carrier Self-Propelled PIAT Battery

T17e1 Tulip

T17e1 RP3 Mattress

"Grizzly Munus Projector Rocket Mount" or Sherman Land Matress Projector (Paperhttps://i.imgur.com/OgRGn7i.jpg      https://i.imgur.com/IwxVa3f.jpg

ATGM

M113 SS.11B

M113 TUA

M113 ADATS

Iltis TOW

Bobcat Saladin with 4 SS.11 (Paper)

Ferret Scout ENTAC

M37 3/4 ton truck ENTAC 

MBT/Medium

Leopard C1 MEXAS

Leopard C2

Leopard C2 MEXAS

 

 

UK Lend-leased/ Purchased vehicles/Operated from vehicles (Approx 36)

Wheeled

Humber AC II

Humber AC III

Humber AC IV

Dingo w/ AT gun

Dingo w/ .50cal

Daimler AC Mk 1

Daimler AC Mk 1 CS

Morris LRC w/ AT gun

Morris LRC w/ .50cal

Staghound Mk 3

Heavy

Mark V

Matilda II

Matilda IIA/III CS

Churchill 1

Churchill 3

Churchill 4

Medium

Cromwell V

Centaur 4

Valentine Mk X

M4/Sherman Firefly Ic

M4/Sherman Firefly Ic Hybrid

M4A4/Sherman Firefly Vc

Centurion Mk 3

Centurion Mk 5 (20 Pounder)

Centurion Mk 5/2 (105 L/7)

Centurion Mk 6

Centurion Mk 11

SPAA

Crusader AA I

Crusader AA II

Crusader AA III

Light

Vickers Light Mk 6A

Vickers Light Mk 6B

Covenanter Mk IV

Crusader Mk III

SPG

Archer

Turreted SPG

Achilles

 

US Lend-leased/ purchased vehicles (Approx 33 US)

Wheeled

T17e1

M8 Greyhound

Light

M2A4 Stuart

M3A1 Stuart

M3A3

M5 Stuart/Honey
M5A1 Stuart/Honey

M1917

M24

Medium

M3 Lee

M3 Grant

M4 75/Sherman Mk I (Early, Three piece transmission)
M4 75/Sherman Mk I (Late, Single piece transmission)

M4 75/Sherman Mk I Hybrid
M4A1 75/Sherman Mk II (Early 60 Degree UFP, Three ice transmission)
M4A1 75/Sherman Mk II (Early 60 Degree UFP, Single piece transmission)
M4A1 76/Sherman Mk IIA (Early 60 Degree UFP, Single piece transmission)
M4A2 75/Sherman Mk III (Early 60 Degree UFP, Three piece transmission)
M4A2 75/Sherman Mk III (Early 60 Degree UFP, Single piece transmission)

M4A2 76/Sherman Mk IIIA (Late 47 Degree UFP)

M4A2 76/Sherman Mk IIIAY

M4A2 105/Sherman Mk IIIB (Late 47 Degree UFP)
M4A3 76/Sherman Mk IVAY 

M4A4 75/Sherman Mk V

Heavy

Mark VIII

Turreted SPG

M10 (M4A2 chassis)

M109A4

SPG

M7 Priest (Early, Three piece transmission)
M7 Priest (Late, Single piece transmission)

M3 75 GMC

ATGM

M151A2 TOW Jeep

M150 TOW

M150 I-TOW

 

Germany (2)

MBT/Medium

Leopard 1A2
Leopard 1A3 (C1)

Netherlands(1)

Leopard 2A4+

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Charaqat said:

Well I can support this, however, Canada it's self is capable of supporting it's self on all three fronts of units, oddly enough. I've got a list of most vehicles for ground forces here, that should be fairly complete, I don't mean to be a nuisance by mentioning this list, it's just that it should be helpful for anybody who may want to know what there was. 

 

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April 8 2018 (By Charaqat)

 

Canadian made or modified vehicles, also vehicles used by Canada from other countries (Aprox 154 total, within reason.)

 

Canadian ground vehicles (Approx 82 total) 9 paper vehicles, Optional inclusion)

Medium

M3 Lee/Grant 3x 15mm Besa SPAA conversion, Aka M3 CS AA (Retains 75mm) (Paper)

Ram Mk I

Ram Mk II Mk.3 6 Pounder (Early Production)

Ram Mk II Mk.5 6 Pounder (Early Production)

Ram Mk II Mk.3 6 Pounder (Mid Production)

Ram Mk II Mk.5 6 Pounder (Mid Production)

Ram Mk II Mk.5 6 Pounder (Late Production)

Ram Mk II QF75 (Mid Production)

Ram Mk II  QF75 (Late Production)

Ram Mk II CS (29 Ram vehicles fitted with the 95mm CS Howitzer)

Grizzly Mk I

Grizzly Mk Ic

M4A2/Sherman Firefly IIIc (Early 60 Degree UFP, Three piece transmission)

Valentine Mk 6

Valentine Mk 6 (Late Production)

Valentine Mk 7

Valentine Mk 7A

Turreted SPG

Ram 32 Pounder SPG

Ram M10 

M109A4B+
SPG

Universal Carrier 2 Pounder SPG

Lynx SP 2 Pdr

Lynx SP 2 Pdr (With gun shield)

Fox 6pdr SP 

Airborne Self Propelled 6 Pdr Gun (Paper)

25 pdr on armoured 6x6 Mack 10 ton chassis Portee (Only 2 photos of this one, no information is known about it outside of what you can see from those two)

Sexton I 25 Pounder SPG

Sexton II 25 Pounder SPG (Early, Two piece transmission)

Sexton II 25 Pounder SPG (Late, Single piece transmission)

Sexton 17 Pdr SPG (Paper)

Anubis 5.5 Inch SPG (In the Canadian Archives, FIND024/53785) (Paper)

SP 25-pounder on M24 Chassis, "Argus" (Paper)
XA-100 105mm SP Howitzer

Bobcat 105mm SPH

M113 106mm RR

Wheeled

Wolf Mk 1

Wolf Mk 2 (Ram Mk 2 turret with 57mm) (Paper)

Hamilton Bridge/Ford "Wheeled Tank"

Universal Scout Car

Otter LRC w/ AT gun

Otter LRC w/ .50cal

Lynx w/ AT gun

Lynx w/ .50cal

Fox AC w/ .50cal 

M38A1 CDN3 106mm RR Jeep

Cougar AVGP

Coyote Reconnaissance Vehicle

LAV III Kodiak

Heavy

Churchill II Oke (Flamethrower equipment is cosmetic unless otherwise made to work)

Churchill IV AVRE

Churchill VII Croc (Flamethrower equipment is cosmetic unless otherwise made to work)

Light

Light "5 Pounder" TD (Is actually a 6 Pdr) (In the Canadian Archives, FIND024/53731)  (Status N/A)

Project 52, Neno Light tank (In the Canadian Archives, FIND024/53758) (Status N/A)

SPAA

6x6 Chassis Double 20mm SPAA (Paper, cancelled because the quad mount was seen as so good the double was unnecessary)

6x6 Chassis Quad 20mm SPAA

Loyd Carrier 40mm Bofors SP

Ford 132 inch wheelbase, 3-ton, 4x4 truck with quad Polsten guns

Morris C9/B 40mm Bofors SP 

3-ton ford 134 inch wheelbase 4x4 40mm bofors SPAA

Ford F60B CMP Bofors

Ford F60L CMP Triple Polsten

Ford F60 CMP 4x20mm

Ford F15A CMP 20mm Polsten

GM Snowmobile with Bofors 40mm

Grizzly Skink (Cast)

Grizzly Skink (Welded)

Rocket Artillery

M3 Halftrack Tulip

Ford 60cwt flatbed truck with 18 PIAT rocket launchers

Bren Carrier Self-Propelled PIAT Battery

T17e1 Tulip

T17e1 RP3 Mattress

"Grizzly Munus Projector Rocket Mount" (Paper)

ATGM

M113 SS.11B

M113 TUA

M113 ADATS

Iltis TOW

Bobcat Saladin with 4 SS.11 (Paper)

Ferret Scout ENTAC

M37 3/4 ton truck ENTAC 

MBT/Medium

Leopard C1 MEXAS

Leopard C2

Leopard C2 MEXAS

 

 

UK Lend-leased/ Purchased vehicles/Operated from vehicles (Approx 37)

Wheeled

Humber AC II

Humber AC III

Humber AC IV

Dingo w/ AT gun

Dingo w/ .50cal

Daimler AC Mk 1

Daimler AC Mk 1 CS

Morris LRC w/ AT gun

Morris LRC w/ .50cal

Staghound Mk 3

Heavy

Mark V

Matilda II

Matilda IIA/III CS

Churchill 1

Churchill 3

Churchill 4

Medium

Cromwell V

Centaur 4

Valentine Mk X

M4/Sherman Firefly Ic

M4/Sherman Firefly Ic Hybrid

M4A4/Sherman Firefly Vc

AC Mk 3/4 Canadian Lend-leased (Bar-code 440594 in the Australian Archives)

Centurion Mk 3

Centurion Mk 5 (20 Pounder)

Centurion Mk 5/2 (105 L/7)

Centurion Mk 6

Centurion Mk 11

SPAA

Crusader AA I

Crusader AA II

Crusader AA III

Light

Vickers Light Mk 6A

Vickers Light Mk 6B

Covenanter Mk IV

Crusader Mk III

SPG

Archer

Turreted SPG

Achilles

 

US Lend-leased/ purchased vehicles (Approx 29 US)

Wheeled

T17e1

M8 Greyhound

Light

M2A4 Stuart

M3A1 Stuart

M3A3

M5 Stuart/Honey

M1917

M24

Medium

M3 Lee

M3 Grant

M4 75/Sherman Mk I (Early, Two piece transmission)
M4 75/Sherman Mk I (Late, Single piece transmission)

M4 75/Sherman Mk I Hybrid
M4A2 75/Sherman Mk III (Early 60 Degree UFP, Two piece transmission)
M4A2 75/Sherman Mk III (Early 60 Degree UFP, Single piece transmission)

M4A2 76/Sherman Mk IIIA (Late 47 Degree UFP)

M4A2 76/Sherman Mk IIIAY

M4A2 105/Sherman Mk IIIB (Late 47 Degree UFP)
M4A3 76/Sherman Mk IVAY 

M4A4 75/Sherman Mk V

Heavy

Mark VIII

Turreted SPG

M10 (M4A2 chassis)

M109A4

SPG

M7 Priest (Early, Two piece transmission)
M7 Priest (Late, Single piece transmission)

M3 75 GMC

ATGM

M151A2 TOW Jeep

M150 TOW

M150 I-TOW

 

Germany (2)

MBT/Medium

Leopard 1A2
Leopard 1A3 (C1)

Netherlands(1)

Leopard 2A4+

 

Captured (2)

SPG

Semovente da 75/18 M42

Nashorn enough for a countr

April 8 2018 (By Charaqat)

 

Canadian made or modified vehicles, also vehicles used by Canada from other countries (Aprox 154 total, within reason.)

 

Canadian ground vehicles (Approx 82 total) 9 paper vehicles, Optional inclusion)

Medium

M3 Lee/Grant 3x 15mm Besa SPAA conversion, Aka M3 CS AA (Retains 75mm) (Paper)

Ram Mk I

Ram Mk II Mk.3 6 Pounder (Early Production)

Ram Mk II Mk.5 6 Pounder (Early Production)

Ram Mk II Mk.3 6 Pounder (Mid Production)

Ram Mk II Mk.5 6 Pounder (Mid Production)

Ram Mk II Mk.5 6 Pounder (Late Production)

Ram Mk II QF75 (Mid Production)

Ram Mk II  QF75 (Late Production)

Ram Mk II CS (29 Ram vehicles fitted with the 95mm CS Howitzer)

Grizzly Mk I

Grizzly Mk Ic

M4A2/Sherman Firefly IIIc (Early 60 Degree UFP, Two piece transmission)

Valentine Mk 6

Valentine Mk 6 (Late Production)

Valentine Mk 7

Valentine Mk 7A

Turreted SPG

Ram 32 Pounder SPG

Ram M10 

M109A4B+
SPG

Universal Carrier 2 Pounder SPG

Lynx SP 2 Pdr

Lynx SP 2 Pdr (With gun shield)

Fox 6pdr SP 

Airborne Self Propelled 6 Pdr Gun (Paper)

25 pdr on armoured 6x6 Mack 10 ton chassis Portee (Only 2 photos of this one, no information is known about it outside of what you can see from those two)

Sexton I 25 Pounder SPG

Sexton II 25 Pounder SPG (Early, Two piece transmission)

Sexton II 25 Pounder SPG (Late, Single piece transmission)

Sexton 17 Pdr SPG (Paper)

Anubis 5.5 Inch SPG (In the Canadian Archives, FIND024/53785) (Paper)

SP 25-pounder on M24 Chassis, "Argus" (Paper)
XA-100 105mm SP Howitzer

Bobcat 105mm SPH

M113 106mm RR

Wheeled

Wolf Mk 1

Wolf Mk 2 (Ram Mk 2 turret with 57mm) (Paper)

Hamilton Bridge/Ford "Wheeled Tank"

Universal Scout Car

Otter LRC w/ AT gun

Otter LRC w/ .50cal

Lynx w/ AT gun

Lynx w/ .50cal

Fox AC w/ .50cal 

M38A1 CDN3 106mm RR Jeep

Cougar AVGP

Coyote Reconnaissance Vehicle

LAV III Kodiak

Heavy

Churchill II Oke (Flamethrower equipment is cosmetic unless otherwise made to work)

Churchill IV AVRE

Churchill VII Croc (Flamethrower equipment is cosmetic unless otherwise made to work)

Light

Light "5 Pounder" TD (Is actually a 6 Pdr) (In the Canadian Archives, FIND024/53731)  (Status N/A)

Project 52, Neno Light tank (In the Canadian Archives, FIND024/53758) (Status N/A)

SPAA

6x6 Chassis Double 20mm SPAA (Paper, cancelled because the quad mount was seen as so good the double was unnecessary)

6x6 Chassis Quad 20mm SPAA

Loyd Carrier 40mm Bofors SP

Ford 132 inch wheelbase, 3-ton, 4x4 truck with quad Polsten guns

Morris C9/B 40mm Bofors SP 

3-ton ford 134 inch wheelbase 4x4 40mm bofors SPAA

Ford F60B CMP Bofors

Ford F60L CMP Triple Polsten

Ford F60 CMP 4x20mm

Ford F15A CMP 20mm Polsten

GM Snowmobile with Bofors 40mm

Grizzly Skink (Cast)

Grizzly Skink (Welded)

Rocket Artillery

M3 Halftrack Tulip

Ford 60cwt flatbed truck with 18 PIAT rocket launchers

Bren Carrier Self-Propelled PIAT Battery

T17e1 Tulip

T17e1 RP3 Mattress

"Grizzly Munus Projector Rocket Mount" (Paper)

ATGM

M113 SS.11B

M113 TUA

M113 ADATS

Iltis TOW

Bobcat Saladin with 4 SS.11 (Paper)

Ferret Scout ENTAC

M37 3/4 ton truck ENTAC 

MBT/Medium

Leopard C1 MEXAS

Leopard C2

Leopard C2 MEXAS

 

 

UK Lend-leased/ Purchased vehicles/Operated from vehicles (Approx 37)

Wheeled

Humber AC II

Humber AC III

Humber AC IV

Dingo w/ AT gun

Dingo w/ .50cal

Daimler AC Mk 1

Daimler AC Mk 1 CS

Morris LRC w/ AT gun

Morris LRC w/ .50cal

Staghound Mk 3

Heavy

Mark V

Matilda II

Matilda IIA/III CS

Churchill 1

Churchill 3

Churchill 4

Medium

Cromwell V

Centaur 4

Valentine Mk X

M4/Sherman Firefly Ic

M4/Sherman Firefly Ic Hybrid

M4A4/Sherman Firefly Vc

AC Mk 3/4 Canadian Lend-leased (Bar-code 440594 in the Australian Archives)

Centurion Mk 3

Centurion Mk 5 (20 Pounder)

Centurion Mk 5/2 (105 L/7)

Centurion Mk 6

Centurion Mk 11

SPAA

Crusader AA I

Crusader AA II

Crusader AA III

Light

Vickers Light Mk 6A

Vickers Light Mk 6B

Covenanter Mk IV

Crusader Mk III

SPG

Archer

Turreted SPG

Achilles

 

US Lend-leased/ purchased vehicles (Approx 29 US)

Wheeled

T17e1

M8 Greyhound

Light

M2A4 Stuart

M3A1 Stuart

M3A3

M5 Stuart/Honey

M1917

M24

Medium

M3 Lee

M3 Grant

M4 75/Sherman Mk I (Early, Two piece transmission)
M4 75/Sherman Mk I (Late, Single piece transmission)

M4 75/Sherman Mk I Hybrid
M4A2 75/Sherman Mk III (Early 60 Degree UFP, Two piece transmission)
M4A2 75/Sherman Mk III (Early 60 Degree UFP, Single piece transmission)

M4A2 76/Sherman Mk IIIA (Late 47 Degree UFP)

M4A2 76/Sherman Mk IIIAY

M4A2 105/Sherman Mk IIIB (Late 47 Degree UFP)
M4A3 76/Sherman Mk IVAY 

M4A4 75/Sherman Mk V

Heavy

Mark VIII

Turreted SPG

M10 (M4A2 chassis)

M109A4

SPG

M7 Priest (Early, Two piece transmission)
M7 Priest (Late, Single piece transmission)

M3 75 GMC

ATGM

M151A2 TOW Jeep

M150 TOW

M150 I-TOW

 

Germany (2)

MBT/Medium

Leopard 1A2
Leopard 1A3 (C1)

Netherlands(1)

Leopard 2A4+

 

Captured (2)

SPG

Semovente da 75/18 M42

Nashorn thats not as major as an

April 8 2018 (By Charaqat)

 

Canadian made or modified vehicles, also vehicles used by Canada from other countries (Aprox 154 total, within reason.)

 

Canadian ground vehicles (Approx 82 total) 9 paper vehicles, Optional inclusion)

Medium

M3 Lee/Grant 3x 15mm Besa SPAA conversion, Aka M3 CS AA (Retains 75mm) (Paper)

Ram Mk I

Ram Mk II Mk.3 6 Pounder (Early Production)

Ram Mk II Mk.5 6 Pounder (Early Production)

Ram Mk II Mk.3 6 Pounder (Mid Production)

Ram Mk II Mk.5 6 Pounder (Mid Production)

Ram Mk II Mk.5 6 Pounder (Late Production)

Ram Mk II QF75 (Mid Production)

Ram Mk II  QF75 (Late Production)

Ram Mk II CS (29 Ram vehicles fitted with the 95mm CS Howitzer)

Grizzly Mk I

Grizzly Mk Ic

M4A2/Sherman Firefly IIIc (Early 60 Degree UFP, Two piece transmission)

Valentine Mk 6

Valentine Mk 6 (Late Production)

Valentine Mk 7

Valentine Mk 7A

Turreted SPG

Ram 32 Pounder SPG

Ram M10 

M109A4B+
SPG

Universal Carrier 2 Pounder SPG

Lynx SP 2 Pdr

Lynx SP 2 Pdr (With gun shield)

Fox 6pdr SP 

Airborne Self Propelled 6 Pdr Gun (Paper)

25 pdr on armoured 6x6 Mack 10 ton chassis Portee (Only 2 photos of this one, no information is known about it outside of what you can see from those two)

Sexton I 25 Pounder SPG

Sexton II 25 Pounder SPG (Early, Three piece transmission)

Sexton II 25 Pounder SPG (Late, Single piece transmission)

Sexton 17 Pdr SPG (Paper)

Anubis 5.5 Inch SPG (In the Canadian Archives, FIND024/53785) (Paper)

SP 25-pounder on M24 Chassis, "Argus" (Paper)
XA-100 105mm SP Howitzer

Bobcat 105mm SPH

M113 106mm RR

Wheeled

Wolf Mk 1

Wolf Mk 2 (Ram Mk 2 turret with 57mm) (Paper)

Hamilton Bridge/Ford "Wheeled Tank"

Universal Scout Car

Otter LRC w/ AT gun

Otter LRC w/ .50cal

Lynx w/ AT gun

Lynx w/ .50cal

Fox AC w/ .50cal 

M38A1 CDN3 106mm RR Jeep

Cougar AVGP

Coyote Reconnaissance Vehicle

LAV III Kodiak

Heavy

Churchill II Oke (Flamethrower equipment is cosmetic unless otherwise made to work)

Churchill IV AVRE

Churchill VII Croc (Flamethrower equipment is cosmetic unless otherwise made to work)

Light

Light "5 Pounder" TD (Is actually a 6 Pdr) (In the Canadian Archives, FIND024/53731)  (Status N/A)

Project 52, Neno Light tank (In the Canadian Archives, FIND024/53758) (Status N/A)

SPAA

6x6 Chassis Double 20mm SPAA (Paper, cancelled because the quad mount was seen as so good the double was unnecessary)

6x6 Chassis Quad 20mm SPAA

Loyd Carrier 40mm Bofors SP

Ford 132 inch wheelbase, 3-ton, 4x4 truck with quad Polsten guns

Morris C9/B 40mm Bofors SP 

3-ton ford 134 inch wheelbase 4x4 40mm bofors SPAA

Ford F60B CMP Bofors

Ford F60L CMP Triple Polsten

Ford F60 CMP 4x20mm

Ford F15A CMP 20mm Polsten

GM Snowmobile with Bofors 40mm

Grizzly Skink (Cast)

Grizzly Skink (Welded)

Rocket Artillery

M3 Halftrack Tulip

Ford 60cwt flatbed truck with 18 PIAT rocket launchers

Bren Carrier Self-Propelled PIAT Battery

T17e1 Tulip

T17e1 RP3 Mattress

"Grizzly Munus Projector Rocket Mount" (Paper)

ATGM

M113 SS.11B

M113 TUA

M113 ADATS

Iltis TOW

Bobcat Saladin with 4 SS.11 (Paper)

Ferret Scout ENTAC

M37 3/4 ton truck ENTAC 

MBT/Medium

Leopard C1 MEXAS

Leopard C2

Leopard C2 MEXAS

 

 

UK Lend-leased/ Purchased vehicles/Operated from vehicles (Approx 37)

Wheeled

Humber AC II

Humber AC III

Humber AC IV

Dingo w/ AT gun

Dingo w/ .50cal

Daimler AC Mk 1

Daimler AC Mk 1 CS

Morris LRC w/ AT gun

Morris LRC w/ .50cal

Staghound Mk 3

Heavy

Mark V

Matilda II

Matilda IIA/III CS

Churchill 1

Churchill 3

Churchill 4

Medium

Cromwell V

Centaur 4

Valentine Mk X

M4/Sherman Firefly Ic

M4/Sherman Firefly Ic Hybrid

M4A4/Sherman Firefly Vc

AC Mk 3/4 Canadian Lend-leased (Bar-code 440594 in the Australian Archives)

Centurion Mk 3

Centurion Mk 5 (20 Pounder)

Centurion Mk 5/2 (105 L/7)

Centurion Mk 6

Centurion Mk 11

SPAA

Crusader AA I

Crusader AA II

Crusader AA III

Light

Vickers Light Mk 6A

Vickers Light Mk 6B

Covenanter Mk IV

Crusader Mk III

SPG

Archer

Turreted SPG

Achilles

 

US Lend-leased/ purchased vehicles (Approx 29 US)

Wheeled

T17e1

M8 Greyhound

Light

M2A4 Stuart

M3A1 Stuart

M3A3

M5 Stuart/Honey

M1917

M24

Medium

M3 Lee

M3 Grant

M4 75/Sherman Mk I (Early, Three piece transmission)
M4 75/Sherman Mk I (Late, Single piece transmission)

M4 75/Sherman Mk I Hybrid
M4A2 75/Sherman Mk III (Early 60 Degree UFP, Three piece transmission)
M4A2 75/Sherman Mk III (Early 60 Degree UFP, Single piece transmission)

M4A2 76/Sherman Mk IIIA (Late 47 Degree UFP)

M4A2 76/Sherman Mk IIIAY

M4A2 105/Sherman Mk IIIB (Late 47 Degree UFP)
M4A3 76/Sherman Mk IVAY 

M4A4 75/Sherman Mk V

Heavy

Mark VIII

Turreted SPG

M10 (M4A2 chassis)

M109A4

SPG

M7 Priest (Early, Three piece transmission)
M7 Priest (Late, Single piece transmission)

M3 75 GMC

ATGM

M151A2 TOW Jeep

M150 TOW

M150 I-TOW

 

Germany (2)

MBT/Medium

Leopard 1A2
Leopard 1A3 (C1)

Netherlands(1)

Leopard 2A4+

 

Captured (2)

SPG

Semovente da 75/18 M42

Nashorn

 

 

 

I saw a list like this when I was poking around the forums making this thing. I spent an eternity looking for the Neno light tank, but I guess It doesn't exist. I tried to include most of what's there, although I did see some new stuff. I didn't know Canada wanted some of our AC tanks. Canada is fully capable of it's own tree n the ground and in the air, but I personally think it's be better for a mega tree for all the nations of the commonwealth, seeing as Canada is literally the only commonwealth nation capable of supporting itself and the rest rely on each other.

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4 minutes ago, TheFinalStarman said:

 

I saw a list like this when I was poking around the forums making this thing. I spent an eternity looking for the Neno light tank, but I guess It doesn't exist. I tried to include most of what's there, although I did see some new stuff. I didn't know Canada wanted some of our AC tanks. Canada is fully capable of it's own tree n the ground and in the air, but I personally think it's be better for a mega tree for all the nations of the commonwealth, seeing as Canada is literally the only commonwealth nation capable of supporting itself and the rest rely on each other.

yeah. I'll see if i can recover the sources I've used to have for the vehicles that have something like "FIND024/53758" on em'.
I've used to have them but I gathered most of their information while using a chrome book that I no longer have, its just a pain to find where the archive is online atm.

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Well, I've added links to the archives alongside the vehicles that are applicable, that took a few hours to do. However It is needed to request them directly to gain access to further information other then what the links provide. 

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I would totally support this. The Commonwealth would certainly be an interesting tech tree.

 

Although it would be very marginal you could add Ireland to the ground force list since they did modify some tanks.

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Interesting idea. I would like this - though I would like some way for the Indian and Pakistan forces to fight each other, as they had some epic tank engagements. So different trees for them.

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Even though i supported a commonwealth tree with Great britain, gaijin already banned some commonwealth-vehicles in the GBs trees premium section and they don´t show any interests to bring some regular ones in the GB tree (e.g they choosed the Vickers MBT, a tank that was not developed for and not used by Great Britain over the indian Vijayanta). So i see no other possibilitiy to see some of those vehicles

 

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17 hours ago, stefffff1871 said:

Even though i supported a commonwealth tree with Great britain, gaijin already banned some commonwealth-vehicles in the GBs trees premium section and they don´t show any interests to bring some regular ones in the GB tree (e.g they choosed the Vickers MBT, a tank that was not developed for and not used by Great Britain over the indian Vijayanta). So i see no other possibilitiy to see some of those vehicles

 

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the Vijayanta is not actually a Vickers MBT Mk.1 even if they are nearly identical. the gun is a up-graded variant and there is a few internal difference on the Vijayanta. the Vicker MBT mk 1 wasn't used anywhere once we put them appart to the Vijayanta. even if the put the Vijayanta in the implemented section after they added the vickers Mk.1, i think it is not yet implemented.

 

 

for your tree. i know they wasn't totally dependent yet but the Indian airfield used many Hawk 75 under the name of Mohawk. they was mostly french planes who didn't reach France before France fall. they was not 100% finished but they had the engine and the frame finished. only the pilot sit and armament was missing. the British took those french planes, fitted them with .303 machine-gun and used those planes in the colonies such as south Africa and India. they also retained the Chinese Hawk 75A-5 in India after the Chinese moved their production in India to keep it out of reach from the Japanese. those plane was assembled from part shipped from USA which mean technically, India produced those planes.

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it would be nice to consider the sherman D-56

M4A4-D56-T.jpg

 

It's a indian modification of the sherman with the same gun found on the Pt-76

 

they also use the French gun Sa-50 like those french sherman in the game

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9 hours ago, CaID said:

it would be nice to consider the sherman D-56

M4A4-D56-T.jpg

 

It's a indian modification of the sherman with the same gun found on the Pt-76

 

they also use the French gun Sa-50 like those french sherman in the game

M4A4-Sa50.jpg

 

I included the Sherman D56-T in the tree under the name "M4A4 D56-T", it is quite a unique tank. I'd probably consider putting the SA-50 one in the tree, too

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On 08/05/2018 at 12:01 PM, TheFinalStarman said:

Ground Tree: -snip-

First of all, any references of the Black Prince (assuming the A.43 Black Prince, which is currently in game as a tier 4 premium) was used by Canada? as far as I know only six were made and only trialled within the UK (though would need to double check the one book I've got which covers it, going off top of my head).

And unfortunately I can't support a Commonwealth tech tree which doesn't include the UK, seeing as it's still part of the Commonwealth, however I do support a combined British Commonwealth tree as shown by the mock tree I've done which attempts to fit in non-British Commonwealth designs into the known restrictions imposed on tech trees (eg. no more than five lines per tree).

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It's a good idea, but this tree seems still a few too many copy-paste.

 

I think we need to check all of member states in Commonwealth (include former) to see if there is any vehicle we can use.

 

For example, Singapore:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipment_of_the_Singaporean_Army

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipment_of_the_Republic_of_Singapore_Navy

 

or we still have plan B , just like PRC vehicles is better to be put into USSR tree. :D

 

 

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8 hours ago, JimSan said:

First of all, any references of the Black Prince (assuming the A.43 Black Prince, which is currently in game as a tier 4 premium) was used by Canada? as far as I know only six were made and only trialled within the UK (though would need to double check the one book I've got which covers it, going off top of my head).

And unfortunately I can't support a Commonwealth tech tree which doesn't include the UK, seeing as it's still part of the Commonwealth, however I do support a combined British Commonwealth tree as shown by the mock tree I've done which attempts to fit in non-British Commonwealth designs into the known restrictions imposed on tech trees (eg. no more than five lines per tree).

 

The black prince is based on the fact that Canada was supposed to get them in the same way they were supposed to get Churchill Gun Carriers, but didn't because A): the Black Prince design had become redundant due to the introduction of the Centurion and B): Vauxhall threw a hissy fit over having to export it. Think of it like the Canadian Heavy Tank no. 6. (Canada also ordered some AC I Sentinel and AC III  Thunderbolt tanks for Australia, but they never went through either).

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Was digging through the Australian War Memorial archives, found this: A Chevrolet 4x4 20 cwt truck with a captured 20mm Breda 35 AA gun. As far as I can tell, this is Australia's only SPAA to date. 

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1 hour ago, TheFinalStarman said:

Was digging through the Australian War Memorial archives, found this: A Chevrolet 4x4 20 cwt truck with a captured 20mm Breda 35 AA gun. As far as I can tell, this is Australia's only SPAA to date. 

Chevrolet 4x4 20 cwt 20mm Breda 35.jpg

 

There is some other Australian truck mounted AAA. I know there was a few variations of 40mm, and I think a triple mount 2x20mm and a Bren. There's bound to be a few more

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