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Fwd:2018-03-27 AMX-30B2 Brenus APFSDS underperforming and missing shell


Hello,

At the moment, the OFL 105 F1 is underperforming:
APFSDS-LOS2.png

Currently the OFL 105 F1 has a penetration of roughly 385mm @100m @30° Angle of attack (60° sloped armour)

The original manufacturer brochure list the OFL 105 F1 with 460mm @muzzle (10m) against 60° sloped armour (30° Angle of attack)
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that means that the OFL 105 F1 is underperforming by ~75mm LOS

Missing shells on the B2 Brenus:

The B2 Brenus is a 90s version of the already combatproven AMX-30
During its sevicetime the Ammo was upgraded to keep up with other tanks
B2 Brenus should have the OFL 105 G2 which was in service till the tank was decommissioned.
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source:
http://cdn.ihs.com/Janes/Sample-content-IHS-Janes-Weapons-Ammunition.pdf

Giat Ammo brochure

Best regards
dotEXCEL


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some more Infos can be found here:
AMX-30, Volume I: Char de Bataille 1966-2006: ISBN-10: 8362878991 ISBN-13: 978-8362878994
Amx-30, Volume II: Char de Bataille 1966-2006: ISBN-10: 8364596047 ISBN-13: 978-8364596049
AMX-30 Family: ISBN-10: 8364596241 ISBN-13: 978-8364596247

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Hello @dotEXCEL

 

Thank you for the report.

I will read through what you've posted, investigate, test and get back to you.

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back on 1.75 Devserver the OFL 105 F1 had these penetation values
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these were actally overperforming by ~20mm vs 90° at muzzle
due to the introduction of tanks like the M1, CR1 and 64B, the AMX 30's APFSDS shell needs to be adjusted, once more, giving also the major disadvantage the french have (lack of armour and stabilizer, also the worse mobility) they rely on that first shot, fired from a long range. atm this is not possible due to the underperforming of the OFL 105 F1


Solution:
1. Eighter readjust the pen of the OFL 105 F1 or
2. Introduction of the OFL 105 G2 as a researchable modification

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On 26.3.2018 at 12:58 AM, ganJ said:

Thank you for additional info please make list all used sources

Sources:

The pages are from a document shown in Display Case in the Tankmuseum in Saumur (Le Musée des Blindés de Saumur).
A copy of these pages can be found in the French archives located at Chatelrault

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1513978139-17309315-10155082299323187-83
1513976164-17458287-10155082299308187-37


Systemes d'arme: Weapon systems Sistemas de armas 2000 by @___PANTHER___ and @No_Camping

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GIAT ALL OFL 105 ammo COVER (Official Catalogue).jpg
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some more Infos can be found here:
AMX-30, Volume I: Char de Bataille 1966-2006: ISBN-10: 8362878991 ISBN-13: 978-8362878994
Amx-30, Volume II: Char de Bataille 1966-2006: ISBN-10: 8364596047 ISBN-13: 978-8364596049
AMX-30 Family: ISBN-10: 8364596241 ISBN-13: 978-8364596247
 

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  • ganJ changed the title to Fwd:2018-03-27 AMX-30B2 Brenus APFSDS underperforming and missing shell

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