29/1/18 D4Y3 inaccurate name

[Miki_Hoshii 2,449]

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The D4Y3 in War Thunder doesn't have a completely accurate name. D4Y3's equipped with the Type 2 13mm Machine gun (MG131) were known as D4Y3a's to separate it from the 7.92mm armed D4Y3's.

 

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D4Y3

 

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Change the in-game name from D4Y3 to D4Y3a (More correct way would be D4Y3 Ko)
 

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Page 676 in The Illustrated encyclopedia of 20th century weapons and warfare, Volume 7

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Edited February 2, 2018 by Miki_Hoshii

[Rapitor 10,702]

Hi.

 

We need 2 books / historical sources when not using a OEM document as reference.

 

Could you please find another reference as such naming to make it entirely compliant and passed to devs ?

 

Regards

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Hello.

 

I agree with the OP.

Since the D4Y3 in the game is equipped with 13 mm type 2 flexible machine gun (MG 131), the historical name is D4Y3a.

However, if it conforms to the rules of the names of other Japanese Navy aircraft already in the game, it will be D4Y3 Ko.

Historically correct is D4Y3a. "Ko" is used in official model name.

 

Sources

Historical documents:

Spoiler

 

Quote

假稱　彗星三三型: Tentative name, Suisei Model 33  (D4Y3)
艦上爆撃機（金星發動機六一型又ハ六二型装備）:
Navy Carrier Dive bomber (Equipped with Kinsei engine 61 model or 62 models)

假稱　彗星三三甲型: Tentative name, Suisei Model 33 Ko (D4Y3a)
彗星三三型ノ後席上方ニ、二式十三粍旋回機銃一装備ノモノ:
A variant equipped with a single 13 mm type 2 flexible machine gun above the rear of the Suisei Model 33 (D4Y3).

 

Summary of military secret order: category-5 aviation (軍極秘内令提要：第５類　航空). Ministry of the Navy (Japan) (海軍省). November 1944. Page 8.

JACAR(Japan Center for Asian Historical Records)Ref.C13072067300, (National Institute for Defense Studies)

https://www.jacar.archives.go.jp/aj/contents/pdf/C13/C13072067300.c1160c00005.naireiteiyou_017.0827_01.pdf

https://www.jacar.archives.go.jp/das/meta-en/C13072067300

 

 

Books 1:

Spoiler

 

Japanese military aircraft photograph collection. Ushioshobokojinshinsha Co., Ltd, December 2001. ISBN-13: 978-4769812258. Page 258-259.

 

 

Books 2:

Spoiler

 

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Translation:

"Abbreviated Sign"

 

It is made up of "Alphabet / Arabic numerals / Alphabet / Arabic numerals" 4 characters.

 

1st Alphabet: Role
2nd Numerals: How many prototypes were made in Role
3rd Alphabet: Prototype Manufacturer
4th Numerals: Remodeling order (For prototypes only 1, every time a new production model is adopted and it is adopted 2, 3, 4 and so on.)

 

In order to distinguish mainly armed differences, "Ko", "Otsu", "Hei", "Tei" is added in the official model name, 
but abbreviated sign adds lower case letters alphabetically after the fourth arabic numerals in order from "a".
(Example: "Mitsubishi Zero fighter Model 52 Otsu" is A6M5b.)

 

Original:
『略符号』

 

アルファベット/アラビア数字/アルファベット/アラビア数字の4文字から成る。

 

1文字目は機種を、
2文字目はその機種で何番目の試作かを、
3文字目は試作会社の頭文字、
4文字目は改造度（試作だけで終われば当然1のみ、採用されて新しい生産型が生まれるたびに2、3、4と続く）。

 

制式名称の型式に追加される、主に武装の違いを区別する甲、乙、丙、丁の記号に相当するものは、
小文字のアルファベットを"a"から順に、4文字目のアラビア数字のあとに付した
（例：零戦五二乙型はA6M5bとなる）。

 

Japanese military aircraft dictionary 1910-1945 Navy version. Written by Shigeru  Nohara. March 2005. ISBN-13: 978-4871496544, Page 168-169.

Edited January 29, 2018 by *tester188

[Rapitor 10,702]

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[Miki_Hoshii 2,449]

Yes; tester is correct. D4Y3a is mostly used in western sources; but the correct official name would be D4Y3 Ko given that other aircraft in WT use that naming scheme.