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It has been more than two months the French tanks were added. During this time, tanks wich were already middling were nerfed.

Still waiting for changes in tier 1/tier 2 but maybe these tanks are fine when you don't play them.

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6 hours ago, PanzerCell said:

t has been more than two months the French tanks were added. During this time, tanks wich were already middling were nerfed.

Do you have examples of French tanks which were actually nerfed? I did not notice it.
Good news (Russian forum), the tanks will autoloader will be able soon to reload one shell at a time, just by standing still (on a cap?)

 

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On 11/02/2018 at 6:56 PM, No_Camping said:

Do you have examples of French tanks which were actually nerfed? I did not notice it.

 

AMX-30's APFSDS, AMX-30 and AMX-13 reverse speed, Somua S35 frontal armor...

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On 17/02/2018 at 4:26 PM, No_Camping said:

Oh you mean since the DEV server. But not since the opening of the CBT

 

Yes, and also, the CCKW 353 is missing crew members.

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14 minutes ago, dotEXCEL said:

 

show some love

 

Im not surprised.... French tanks are a niche tech tree not many person care about  them. There is also a lot of wrong information going around on the internet.... ( thats the payback for leaving permanent NATO council, something USA and UK really did not lile back in the time)

 

 

When you read that AMX 30 was the worst protected MBT ever built, because 79 mm at 69° is totally worse than 70 mm at 60° ( Leopard 1) right ?

 

All in all. French tanks in collective mind ar subpar at best..... if Germany suffers the invicible tiger syndrome attracting a lot of players, France and aslo Japan suffer the tanks that are not so good syndrome.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Tantor57 said:

Im not surprised.... French tanks are a niche tech tree not many person care about  them. There is also a lot of wrong information going around on the internet.... ( thats the payback for leaving permanent NATO council, something USA and UK really did not lile back in the time)

 

 

When you read that AMX 30 was the worst protected MBT ever built, because 79 mm at 69° is totally worse than 70 mm at 60° ( Leopard 1) right ?

 

All in all. French tanks in collective mind ar subpar at best..... if Germany suffers the invicible tiger syndrome attracting a lot of players, France and aslo Japan suffer the tanks that are not so good syndrome.

 

they doctrine is so much different than all the other European countries that they somehow always got overseen, the fact that the french indeed build a shell, which was in service till 93 tells you everything. also the fact that that the 30 had such a long service live speaks for the engineering quality.

In my honest opinion the 30 is on par with the Leo 1.
 

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Only once; I shot, and I immediately had the green circle after (as if I was fully reloaded), but could no shoot (it was not showing the reloading process). But after, the normal reload time I could shoot.
So I guess that's what happened to you?

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On 1/4/2018 at 7:48 PM, No_Camping said:


 

  • BR 5.0-5.7: nothing to play there except for the ARL-44 (BR 5.7) that you will rather use, at your own risk, at BR 6.0-6.3… Of course, Gaijin could add there the M4 (76) but they would be exactly the same as the US ones (see above).


Gaijin could give the ARL 44 and AMX M4 the experimental Tungsten core AP shell that was tested for the SA 45 90mm: 

5ac53c6659360_ARL44ammunitionlist.thumb.

The Tungsten core shell, as noted above, had a muzzle velocity of 1,130 m/s and could penetrate 170mm's of flat armor at 1,000m. Another thing to note is that the Magnesium ballistic capped shell (APC) could only penetrate 150mm's of armor at 1,000m so the APC shell in the game is slightly overperforming at that range (though it helps due to not having the other shell). The experimental shell was not produced due to the French Military's decision to retire the ARL 44's and order M47 Patton tanks. It would be a great addition for both the ARL 44 and AMX M4 in that they would be able to face heavily armored target's better than they can now when being uptiered. 

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As you can see, when you write good reports, Gaijin actually listens (they explicitly cite the source I gave them) . Of course, with this monster reload times the BR of the Surbaissé and the Lorraine were rightfully increased to 8.0 and 6.7...
 

Ground Vehicle model, damage model, characteristic and weaponry changes:
Lorraine40t/AMX-50 - The fire rate for first-order ammo racks has been changed from 9 to 15 shots per minute. Source: The Direction des Etudes et Fabrications d'Armement, Char de 40T. The reload time for first-order ammo racks has been changed from 12 to 18 seconds.
AMX-50 Surbaisse - The fire rate for first-order ammo racks has been changed from 8 to 10 shots per minute. Source: Tourelle Oscillante Basse de 120 - TOB-120, Description - spécification technique, Compagnie des Ateliers et Forges de la Loire. The reload time for first-order ammo racks has been changed from 15 to 20 seconds.

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Dont know if this is the right place to post this but

the AMX13 (FL11)'s ammo is soppused to fire at 620ish meters per second yet in game handles like 385 meters per second

basicly the velocity should be the same as a sherman yet resembles more the panzer 4 F1 APCBC

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Is the AMX-13 supposed to be so slow? Both the AMX-50 and Lorraine are faster

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3 hours ago, Slipslime said:

Is the AMX-13 supposed to be so slow? Both the AMX-50 and Lorraine are faster

 

Well it has an hp/horse power of only 17 hp/t or so, far from being stellar.

It was light to be air transportable (but the plane supposed to carry it was never produced) and projected abroad, not in order to be fast.

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8 hours ago, Slipslime said:

Is the AMX-13 supposed to be so slow? Both the AMX-50 and Lorraine are faster

It is a tank whose mobility improves a lot once you get the filters/transmission/engine modifications, the problem being the power not the max speed (same as Lorraine and 10 km/h faster than AMX-50). Fully spaded it is in fact very fast/reactive/agile

 

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