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Rockwell OV-10 Bronco - General Information

North American / Rockwell OV-10 "Bronco"

 

Hello all!
This thread is about the OV-10 and its variations, technical data and more.
I want to discuss this very interesting airplane with you guys and spread awareness of it in the War Thunder community to maybe get it as flyable plane in WT.



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History:
The general history of the OV-10 bronco airplane and how it came to life, from a little conversation to the final product:

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the first steps

The OV-10 dates back to a conversation between the 2 USMC pilots and veterans of the korean war named W.H. Beckett and K.P. Rice, it was one of those conversations of the type "What the Marine Corps really needs…” one of many between USMC personel since 1775. This conversation however resulted in a drafting paper for a new aircraft, the draft was called: Light, Light Support Aircraft, or L²VMA (VMA being the designation for a Marine attack squadron.). This paper got subtitled Into: “The Need, Concept of Operation and General Specifications for a Very Light S.T.O.L. Support Aircraft”
The capabilities asked for where quite straightforward for a light attack plane for a limited war scenario.

 


the paper asked for:
1) Capable of operating with troops off of unimproved fields or roads lined with trees requiring a trailing arm type of landing gear.
2) Capable of STOL operation.
3) Shoulder mounted wing with the crew area unobstructed in a forward location.
4) Capable of supporting helicopter or armored operations.
5) Capable of supporting anti-helicopter and anti-armor operations.
6) Capable of performing armed reconnaissance.
7) Capable of burning any type of fuel, especially that available to frontline units.
8) Capable of utilizing ground unit ordnance including .30 machine guns and a 106mm recoilless rifle.
9) Capable of reconfiguration, from attack to cargo.
10) Capable of accommodating an observer.
11) Capable of water based operation with floats.

 

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L²VMA specifications of 1960

 

The competition

 

Major Rice kept pushing for this idea with enthusiasm and after a while managed to get lead of the project for a light Armed Reconnaissance Aircraft, or LARA. At first the army and USMC where trying to develop a replacement for the OV-1 "Mohawk" airplane, though later the USAF expressed interest in a plane for Forward Air Control (FAC) duties. the Navy had no interest in such a LARA airplane but agreed to be the procuring and development agency.

In the last quarter of 1963 the Navy then put out the proposal of this plane to 22 aircraft manufacturers for the LARA/COIN role. It needed to land on rough terrain, carry four 500 pound bombs, utilize 2 turboprop engines and house the crew in a tandem cockpit. The RFP then added a requirement to carry 2000 pounds of cargo in a cargo bay (or alternatively 6 soldiers or 2 stretchers for MEDVAC) and utilize floats to land on water. At least 10 designs from the major aircraft manufacturers where submitted. manufacturers like:
1) Beech
2) Douglas
3) Convair
4) Goodyear
5) Grumman
6) Helio
7) Hiller
8) Lockheed
9) Martin
10) North American
 

All designs used either Pratt Whitney T74 or Garrett T76 power plants. Some but not all of the L²VMA specifications found their way into LARA/COIN designs. Of the ten proposals, four used the L2VMA model configuration of twin booms supporting a high tail that would accommodate a recoilless rifle on the aircraft centerline. However other L²VMA features were ignored. In the RFP addition a short wing of 20ft was asked for; short enough to operate from tree lined roads. No competitor was offering a 20 foot wingspan so unprepared road use was out of the question.
However, rough field operation was still a requirement which added 1000 pounds to the design gross weight. The addition of Air Force FAC requirements added another 1000 pounds of avionics and communication equipment. LARA/COIN designs were almost twice as large and heavy as envisioned in the L2VMA specification and had additional complexity such as instruments for bad weather flying and ejection seats. Major Rice had been warned by a senior Department of the Navy Research and Development official that working within the system was bound to greatly add to the complexity of the result. But at least now through LARA/COIN, L2VMA had a chance to be built.

The winner of the design competition was North American Aviation, Columbus Division who was contracted to build nine prototypes. The North American Model 300, the YOV-10A Bronco was going on to a Tri-Service Evaluation. The multi-service evaluation concept was formed by K.P. Rice and W.H. Beckett when they encouraged the formation of the ASEG, the All Service Evaluation Group. The ASEG had been prepared for LARA flight testing by being exposed to various airplane types and capabilities that included some time spent studying low level flight under the instruction of crop dusters.

 

The YOV-10A and its mockup

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Initial concept of the YOV-10A and its appearance in the Aviation Week magazine of 1965


The first mockup of the OV-10 was build made of various materials including aluminum, fiberglass, wood, and steel. This mockup was the first physical manifestation of the basic OV-10 design. A mockup on a major program may have several purposes. Some of these are

  1. Design Proof of Concept,
  2. Support of Detailed Design,
  3. Human Factors Evaluation, and
  4. Public Relations Support.

In the public relations arena, the OV-10 mockup was a star having been selected to grace the cover of Aviation Week & Space Technology the week of February 8, 1965. The accompanying article indicates that this mockup was one of the most detailed ever constructed by North American. By the time the mock up was revealed in early 1965 it had been reviewed together with the OV-10 design by a Department of Defense board.
just a few minor changes later the YOV-10A had its first flight in 16 July, 1965 at Columbus, OH by aircraft number 1, two months ahead of the program schedule first flight date.

 

6 prototypes and some changes made to the original design later (namely increase the wingspan from 30 to 40ft and angling the armament stations down) the final design got named OV-10A:
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The OV-10 in Combat:

a summary of the combat mission types flown by OV-10s and its use in the 3 branches USMC, USN, USAF:
 

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The Vietnam War

 

The OV-10 build was designed with the vietnam war in mind based on a project dating further back for the USMC:
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OV-10s of each branch and the deployment areas of the OV-10 operating groups

Service in the USMC:

the USMC used their broncos in all different roles.
they usually had 2 crew in the plane, most of the time the pilot in the front and a AO (Aerial observer) in the backseat, the AO was usually an artillery men there to bring arttilery fire on target using the radios of the OV-10. he was in constant contact with both ground troops and the pilot.

FAC:
armed with 70mm WP rockets, and sometimes HE rockets in addition they marked targets for the bigger airplanes.
and gave direct visual support to soldiers on the ground.

FO:
this is why the AO was needed. he directed artiller batteries on target in the FO or Forward observer role of the OV-10, these where quite succesfull.

CAS:
ofc, one of the main missions of an light attacker, providing direct air support for the troops on the ground.
using all the armament options aviable to the corps, rockets, guns, bombs etc..

Transport:
using the capability to load 3200lbs in the cargo door, the USMC used the OV-10s to transport and drop all different things in the area.
even droping USMC soldiers with parachutes (up to 6 fit in the back)

 

Night Observation Gunships:

This was a completely new role based on a new version of the OV-10, called the YOV-10D.

this plane featured a FLIR system and new armament pylons, it also had a 20mm gun turret under its belly that could be turned by the rear observer.

it also got stronger engines and the FLIR pod in the nose had a laser designator.

 

These planes later got send to USN squadrons for testing in South vietnam in the mekkong river delta.

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YOV-10Dof the USMC loaded with 70mm FFAR and 127mm Zuni Rockets and the M97 20mm Gun turret.


USMC squadrons that used the OV-10 where:
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Service in the USAF:

the USAF primarily used the OV-10 as FAC aircraft, later on to mark targets for laser guided bombs.

FAC:
similar to the USMC the USAF marked the target with a WP (white phosphor) rocket and guided heavy CAS planes in for a run.

CAS:
while doing FAC the OV-10s later carried 2 pods with 70mm HE rockets to have a quicker response time than having to wait for a jet to arrive.

Pave Nail or "Nail":
specially retrofited OV-10s marked targets with laser for the first laser guided bombs droped by special F-4 phantoms.

USAF squadrons where:
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Service in the USN:

in the USN the OV-10 propably earned most of its fame as dedicated CAS plane for the Brown water navy in the south of vietnam.
heavily loaded with 5" zunis and more these planes where allways armed to the teeth and later on supported everybody who needed help by them.

the squadron that used them was the VAL-4 "Black ponies" more to them comes here (its from a post I wrote earlier):

 

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The VAL-4 "Black Ponies" was an US Navy light attack squadron durin the vietnam war, the squadron was stationed in the Binh Thuy and Vung tau area and guarded the mekong delta to support the Brown Water Navy.

the squadron operated OV-10 Broncos and had at the end of the war about 18 planes of this type. (more than they officially got, thats why they allways had to explain where the other planes came from)

the pilots usually had 3 different missions:

  • "free patrol" loaded with lighter armament the planes flew along the deltas and attacked targets of oportunity.
  • "escort" loaded with different rockets and atleast 1 fuel tank to guard friendly units up to 5hrs per flight.
  • "scramble" 2 planes with 4 pilots where on ready all the time to do an scramble in the case when friendly units needed support

The squadron mostly used armaments loaded with rockets (5" Zuni where the prefered choice here) and to the end of the war they where the first to drop CBU-55 cluster bombs.
Squadrons with OV-10s where the ONLY squadrons allowed to attack freely ground units without an forward observer.
during the war.
VAL-4 flew the most sorties (about 20000) of the USN as a squadron and they fired close to 35000 5" Zuni rokets in 1970 alone!

 

the badges they used:
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Overall the plane was liked by all 3 branches for its versatility and performance in the Vietnam war.

 

 

 

After Vietnam:

 

New OV-10 models.

After the Vietnam war the OV-10 was still being used, however many of the old squadrons where removed.

The vietnam war teached the useres of this aircraft important lessons, one of which is that the 700hp engines often where to weak to help climbing over obstacles, and another lesson was that the YOV-10D was a great succes.

this lead to the new OV-10D model:

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OV-10D bronco of the USMC

 

The OV-10D is pretty much identical to the YOV-10D (well, the YOV-10D was its prototype) one thing that was added was flare launchers and later they even added IR dazzlers against IR missiles.

a later upgrade to the OV-10D, called OV-10D+ was a improvement in avionics.

 

In Combat

 

Desert Storm

The Next war with US influence was the gulf war and Desert Storm USMC OV-10D flew important FAC missions to mark targets for laser guided bombs and find enemy troops.

these also where the last american OV-10 losses. these losses where mainly ue to the low speed of the aircraft and the lack of effective electronic countermeasures (ECM).

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OV-10A and D Bronco during Desert Storm.

 

 

Combat Dragon II

Just like the First time the OV-10 was evaluated (Combat Dragon) the Bronco was evaluated again as a ight COIN aircraft in 2015 by the USN

These 2 OV-10 Broncos where OV-10G+ (vastly upgraded OV-10D+) and they flew over 120 missions over Iraq and proved themself as extremely potent against insurgency groups like ISIS.

Their Normal mission was to attack enemy troops using 70mm laser guided rockets (APKWS) at long range during the night

more info on this test: https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/imminent-fury.htm

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OV-10G+ with the old markings of VAL-4 in Iraq

 

 

Non US usage

 

Obviously the USA was not the Only nation that used the OV-10 bronco, often in a COIN role:

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Colombia

In 1991, the USAF provided the Colombian Air Force with 12 OV-10As. Later, three ex-USMC A-models were also acquired to provide parts support. Colombia operates the aircraft in a COIN role against an active insurgency. At least one aircraft has been lost in combat.The remaining OV-10As were upgraded to OV-10D standard. In November 2015, and after 24 years of service, the Colombian Air Force retired all of its remaining OV-10 aircraft

 

Indonesia

Indonesia purchased 12 OV-10F aircraft and operates them in COIN operations similar to the U.S. Navy's Vietnam missions with their Broncos, but have retrofitted .50 in (12.7 mm) Browning heavy machine guns in place of the .308 in (7.62 mm) machine guns.These aircraft were based in Lanud Abdulrachman Saleh Air Force Base in Malang, East Java and were vital in the invasion of East Timor and ensuing COIN operations. In 1977, they were also used during the aerial bombardments of Amungme villages near Freeport-McMoRan area of operations, West Papua, in response to OPM attacks on the mining company facilities, and of Dani villages in Baliem Valley, also in West Papua, in response to rebellion against enforced participation in the Indonesian general election.Due to the lack of U.S. bombs, the Indonesian Air Force modified the bomb racks to carry Russian bombs. The Indonesian Air Force plans to replace their OV-10Fs with EMBRAER Super Tucanos following a fatal accident on the 23 July 2013.

 

Morocco

The Royal Moroccan Air Force acquired six former-U.S. Marine Corps OV-10As in 1981. Based in Marrakesh Menara Airport, these were employed in counter-insurgency operations against Polisario forces in the Western Sahara War using rocket pods and gun pods. One was shot down in 1985.

 

Philippines

 

The Philippine Air Force (PAF) received 24 OV-10As from U.S. stocks in 1991, later followed by a further nine from the United States, and eight ex-Thai Air Force OV-10Cs in 2003–2004.The OV-10s are operated by the 16th Attack Squadron and 25th Composite Attack Squadron of the 15th Strike Wing, based in Sangley Point, Cavite. The PAF flies Broncos on search-and-rescue and COIN operations in various parts of the Philippines. The first two women combat pilots in the PAF flew OV-10s with the 16th. This squadron flew anti-terrorist operations in the Jolo Islands.

PAF OV-10 Broncos have been repeatedly used in air strikes against Moro Islamic Liberation Front positions during ongoing fighting in 2011,and two were used in an air strike on February 2012 which resulted in the death of three Abu Sayyaf and Jemaah Islamiyah commanders, among others. Philippine Air Force OV-10s have been reportedly modified in order to employ modern smart bombs.[39][40]

On 1 June 2017, the PAF OV-10s dropped bombs on Maute group positions during the Battle of Marawi.

The OV-10s will be eventually replaced by the Embraer EMB 314 Super Tucano.

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PAF OV-10 Broncos

Thailand

 

The Royal Thai Air Force purchased 32 new OV-10C aircraft in the early 1970s for COIN usage.[34] Reportedly Broncos won most Thai bombing competitions until F-5Es became operational. At one time The RTAF flew OV-10s as air-defense aircraft.[34] In 2004, RTAF donated most of the OV-10s to the Philippines.[34] Three OV-10 survivors are displayed, one at the Tango Squadron Wing 41 Museum in Chiang Mai, the RTAF Museum in Bangkok, and a static display at the main gate of Wing 5 in Prachuap Khiri Khan. The remaining OV-10s will be donated to the PAF in 2011.

 

Venezuela

The Venezuelan Air Force has operated a number of new build OV-10Es and ex-USAF OV-10As over the years. On 27 November 1992, the aircraft were widely used by mutinous officers who staged an attempted coup d'état against former President Carlos Andrés Pérez. The rebels dropped bombs and launched rockets against police and government buildings in Caracas. Four Broncos were lost during the uprising, including two shot down by a loyalist General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon.[42]

Venezuela's OV-10s are to be retired in the coming years. Originally Venezuela attempted to procure Embraer Super Tucano aircraft to replace the OV-10, but no deal was achieved which President Chavez claimed was due to the result of pressure from the U.S. government.

 

 

 

 

 

(All info from Wikipedia)

 

 

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PAF OV-10 in formation, the PAF remains one of the largest users of this aircraft today.

 

 

The OV-10 and its characteristics:

How does it perform? well look down below and see what this aircraft is capable of:

 

 

Spoiler

 

The OV-10 was a very succesfull aircraft, it mostly served in vietnam and is still in use today in some south american and asian nations. (the Philippines are one of their widest users today) The bronco was even used in 2016 against the IS in a test for a evaluation of cheap attack planes.
its ability to use rough runways, to be easy to maintain and the high maneuverability makes this aircraft the perfect plane for light COIN operations. But it doesn't stop there, it also is able to carry up to 3200LBs in its cargo bay and deliver a deadly firepower to its enemy ranging from 4x 7.62mm M60 machine guns over to all different kinds of ground ordnance on 5 pylons under the fuselage.
The crew has a extremely good all around visibility and pilots reported that the plane is easy and fun to fly.

 

 

OV-10A

 

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the cockpit of the OV-10 and its instrumentation

 


General characteristics

  • Crew: two
  • Length: 41 ft 7 in (12.67 m)
  • Wingspan: 40 ft 0 in (12.19 m)
  • Height: 15 ft 2 in (4.62 m)
  • Wing area: 290.95 ft² (27.03 m²)
  • Empty weight: 6,893 lb (3,127 kg)
  • Clean Take-Off Weight: 9630 lbs (4,368kg)
  • Max. takeoff weight: 14,444 lb (6,552 kg)
  • Powerplant: 2 × Garrett T76-G-410/412 turboprop, 715 hp (533 kW) each

 

Performance

  • Take-Off Minimum Speed: 85 kts (157 km/h) with 20° flaps 10,000 lb gross weight
  • Maximum speed: 244 kts (452 km/h)
  • Normal Cruise: 180 kts (333 km/h)
  • Range: 576 mi (927 km)
  • Cruise Fuel Consumption: 600 lbs/hr
  • Service ceiling: 24,000 ft (7,315 m)
  • Maneuver Loading: +8 to -2 ½ Gs
  • Minimum turning radius: 500ft (152m)

 

Armament

Guns: 4 × 7.62×51mm M60C machine guns

Hardpoints: 5 fuselage and 2 underwing with a maximum weight of 2,645 lbs (1200kg)

 

possible armament configurations are:
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the Wing stations could also hold 7 shot 70mm FFAR pods or 2 shot ZUNI pods as alternative to the sidewinder.

 

 

 

OV-10D

General characteristics

  • Crew: two
  • Length: 44 ft 0 in (13.41 m)
  • Wingspan: 40 ft 0 in (12.19 m)
  • Height: 15 ft 2 in (4.62 m)
  • Wing area: 290.95 ft² (27.03 m²)
  • Empty weight: 6,893 lb (3,127 kg)
  • Clean Take-Off Weight: 9630 lbs (4,368kg)
  • Max. takeoff weight: 14,444 lb (6,552 kg)
  • Powerplant: 2 × Garrett T76-G-410/412 turboprop, 715 hp (533 kW) each

 

Performance

  • Take-Off Minimum Speed: 85 kts (157 km/h) with 20° flaps 10,000 lb gross weight
  • Maximum speed: 250 kts (463 km/h)
  • Normal Cruise: 180 kts (333 km/h)
  • Range: 1,382 mi (2,224 km)
  • Cruise Fuel Consumption: 600 lbs/hr
  • Service ceiling: 30,000 ft (9,159 m)
  • Maneuver Loading: +8 to -2 ½ Gs
  • Minimum turning radius: 800ft (244m)

 

Armament

Guns: 1 × 20 mm (0.79 in) M197 cannon (YOV-10D) or 4 × 7.62×51 mm M60C machine guns (OV-10D/D+)

Hardpoints: 5 fuselage and 2 underwing with a maximum weight of 2,645 lbs (1200kg)

 

Armament Options:

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In depth info OV-10D:

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Performance

 

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layouts

 

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Cockpits

 

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FLIR

 

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Data link

 

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Survival on the battlefield

 

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Gun turrets

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pictures and eye candy:

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USN VAL-4 "black pony" OV-10 during loading of its 20mm MK.4 gunpod
additional it holds 12x 5" Zuni rockets.

 

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VAL-4 OV-10 with 20x 5" Zuni rockets, yes you read right, these are 20 FIVE (5) Inch rockets on this light attacker.

 

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USMC OV-10 with CBU-55 cluster bombs
the CBU-55 is a 500lbs fuel air bomb that creates a shockwave as powerfull as a 2000lbs bomb

 

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USN VAL-4 OV-10 in Vietnam

 

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OV-10 firing a 5" Zuni rocket

 

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paratrooper sitting in the back of the OV-10, note: the rear door is removed from it during such operations.

 

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formation of OV-10s.
you can see the smoke generator in the left engine is activated.
it is used to give friendly aircraft visual help in the FAC role of the OV-10

 

Some art:
 

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Sources and more information:

 

 

 

I hope you enjoyed the read, tell me what you think of this plane in the comments below, I personally find its a fantastic and unique aircraft.
 

 

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I think someone did a user model for this. It looks like it would be a cool addition. I have no idea what br you would even want to give it though. It's slow but it has a crazy collection of weapons for that size and performance.

 

This and the A-37 would be great.

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1 minute ago, PickleJarOfDeath said:

I think someone did a user model for this. It looks like it would be a cool addition. I have no idea what br you would even want to give it though. It's slow but it has a crazy collection of weapons for that size and performance.

 

This and the A-37 would be great.

I would give it a Br around 5.0-5.7  its slow, but very agile (150m turning circle, that is tighter than the zero can turn from what I see)

and yes, @NovA29R made a model, but never finished it as of now with, because of low interest by gaijin.
here is a screenshot of this model:

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I actually helped him to find all data he needed of this plane, and the skin you see is done by me.
He used some unhistorical skin before that I didnt like :P so I made him a VAL-4 skin from 1970
based on this: (lower one)
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more info on missions flown by VAL-4:
https://live.warthunder.com/post/575444/en/

 

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On my short wish list!

 

Pity it is well outside of end date, but would not be OP in game, I guess R4 because no way can catch a fast prop but for ground work it will be killer... maybe R5

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1 minute ago, Pony51 said:

On my short wish list!

 

Pity it is well outside of end date, but would not be OP in game, I guess R4 because no way can catch a fast prop but for ground work it will be killer... maybe R5

the date is not an issue anymore :P

the cutoff date got removed quite some time ago, its not tech limitations.
the OV-10 fits well into these limits.

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I do like these planes. They are unique and had a very specific type of mission and are kinda a stepping stone from post ww2/Korea and the F15/A10 planes and combat roles used today (very broad generalization).

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On 19.10.2017 at 12:11 AM, ChuckYeahgurrr said:

I do like these planes. They are unique and had a very specific type of mission and are kinda a stepping stone from post ww2/Korea and the F15/A10 planes and combat roles used today (very broad generalization).

 

Indeed. 

It is a really good and interesting plane to have in any flight sum.

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On 28.12.2017 at 8:59 PM, SkyEye said:

Im still waiting eagerly for this plane to be released.

It looks good. NovA29R started his work on the OV-10A again. I send him like 300+ photos of it XD

So he can work on details and the cockpit. 

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I never realized how underpowered this plane is.

1600HP for about 16'000lb loaded. Maybe WEP / take-off can do a bit better.

 

AD-2 is at 2500HP for 20'000lb, and that doesn't make it great for acceleration .

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19 hours ago, Rapitor said:

I never realized how underpowered this plane is.

1600HP for about 16'000lb loaded. Maybe WEP / take-off can do a bit better.

 

AD-2 is at 2500HP for 20'000lb, and that doesn't make it great for acceleration .

 

The Bronco is turboprop, so no WEP.

 

I'm seeing max takeoff weight for the Bronco as 14,444lb (6,552kg) with ~1,400SHP, and ~2,000SHP for the D-model. ROC for all but the D I'm seeing 13.2m/s which isn't bad.

 

Interesting website here, by the way:

 

http://www.ov-10bronco.net/technical.cfm

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15 minutes ago, xF4LC0NxPUNCHx said:

The Bronco is turboprop, so no WEP.

Could you explain to me why would turboprop be a reason for no WEP?

I'm genuinely curious, as my understanding for military and WEP setting is simply a matter of nomenclature. One can be held longer than the other, and delivers more power, but both are past 'normal' rating.

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35 minutes ago, Rapitor said:

Could you explain to me why would turboprop be a reason for no WEP?

I'm genuinely curious, as my understanding for military and WEP setting is simply a matter of nomenclature. One can be held longer than the other, and delivers more power, but both are past 'normal' rating.

 

You know, that's a very good point, and I think I may have to retract my statement. In my mind I usually associate WEP with some sort of increase of boost and/or injection, rather than simply "greater than 100% maximum continuous power" which is what it actually is.

 

A lot of aircraft already in game that use jet engines effectively have a WEP setting already, no reason the Bronco couldn't too.

 

The only turboprop in game currently is the Wyvern, right? Does it have a WEP setting? I can't check right now myself.

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42 minutes ago, xF4LC0NxPUNCHx said:

"greater than 100% maximum continuous power

About this, for the neophyte, I'd like to clarify something.

 

Max continuous power (aka 'normal' mode), is generally between 75 to 95% of the throttle setting.

100% is NOT the max continuous, and by no mean one should consider as granted the ability to perma 100% with a plane.

 

100% is 'military', I.e extra power to save your life. It's supposedly the max power to draw from the engine without significant effect on the engine life.

WEP is generally 'combat' (and or sometime 'take-off' (when available) which is more extra power to save your life even more when the engine can take it. You'd rather refurbish and engine than get a new plane + pilot because the enemy shot you down.

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with lower fuel you can expect a weight of about 10 - 12,000lbs
the plane become quite a bit more responsive and powerfull.

Skyraider (9017kg | 2500hp) = 275hp/t
OV-10 on lower fuel (4989kg | 1430hp) = 286hp/t

 

so its about equal to the skyraider and that is still not fully striped from its weight, I think we can decrease the fuel even more or load less armament on it to increase performance.
also remember that the OV-10 is extremely agile.

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1 hour ago, *BATTLEIRON13 said:

Won’t be useful with the new radar anti air 

you could snipe them with Zunis, with 770 m/s velocity,little drop, and explosive content greater then the S21's( and a little lower then Tiny tims) on its GP warhead they'd be great for tank busting. they'd also be very accurate 

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On 24.3.2018 at 12:42 AM, *BATTLEIRON13 said:

Won’t be useful with the new radar anti air 

ehm, it won't be at that BR to see the top tier SPAA ;-)
also its agility and armament will be able to counter these threats

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