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Germans will have to fight harder next patch!

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The 109F4 is getting nerfed hard in the speed departement It's 30km/h slower at low alt.

G2 will be 20km/h slower than right now on low alt.

G6 will be about 10km/h faster at low alt.

G10 will be about 13km/h slower than currently at low alt.

K4 will be about 28km/h slower at low alt than currently.

 

 

So all in all there will only be one german prop plane faster than a British Tempest and that is the D13 Dora (maybe the D12 aswell)

 

The Typhoons will catch All Bf109's exept for the K4 version.

 

The Spitfire mk9 will catch a 109F4

 

the P51-D is now faster than all BF109's even at low alt compared to only high alt like before.

Also the Kingcobra will be faster than all BF109's exept for the K4.

 

Well I guess German players will have to learn how to pull defensive manuvers since simply outrunning the allies wont work anymore.

 

Atleast my new favorite plane was not touched the FW190 A-5 which suits me nicely.

 

"note these numbers are only estimated and might not be entirely correct it is simply what the new FM list says compared to jjonas in-game flight testing"

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only if the allied players make use of the changes, if they continue to load up bombs and make the AA the top priority not a lot will change, just as the Germans lose now when you see 109's with bombs going for first strike against AA and tanks, and nearly all fighters are lower in alt than the bombers

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Oh darn, a level playing field.

 i guess thats the goal, but didnt we finally get them buffed last patch now they are tuning it again... is it really that uneven?? i love my 109s yes clearly by my Sig, but i can get in my yaks and do the same stuff and they arent getting nerfed... just my 2 cents

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Top speed is nothing, german will still be faster due to better energy rotation (if played right) and accelerate faster as well, they also dive much better than most allied planes and can maintain very high dive speed.

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Typhoon caught my He 162 some days ago. After I dove. He just kept up with me at around 900kph and shot me down. Gaijin pls nerf.

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There was a thread on the forums about FM changes in next patch in the dev server section. By trojan btw.

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Who's taking bets for the next OP threads?

 

the seagulls, they're bloody OP with all their poo! they one-shot wings and pilots!

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speed was never an issue with Germans its the Fked up hit box on all the 109's, and there overpowered single cannon. when one 20mm cannon can do the work of 4 compared to other nations you have a problem.

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the seagulls, they're bloody OP with all their poo! they one-shot wings and pilots!

:secret: Don't tell them about the seagulls.

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Who's taking bets for the next OP threads?

Hmmm, probably the typhoon, tempest, or spit mk IX since hispano's will now do more damage (hopefully) and they can outrun 109's at low alt.

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Hmmm, probably the typhoon, tempest, or spit mk IX since hispano's will now do more damage (hopefully) and they can outrun 109's at low alt.

Sounds like a good time to work on my Brit line lol.

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Japan OP.

The Imperial army will always be OP my friend. :kamikadze:  They even got their own emote. Forum OPness!

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109 F-4 is 10kmh slower in 1.31 according to the dm thread.

109 G-2 is 5kmh faster, G-10 is same, K-4(without engine upgrade is 590kmh in 1.29) new patch is 585 kmh.

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Hmmm, probably the typhoon, tempest, or spit mk IX since hispano's will now do more damage (hopefully) and they can outrun 109's at low alt.

 

 

Typhoon caught my He 162 some days ago. After I dove. He just kept up with me at around 900kph and shot me down. Gaijin pls nerf.

Do I win  :lol:

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The Imperial army will always be OP my friend. :kamikadze:  They even got their own emote. Forum OPness!

Lol yes!

 

Back in Midway I don't even want to say how many mentally-handicapped F4u's, p-51's and p47s I watched try to turn with Zeros and Ki 43s, loose, then complain in the chat that they're OP.  

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if most allied players continue to mow the lawns even these nerfs wont do much. I hate to see more Ze Germans are OP threads after this patch.

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The 109F4 is getting nerfed hard in the speed departement It's 30km/h slower at low alt.

G2 will be 20km/h slower than right now on low alt.

G6 will be about 10km/h faster at low alt.

G10 will be about 13km/h slower than currently at low alt.

K4 will be about 28km/h slower at low alt than currently.

 

 

So all in all there will only be one german prop plane faster than a British Tempest and that is the D13 Dora (maybe the D12 aswell)

 

The Typhoons will catch All Bf109's exept for the K4 version.

 

The Spitfire mk9 will catch a 109F4

 

the P51-D is now faster than all BF109's even at low alt compared to only high alt like before.

Also the Kingcobra will be faster than all BF109's exept for the K4.

 

Well I guess German players will have to learn how to pull defensive manuvers since simply outrunning the allies wont work anymore.

 

Atleast my new favorite plane was not touched the FW190 A-5 which suits me nicely.

 

"note these numbers are only estimated and might not be entirely correct it is simply what the new FM list says compared to jjonas in-game flight testing"

 

 

109's got tweaked not nerf'd.   I don't recall seeing a 109 cutting grass does anyone else?


These changes are not going to be as game breaking as the OP claims.    People are still going to get steamrolled by D13's until they learn to fly.

 

Also they tweaked other things to make 109's more stable.  To quote my quote "109's feel less sluggish"  which implies increased responsiveness/stability/speed/maneuverability.   Which aspect I don't know yet.

 

In short:  Very little has changed.

 

The P-63A-10 will be beast and I even say a direct contender to the D12's and D13's.

 

 

German FM changes:
 
109 changes
 
109E-3 109F-4 109G-6 109G-10 109K-4
 
Moment Of Inertia changed
Spin and loss characteristics changed
Wing-profile recalculated, Lift and drag corrected due core code changes
 
With this update the 109s feeling a bit less sluggish, more stability overall
 
 
109E3: tuned to have this performance:
Max speed: 470 km/h at SL, 570 km/h at 5000m
Max climb rate: 16.75 m/sec
Virage time at 1000m: 19.75 sec
 
109F4: tuned to have this performance:
Max speed: 530 km/h at SL, 660 km/h at 6200m
Max climb rate: 18.00 m/sec
Virage time at 1000m: 20.00 sec
 
109G2: tuned to have this performance:
Max speed: 550 km/h at SL, 665 km/h at 6000m
Max climb rate: 22.00 m/sec
Virage time at 1000m: 22.00 sec
 
109G6: tuned to have this performance:
Max speed: 550 km/h at SL, 531 km/h at 6000m
Max climb rate: 18.75 m/sec
Virage time at 1000m: 23.75 sec
 
109G10: tuned to have this performance:
Max speed: 560 km/h at SL, 680 km/h at 7300m
Max climb rate: 21.75 m/sec
Virage time at 1000m: 22.75 sec
 
109K4: tuned to have this performance:
Max speed: 585 km/h at SL, 715 km/h at 7500m
Max climb rate: 24.00 m/sec
Virage time at 1000m: 21.75 sec

 

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Who's taking bets for the next OP threads?

 

D-13 I'll put nothing on the line though... :P

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Basically what I read about this update is... 109F pilots will migrate to 109G-2's  because it appears they gave G2's what the F4 is now.   G2's when I last played were absolute dog shit.

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