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[0058184] TBF Avenger Gunner range of movement


  1. The full name of the vehicle affected: TBF-1c Avenger / Avenger Mk. II in all modes
  2. A detailed description of the issue:. The Grumman 150SE actually could be depressed 30°, which isnt the case in the game.
  3. A detailed description of the fix you suggest. Provide sources including reference that underline your position. This is up to the discretion of the Technical Moderator handling the report, however the number of sources required depends on the type of source presented:
  • User Manual / Repair Manual / Factory Manual etc - Historically acknowledged reference sources - single source required. Aircrewman´s Gunnery Manual Navy Edition from 1944.
  • Please ensure the references have:  Report/Document Type, Report/Document Name, Author, Date, ISBN/ISSN, relevant Pg No's etc
  • Please provide scans of all pages referenced and a scan of the front cover of publication/book.
  • For Web sources. Please provide the link to the actual relevant section, or document.  If this is not possible and only higher links can be referenced then please provide page or title information to locate the relevant reference.
  • Photographs need to be fully referenced.

 

 

https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/ref/AirGunnery/TURRETS.html#T19

 

pT20-3.jpg Grumman 150 SE

pT20-1.jpg pT20-2.jpg

 

The turret firing mechanic was stopped by stoppers when it would have shot at the plane itself. but since the single machine gun is offset and it can shoot down, it should have been able to shoot down and behind the plane quite a bit.

 

i sadly couldnt find a single photo to prove this, since every photo i find is in stowing position (0°)

 

Also same source provided here on p. 206ff http://www.avialogs.com/en/army-manuals-and-guides/usa/us-navy/navaer-oo-80s-40-usn-aircrewman-s-gunnery-manual.html

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Thank you for your report.

 

Some added details desire:

In game screen shots or video of the limits of gun arc.

 

Both sources you link are actually the same original manual.

It will be helpful if you can find another source.

 

Once you add the screen shots I will post.

 

Thanks

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i know its the same source, but its a historical manual, not like you can find lots on sources on that, as i said, i cant even find photos of one depressed :<

 

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lowest it can shoot

 

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below the lowest.

 

the only thing i can see after hours and hours of viewing material it being depressed on is this mock up of the prototype.:

 

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and clearly the turret had the opening so it would be physically possible.

 

pT19-1.jpg

 

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Thanks!

 

Will file sometime today

 

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0058184 tracking number assigned and report forwarded to forwarded to the developers.

Thank you for your help improving the game.  

 

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