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So you spent your hard to earn $€£¥₺₩hatever to get some Gold Eagles.

Now what to spend them on (not doing any good sitting there)?

 

From a CASUAL / Part time gamers experience (2 days a week, 4 to 8 hours total)

 

First off: keep some GE in bank for specials, never know what GJ does. :)

Also in case you must have some extra Silver Lion cash for urgent purchase.

 

1. My top choice to spend GE on (if you are GE rich) are Premium Units.

Value of Premiums vary, but no matter what you choose the bonuses of a Premiums make then all worth getting.

Some of my favorite units (but not all of them!! Some did not use enough to judge) are:

PBY-5a in UK and USSR

TBM in UK

F6F in UK

I-153P

H8K3

P-47 in Ger and USSR

Spit IX in USA

BV 238

Fw 190 in Japan

B-17 in Japan
T-34-100

T-44

(again, did not evaluate all of them, these are ones I have used enough to give opinion)

 

2. CrewXP purchase.

Trained crew = winning more often.

A fresh crew (0 for any skills) is an incredible disadvantage!   Worse is getting those XP takes forever with each upgrade costing about 5x more!  

Spend 10, even 100 GE to accelerate training and get the edge over others, it makes a huge advantage for your tactics.

The fact the training works for all vehicles assigned that crew and a permanent bonus, make this a great investment.

 

3. Purchasing Talisman.  

Like a Premium unit, it will give you Research Point (RP) bonus, but thats is.

One must be careful choosing which unit to Talisman, they need to be a one you are successful with or love to play.  Otherwise the Talisman would be wasted investment.

Talisman is a permanent bonus, so its always ready when using that unit which why a great investment (if you use it!)

 

4. Buying unit modules, but only to finish the Modules!

1 GE=433SL with best GE/SL exchange rate.  

A module on a Rank 4 cost over 3000SL, rank 5 over 10,000SL  If it takes only 9 GE to finish, you save lots of SL spending a few GE!

If you are really lucky and have a Jet module (20,000SL typical) and need 1 GE to buy, now the exchange rate is 1GE = 20,000SL!

NOTE: Not worth expense with Rank 1 and 2.  Starts being useful with Rank 3 and up.

 

4.5. SL Exchange during specials or emergency.

During the 50% sales I often spend all my SL buying units, especially when it is rank 4 and up (usually spend 5 to 10 million SL during sales).  Crews and Training can rapidly drain your SL account too (I do not have free time to earn millions of SL like some I know).

And then there are bad days and you keep loosing games and might run out of SL.  In this case, spend enough GE to get you back in.

 

Dubious Investment:

1.  Premium Account Time:  

This is a temporary advantage.  If you spend GE but cant play, the GE is lost.  So make sure you have to the time to take advantage of Premium time before buying.  It is low for the temporary nature, but is certainly great when things go your way time wise.

On the other hand, if you can regularly spend at least 10 hours a week, then Premium time will pay off.

 

2. Camouflage (bushes) for tanks:

Camouflage does not work in Arcade since the game reveals your location anyway.  It is also not that big of advantage in RB and SB because the only moving bush is you!  Trees don't move unless knocked down, so again a moving bush is target (but works great if you found a great ambush spot).

 

 

Just for fun!

Nothing wrong buying skins, decals, and decorations for fun.  May not give you any advntage, but its OK to let loose your crazy side!

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nice list, but..

where is russian Hampden, Havok, soviet hurricane and p40, Tbolts (Ger and Ru) hudson shoki and e7?

IMHO those planes are insane 

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51 minutes ago, Pony51 said:

Nothing wrong buying skins, decals, and decorations for fun.  May not give you any advntage,

LIE!

good skin is +10 to skill

also strawberry looks soooo pretty)))

(we need more skins tho)

53 minutes ago, Pony51 said:

First off: keep some GE in bank for specials

yeah, especially when u get a discount 50-75% )))

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Funny, I was thinking of this vary topic yesterday.  My list vastly differs from yours.

 

1st, I've spent GEs on almost everything in the game.  Premium accts, Premium planes, Ace Crews, Speed Crew training, crew slots, back-ups and Modules.  I don't believe I've ever purchased a Talisman.

 

 

My opinion now is that don't buy anything with GEs that you can grind and only buy things with GE that you can't. 

 

-- The number one best investment, IMHO, is premium acct if one plays 3~4+ times a week.  For someone who plays almost everyday like me, its a no brainer.  Everything you fly or drive along with their crews, benefits.  I have several free aces due to having premium acct for a few years now.

 

-- Second best investment would be a T4 premium or a T3 premium that hasn't or will mostly be able to get in war bonds.  Also better than premium acct if you play rather sporadic. 

 

-- Third best would be crew slots.  I don't tend to use more than a few crew slots in one game unless I'm trying a certain task for War bonds.  Then having 8 + slots gives me the flexibility to load up with multiple types of air craft(2/3 bombers, 2/3 fighters, 2/3 attackers) to get the job done. 

 

I wouldn't purchase anything else with GEs as I can grind them

 

-- Back-ups  please, I purchased 1 back up when I didn't know better my 1st day.  Now I have multiple back-ups from after battle rewards. 

-- Crew training  Nope, my air crews are almost maxed now and tank crews very close.  And with premium acct, it doesn't take long to get them to being competitive. (about a lvl 3 or more + expert)

-- Low Tier premiums  Nope 1st, many will be available for war bonds, second, one will grind past their effectiveness very quickly.  I would say buying a few at 50% is ok if you want to have it, you have nothing left to buy, and they will not be in the war bond shop likely.  (I-153P anyone?)

-- Modules  never again.  Just grind it baby.  with premium account, unless we are talking about T5, it doesn't take long.  But I would agree with the OP, spending a few GEs to buy expensive modules might be fine if you have a SL problem.  Something I never have. 

--Talisman  nah, I never play a vehicle that much anyways and besides, again, I have plenty of them from after battle rewards. 

 

 

 

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21 minutes ago, LuftMaus said:

nice list, but..

where is russian Hampden, Havok, soviet hurricane and p40, Tbolts (Ger and Ru) hudson shoki and e7?

IMHO those planes are insane 

)))

LIE!

good skin is +10 to skill

also strawberry looks soooo pretty)))

(we need more skins tho)

yeah, especially when u get a discount 50-75% )))

 

Like I said, did not evaluate all.

 

I forgot about some camo bonus.... is there a camo skill bonus??  Been years since I heard about that.

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24 minutes ago, Cpt_Sum_TingWong said:

... don't buy anything with GEs that you can grind and only buy things with GE that you can't.

 

-- The number one best investment ... is [a] premium acct if one plays 3~4+ times a week. ...

 

-- Second best investment would be a T4 premium or a T3 premium ... better than [a] premium acct if you play rather sporadic[ally].

 

^This.

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On 5/12/2017 at 5:07 PM, Cpt_Sum_TingWong said:

Funny, I was thinking of this vary topic yesterday.  My list vastly differs from yours.

 

1st, I've spent GEs on almost everything in the game.  Premium accts, Premium planes, Ace Crews, Speed Crew training, crew slots, back-ups and Modules.  I don't believe I've ever purchased a Talisman.

 

 

My opinion now is that don't buy anything with GEs that you can grind and only buy things with GE that you can't. 

 

-- The number one best investment, IMHO, is premium acct if one plays 3~4+ times a week.  For someone who plays almost everyday like me, its a no brainer.  Everything you fly or drive along with their crews, benefits.  I have several free aces due to having premium acct for a few years now.

 

-- Second best investment would be a T4 premium or a T3 premium that hasn't or will mostly be able to get in war bonds.  Also better than premium acct if you play rather sporadic. 

 

-- Third best would be crew slots.  I don't tend to use more than a few crew slots in one game unless I'm trying a certain task for War bonds.  Then having 8 + slots gives me the flexibility to load up with multiple types of air craft(2/3 bombers, 2/3 fighters, 2/3 attackers) to get the job done. 

 

I wouldn't purchase anything else with GEs as I can grind them

 

-- Back-ups  please, I purchased 1 back up when I didn't know better my 1st day.  Now I have multiple back-ups from after battle rewards. 

-- Crew training  Nope, my air crews are almost maxed now and tank crews very close.  And with premium acct, it doesn't take long to get them to being competitive. (about a lvl 3 or more + expert)

-- Low Tier premiums  Nope 1st, many will be available for war bonds, second, one will grind past their effectiveness very quickly.  I would say buying a few at 50% is ok if you want to have it, you have nothing left to buy, and they will not be in the war bond shop likely.  (I-153P anyone?)

-- Modules  never again.  Just grind it baby.  with premium account, unless we are talking about T5, it doesn't take long.  But I would agree with the OP, spending a few GEs to buy expensive modules might be fine if you have a SL problem.  Something I never have. 

--Talisman  nah, I never play a vehicle that much anyways and besides, again, I have plenty of them from after battle rewards. 

 

OK, as a hard core PRO gamer I can agree with your direction, just some notes:

 

Modules: When you are grinding a R4 or especially R5 Jet and see you need <10 GE worth to finish a module, it is best to buy it.

You save SL (don't need to grind it), and best is you can use the module in next match.

 

And if you are Premium, then I agree a Tal is not that valuable.

 

OH!  and the Rank 1 PBY (UK/USSR) paid off IN SPADES.  

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I like to double dip in splashes, then I wait for lonnnnnnnng stretches before being tempted to spend again.

 

I go for the rare big deals, such as the mega sale last christmas.   I popped $70 for the the tank package they offered me which gave me 10 good premium tanks at 75% off, plus about 4000 GE and 1/2 year of premium.    With the premium, I switched gears and started grinding what hadn't been ground before.   Then I used the 4000 GE's to buy 4 more premiums I didn't have but wanted.   14 vehicles, including about half dozen tier IV's, for an average of $5 each.   I haven't regretted it a minute...because that package contained the two most popular and useful premiums in the game... the Tiger II H SLA and the T29 which cost about $39 each.   I have bought nothing since.

 

It's always good to have some GE's handy because occasionally you will score a 75% discount on a non-crap premium and you'll need to jump on it in short order.   I got one for the I-16-28 and I just got another on the t20.   I'm not even tempted by any offer 50% or less.

 

Talismen can be very valuable if you know what you're doing.    When I was grinding Russian tanks, I bought one the instant I unlocked the T-34-85 and I had the 85e premium as well.  I ground the rest of the Ru tank tree with the three 85's lickety split.   Don't buy Talismen for tier I and II... the game gives them to you.   Buy them ahead of your grind for tiers III and IV.

 

Never spend GE's on a vehicle that has been offered for Warbonds in the past.   It'll come up again.   And many are really good.   I've acquired about 10 vehicles through Warbonds since Jan 2016.

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19 hours ago, Pony51 said:

So you spent your hard to earn $EuroYenWhatever to get some Gold Eagles.

Now what to spend them on (not doing any good sitting there)?

 

From a CASUAL / Part time gamers experience (2 days a week, 4 to 8 hours total)

 

First off: keep some GE in bank for specials, never know what GJ does. :)  -  Sure, why not

Also in case you must have some extra Silver Lion cash for urgent purchase.

 

1. My top choice to spend GE on (if you are GE rich) are Premium Units. No because it will only limit your gameplay to specific nation's research and wont help towards spading everything.

 

 

2. CrewXP purchase.

Trained crew = winning more often.

Spend 10, even 100 GE to accelerate training and get the edge over others. 

The fact the training works for all vehicles assigned that crew and a permanent bonus, make this a great investment. No No - Eventually you will get there without having to spend eagles. Only exception to this is when you are totally fresh to war thunder and crew skill points have a 50% store discount off (if they ever give it again)

 

3. Purchasing Talisman.  

Like a Premium unit, it will give you Research Point (RP) bonus, but thats is.

One must be careful choosing which unit to Talisman, they need to be a one you are successful with or love to play.  Otherwise the Talisman would be wasted investment.

Talisman is a permanent bonus, so its always ready when using that unit which why a great investment (if you use it!) No in general cases - Maybe if there is a 50% discount for talismans and you already playing the game for over a year, so you are certain of which direction to go.

 

4. Buying unit modules, but only to finish the Modules!

1 GE=433SL with best GE/SL exchange rate.  

A module on a Rank 4 cost over 3000SL, rank 5 over 10,000SL  If it takes only 9 GE to finish, you save lots of SL spending a few GE!

If you are really lucky and have a Jet module (20,000SL typical) and need 1 GE to buy, now the exchange rate is 1GE = 20,000SL!

NOTE: Not worth expense with Rank 1 and 2.  Starts being useful with Rank 3 and up. No No No way Jose - even a single golden eagle is valued more than any extra hard fought games to get you that module - Not to mention, there will be times you will want to buy and you will be short like 20 eagles .... Why being forced to visit store for such a small buy, when you could have been  future wise and have fought for that module instead of wasting those 9 eagles on it ???

 

Dubious Investment:

1.  Premium Account Time:

This is a temporary advantage.  If you spend GE but cant play, the GE is lost.  So make sure you have to the time to take advantage of Premium time before buying.  It is low for the temporary nature, but is certainly great when things go your way time wise.   Eeer I am afraid this is the only worthy investment in the game, it will get you where you wanna be in half time of a non premium account. 

 

2. Camouflage (bushes) for tanks:

Camouflage does not work in Arcade since the game reveals your location anyway.  It is also not that big of advantage in RB and SB because the only moving bush is you!  Trees don't move unless knocked down, so again a moving bush is target (but works great if you found a great ambush spot). Anyone who wants camo, may earn it through warbond shop, therefore there is no need of even talking about potential buy on this occasion.

 

  • premium units like t29 or king tiger may be appealing to buy, but only if they are ever sold separately along with 50% off, dont be marketing victims.
  • do not buy anything if there is not at least a 50% off. 
  • premium units - some of them might look great ingame, but will narrow your game options - on the other hand premium time(faster grind for everything) will widen your options.
  • if you are fresh to war thunder ask around before visiting store, discounts may hit you hard if you are not aware of when to buy and when to wait.
  • your needs will change over time, plan accordingly.
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On 2017-5-13 at 0:26 AM, Pony51 said:

I forgot about some camo bonus.... is there a camo skill bonus??  Been years since I heard about that.

its like kicking someone with highly polished shiny heavy boots.. just hurts more)))

(no bonus in stat, but good lookin camo always better than stock / ugly camo)))

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Why doesn't Gaijin offer some kind of a permanent "premium light" account? Something that would give like 25% boost to SL+XP+RP. And forever. Games sold in a shop cost 50-60€ and they are mine forever. 

I play this game a lot, but very inconsistently (life) so i'll probably never buy premium. It is also way too expensive compared to other games.

I have never payed for Warthunder because of this, but, to me, this game is certainly good enough to buy if it would give me some permanent extras.

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51 minutes ago, Dodo_Dud said:

 

That is exactly what premium planes are about!

 

 I can see the benefits of those. But those premiums only work when you're using those premiums all the time. 

I'm saying Warthunder really deserves some of my pennies, but to me, unless great discounts, there are no reasonable options/incentives to do so. 

Something like:

-Free member: slightly losing SL in high tiers, very slow grind.

-Member who "bought WT permanent": earning some SL and a bit faster research.

-Premium: All benefits

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2 hours ago, Mechanikos84 said:

 I can see the benefits of those. But those premiums only work when you're using those premiums all the time. 

I'm saying Warthunder really deserves some of my pennies, but to me, unless great discounts, there are no reasonable options/incentives to do so. 

Something like:

-Free member: slightly losing SL in high tiers, very slow grind.

-Member who "bought WT permanent": earning some SL and a bit faster research.

-Premium: All benefits

 

I don't really see a point in the"light" version.

 

If you only get to play a little every few days -> log in daily, collect the boosters, burn them every three days.

 

 

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On 5/13/2017 at 7:38 AM, GaMe__OveR said:
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1. My top choice to spend GE on (if you are GE rich) are Premium Units. No because it will only limit your gameplay to specific nation's research and wont help towards spading everything. 

Game has over 700 units, will soon be 1000 units, and those eager to get those legendary late war units in a specific nation this is one of the best investments to get.  Some are better than others (but none bad), but the RP and SL bonus will make up for spending real money.  Dont forget the units has all modules unlocked so one starts it with full performance. Despite the limit you mention, well worth getting one that suits your play. 
Of course best to wait for big sales if you can.

 

2. CrewXP purchase.

Trained crew = winning more often.

Spend 10, even 100 GE to accelerate training and get the edge over others. 

The fact the training works for all vehicles assigned that crew and a permanent bonus, make this a great investment. No No - Eventually you will get there without having to spend eagles. Only exception to this is when you are totally fresh to war thunder and crew skill points have a 50% store discount off (if they ever give it again)

Just like you said, starting a fresh crew. That training is critical for success.   Also with Qualifications, sometimes you are just a few XP short, spend 1 or 10 GE, the the XP to that minimum level, Qualify, and start winning more often!

 

3. Purchasing Talisman.  

Like a Premium unit, it will give you Research Point (RP) bonus, but thats is.

One must be careful choosing which unit to Talisman, they need to be a one you are successful with or love to play.  Otherwise the Talisman would be wasted investment.

Talisman is a permanent bonus, so its always ready when using that unit which why a great investment (if you use it!) No in general cases - Maybe if there is a 50% discount for talismans and you already playing the game for over a year, so you are certain of which direction to go.

Like I said, one must be very selective and keep in mind as you rank up one will use that unit less.  I did Talisman my B-17e and Pe-8 and have been extremely successful with those units.  

 

4. Buying unit modules, but only to finish the Modules!

1 GE=433SL with best GE/SL exchange rate.  

A module on a Rank 4 cost over 3000SL, rank 5 over 10,000SL  If it takes only 9 GE to finish, you save lots of SL spending a few GE!

If you are really lucky and have a Jet module (20,000SL typical) and need 1 GE to buy, now the exchange rate is 1GE = 20,000SL!

NOTE: Not worth expense with Rank 1 and 2.  Starts being useful with Rank 3 and up. No No No way Jose - even a single golden eagle is valued more than any extra hard fought games to get you that module - Not to mention, there will be times you will want to buy and you will be short like 20 eagles .... Why being forced to visit store for such a small buy, when you could have been  future wise and have fought for that module instead of wasting those 9 eagles on it ???

extremely At rank 3 and up the cost of repair goes up dramatically, at rank 5 it can runie your day.  

 

Dubious Investment:

1.  Premium Account Time:

This is a temporary advantage.  If you spend GE but cant play, the GE is lost.  So make sure you have to the time to take advantage of Premium time before buying.  It is low for the temporary nature, but is certainly great when things go your way time wise.   Eeer I am afraid this is the only worthy investment in the game, it will get you where you wanna be in half time of a non premium account. 

As I said, it is transient, not permanent bonus, but if you can spend over 12 hours a week playing then it is a good bet.

 

2. Camouflage (bushes) for tanks:

Camouflage does not work in Arcade since the game reveals your location anyway.  It is also not that big of advantage in RB and SB because the only moving bush is you!  Trees don't move unless knocked down, so again a moving bush is target (but works great if you found a great ambush spot). Anyone who wants camo, may earn it through warbond shop, therefore there is no need of even talking about potential buy on this occasion.

Depends on the camo offered in shop / what one wants.  

  • premium units like t29 or king tiger may be appealing to buy, but only if they are ever sold separately along with 50% off, dont be marketing victims.
  • do not buy anything if there is not at least a 50% off. 
  • premium units - some of them might look great ingame, but will narrow your game options - on the other hand premium time(faster grind for everything) will widen your options.
  • if you are fresh to war thunder ask around before visiting store, discounts may hit you hard if you are not aware of when to buy and when to wait.
  • your needs will change over time, plan accordingly.

 

Your bullets repeated what you said earlier, but that last line I totally agree with, consider your game play and your goals when deciding.

 

Sales most often happen during the holiday season, keep eyes open.

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an important factor that can make or break a premium vehicle is BR and it can change at any mini patch.

until 3 months ago A7M1 was one of the best japanese premiums having 4.0 br and now it is at 4.7 so it is rendered not super fun anymore.

key is to know or keep an eye out for a premium that has lower br than it should or at least avoid premiums that have too high of a br for their performance lvl because it would ruin your experience with them.

something to consider.

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On 5/12/2017 at 2:11 PM, Pony51 said:

1. My top choice to spend GE on (if you are GE rich) are Premium Units.

Value of Premiums vary, but no matter what you choose the bonuses of a Premiums make then all worth getting.

Some of my favorite units (but not all of them!! Some did not use enough to judge) are:

 

T-34-100

 

(again, did not evaluate all of them, these are ones I have used enough to give opinion)

The problem with T-34-100 is that it is the only 6.7 tank.  The other 2 tanks would be gimped being 6.3.  Might not be a good investment at this time?  Useful and solid USSR prem tanks I recommend are:  T-126, T-34(1st Gv.T.Br.), and SMK.  Not sure about T-34-85E as I just got it.

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The best way to spend GE depends a lot on your play style.

 

I play pretty regularly, all nations, but only aircraft, and am trying to spade all the props that I find interesting/fun to use. Because of the difficult module grind and pronounced stock syndrome in tiers IV and V, a premium account has been a great investment for me. On top of that, I've bought a couple of high-tier talismans: for the La-9 and, just the other day, for the Bf 109 K-4. So, for me, a premium account and a few talismans have made the most sense to purchase with Golden Eagles. Low-tier talismans don't really make sense to me, as the grind down there is pretty easy. If I were better at WT, I might not need them for the upper tiers either, LOL.

 

I've bought a few premium planes, either for fun or to fill out arcade lineups. I also purchased the Danish roundel, since that one is not unlockable and I really wanted it.

 

I don't think buying modules is worth it. Buy a talisman instead, and all of the modules will come quickly. I'm also not really in favor of buy crew XP, as that seems pretty cost ineffective. (You don't get a lot in return for your money.) Having said that, if I've had some weird small amount left over in GE, I have put that into crew XP. 

 

Someone who has a different play style from mine could have vastly different priorities and goals, and would therefore want to use their money differently.

 

However, it is universally considered to be a huge waste of money to buy Silver Lions, no matter what. Those are easy to obtain for free, and the GE/SL exchange rate is horrible.

 

 

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On 6/2/2017 at 1:49 AM, Acckron said:

I have 2200 GE left, after i bought a german P-47, should I bank it and wait or spend it on another prem?

 

Also agree on banking it till a special.

 

But I would also spend a few GE for say CrewXP or paying off a units Module on Rank 4 or 5 (1 or 2 GE for Rank 3 units)

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You could buy a premium tank. Some are relatively cheap at about 1.5k GE. And those are Tier 3 premium tanks which means you can grind the whole tank tree -except the tier 5- with that tank plus you'll earn tons of Silver Lions. Like japanese 3.7 Tier 3 premium. Read the forums to find out more about those specific premium tanks. 

 

I wouldn't go for a premium account since a premium tank will be always yours. Your premium time expires.

 

Bushes might increase your survivability (although many people hate it)

 

 

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1 hour ago, *Amokfrog said:

You could buy a premium tank. Some are relatively cheap at about 1.5k GE. And those are Tier 3 premium tanks which means you can grind the whole tank tree -except the tier 5- with that tank plus you'll earn tons of Silver Lions. Like japanese 3.7 Tier 3 premium. Read the forums to find out more about those specific premium tanks. 

 

I wouldn't go for a premium account since a premium tank will be always yours. Your premium time expires.

 

Bushes might increase your survivability (although many people hate it)

 

 

I mostly just play arcade, so the bushes wont really help all that much. Cool though, ill look into some more premiums then.

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if there is no vehicle i can use, i would invest those in the crew slots. but hence you are playing arcade, and this mode has very specific system of gaining crew points, that would be a waste. just wait for a discount on some vehicles.

 

in a greater picture, it's just better to invest into T4 vehicles to grind through tech tree faster.

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