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Countermeasures against forbidden modifications.

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1 hour ago, sarevockk said:

my plane got dragged in a very improbable way straight into the front of the enemy plane making it move to the side in less than 0.5 secs moving like 50 or 70 mts... someone or a moderator ( since someone need to approve this comment) how do i report this suspicious external program or modification? and sorry the bother

If I can just make this clear, it is important to understand - such modifications are simply not possible, it is NOT POSSIBLE to boost your server side footprint (speed, hitting power, defensive power etc), what is possible is that client side info regarding position of opponent etc can be enhanced illegally with third party apps, usually unsuccesfully.

 

Regardless, if you suspect attempted cheats you should refer to our online reporting system here - http://warthunder.com/en/tournament/replay/  and use the available reporting system to log the exact game and user it concerns. Please do not spam this functionality with standard frustration and accusations as it will only complicate our current successes and intervention. Be sure it is a legitimate complaint as what is perceived as a cheat will in most cases in standard play siimply be a lucky shot or a situationally aware quaility player.

 

Thank you Stona.

 

 

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Good job! Glad to hear this, and the nerf to SPAA is also great! I didn't even know that displaying server info was a thing!:good:

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Well done well done keep it up I have quite a good set up on PC (mo Aim) usually) and although I say so im not bad? But I have Never cheated in any thing through life, I have been cheated on a lot but I also never (Lie) whats the point?? I have played thousands of games since computers started and nowadays it seem some of the people just want something for nothing all the time?? I must be getting old? BUT A BIG Thank you for trying to cure this. 

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Hello, I just encountered a very ovbvious cheater in tank SB battles (on my own team, this is not typical "xxxxxxxx" case), and I would like to report him using the replay system in that particular battle , but he uses Join in Progress therefore the doesn't show up in the teams list. As I've checked his other matches he is not using (possible) cheats every time, so this is pretty important. How could this be solved?


Thanks,

I can't stand cheating. :)

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2 hours ago, Chudo_ said:

How could this be solved?

Search him by using the friends list and describe as detailed as possible.

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ThanK you @Scarper  Your post was very informing and forthcoming. I fully support and agree to the steps you have taken, and I know you will continue your endeavors to keep War Thunder a great game free of unethical players.

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On February 2, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Scarper said:

In January, an additional 438 users were permanently banned for using third-party modifications in violation of the user agreement - use of prohibited modifications. (EULA).

 

Recently, we introduced a system of reports based on replays. With its help you have not only reported suspicious players but also you have improved the modification detection algorithm. Such an algorithm is based on a machine learning system which allowed us to detect almost all remaining players who use forbidden modifications (even if they had not yet been reported).

 

The specific patterns that we used are based on the difference in behaviour of a player who uses only “fair” information (real visibility) from the client and a player who also has server-side information on his monitor (such information contains more data). We have implemented this algorithm in a very conservative way, in order to avoid false positives. Every suspicious player was also checked by our employees after he had been detected by the program.

 

We will continue to improve our algorithm and will make sure that your gaming experience remains comfortable.

 

The War Thunder Team

Is there a list posted of the common ways people cheat? So we know what to look out for, I'll see things ingame that are odd, but I'm not sure sometimes.  

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Many thanks for all the efford to fight cheaters and for letting us know both the numbers of the cheaters detected as well with the counter measures Gaijin's Team is taking. It is very disappointing for a legit player to encounter cheaters, but it is also encouraging when the game publishers are taking measures to ensure a cheat-free gaming environment.


Please, keep up the good job against unethical players, my support along with all the rest of the decent gamers of War Thunder is with you.

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Good job you get these people, I'm wondering though, if they get taken out do they get erased on the Leaderboards as well?

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Thats great! I was wondering why I started to get kills and not get insta sniped.

Thank you gaijin, keep up the great work!

 

There is no honour in using cheats.

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Good job on getting rid of the fools that feels it is nessasary to use such devices in order to play, however it´s rather frustrating of the people that yells out cheater in private chat after a game and reporting you just for being either
1. Good at the game
2. Knowing that perticular plane with its strenghts and weaknesses
3. Being extremely lucky in that perticular match
Couldnt we get a ban for those wasting your time and ruining it for the people doing rather well.
For instance a 1 day ban after 30 reports that showed nothing(Just an example)

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Thanks for the post, it is nice to see something being done, cheaters are bad in a game like this and shame you have to spend resources on such things, I play an mmo/rpg and that company does nothing about the cheating and it has pretty much ruined pvp there,  once in a while they will have a crack down for a day or so and they say they perma ban people but it is only a three day suspension. 

 

Thanks this is why I do not mind buying something out of the store from time to time and buying some eagles.

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Since January, an additional 568 users have been permanently banned for using third-party modifications in violation of the user agreement - use of prohibited modifications. (EULA).

 

Our recent introduction of the system of reports based on replays has allowed you to not only report suspicious activity but also your participation has significantly improved the modification detection algorithm. This algorithm is based on a machine learning system which allows us to detect almost all players who use forbidden modifications (even if they had not yet been reported).

 

The specific patterns that we use are based on the difference in behaviour between normal players (using real visibility from the client) and a player who also has server-side information on his monitor (this information contains more data). We have implemented this algorithm in a very conservative way in order to avoid false positives. Suspicious activity is also checked by our employees after it has been  detected by the program.

 

We will continue to improve our algorithm to make sure that your gaming experience remains the best possible.

 

Thank you.

 

 

 

 


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Are most of those bans due to the server replay system? I've never thought it would be so effective. 570 users, omg that's a huge number. 

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How many of them had an E-100? ;)

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I am glad to see that for once a company that has an automated ban system actually has a human review crew to avoid false positives. This makes me think that the system will be very effective in the long run even against those that do false reports.

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On dinsdag 14 maart 2017 at 5:52 PM, HighDude said:

You guys should make a war thunder hacked version of this game where these kinds of people get sent to and then they can use their hacks and stuff. Like some kind of quarantine zone.

It's not worth it for the players to pay for the hackers to have their own server. They should just cry and move on. Giving them their own sandbox to develop hacks is insane in my opinion.

 

The current Gaijin-way simply shows the loyal players that their cries are being heard and it shows the would-be cheaters to simply don't start.

 

 

Seeing how antivirus and antimalware programs have defaced the word "heuristic" in the past 10 years, I have little faith in algorithms deciding on cheats.

I've seen a lot of debug info while being administrator on another game and in my experience all of the debug info is useless without a recorded video or replay-file.
 

So I have some basic yes&no questions about this, which are hopefully not a problem to ask.

1) Logitech Gaming Panel is a whitelisted 3rd part app, I may hope?

I'm asking that as the program has a bad habit of throwing hooks into other active applications and simply masking the path of your executable isn't going to fool Logitech Gaming Panel in adminmode (as it uses PID then).

2) I don't use overwolf because I have 2 monitors but that app is also doing some overlaying, which could be seen as cheats in many other games I've seen.

3) a. Why is there no application available to help us give more debug info / patterns / personal feedback?

b. How about an option in game-options to persistently request to save or delete the current replay post-battle? This would help a lot of players to make less mistakes with that. (I know wrong location to post suggestions, but it's more or less a question whether it's a good feature to even suggest)

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18 minutes ago, CmdNomad said:

How many of them had an E-100? ;)

Asking the real question here :)

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