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Updated Combined Simulator Battles

15 hours ago, _Nirvash said:

What are you talking about. Big version of Normandy is still the same and it is played quite often.

 

 

 

The high ground to the west has been out of bounds for quite some time now.

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On 7/20/2016 at 2:35 PM, Stona said:

 

Now players will have 2 event options available: first - 1 of 6  variants for basic rotation (ranks I-IV) and one of the additional 2 variants for rank V vehicles (1 per day). Thus players will have more available vehicles.

 

 

Twice the wait time for a battle with half the players.  Genius!

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4 hours ago, Snake509 said:

Disappointed to see the T-62 and M60a1 weren't added to the tier 5 sim for today.....

 

All the 1.61 vehicles appear to be missing at the mo'

 

Hopefully it won't take long for this to be corrected, but still worth mentioning

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Rasmussen's P-36A IL-2M type 3 P-47D-25 Pe-2-110 Pe-2-110 P-47D-28    
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Wirraway P-39K-1 (prem) T-34 prototype IL-2-37 IL-2-37 Tempest Mk II    
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Nb.Fz. Jagdpanzer IV Ju 87 G-2 Bf.109K-4 Bf.109G-2/trop Fw.190F-8 Tortoise F-86F-25 Sabre
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M.C.202 Panzerwerfer 42 Bf 110 C-4 Fw.190A-5/U2 Bf.109G-2 Ju.87D-5 Crusader AA Mk.I F9F-2
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Bf.109B-1/п Dicker Max Me 410 A-1 Fw.190A-5 Bf.109G-6 Ju.87G-1 Bf.109K-4 F9F-5
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  Hs.129B-3         Spitfire FR Mk.XIVe Meteor F. Mk.4 G.41G
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            Spitfire F Mk.XIVc Meteor F. Mk.8 G.41K
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            Spitfire F Mk.24 Venom FB.4
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            Tempest Mk.II Sea Venom FAW.20
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            Sea Fury FB.11 M41A1
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M41A1

 

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Vampire FB.5

 

Meteor F. Mk.3

 

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My update for more Historical realistic!

 

+ Please add any other vehicles. (we want to see bombers in mix battles and also the small biplane early war ..)

+ Please manager map for consistency with the simulation mode and playing time historical peridode

+ Delete the 3 respawns, If you lose on plane disable to respawn in tank, If you lose on Tank disable to respawn in plane. We want SIM not arcade respawn.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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52 minutes ago, Satarosa said:
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1. Why should Germans get jets 6_1 ? Historical to the detriments of balance ? Nope denied.

2. Who is this "we" who want to see bombers ? 

3. What do you even mean by " Please manager map for consistency with the simulation mode and playing time historical peridode " ?

4. So you want that people can only respawn ether in plane or tank ? And how will you balance team where in the small battle like 7v7 at the start one team has 4-5 people in the planes and other team is all in tanks ? Even with current system the chances of winning for a team with mostly planes are practically nonexistent unless there is just some god tier pilots ? And again, who is this "we" ? 

5.  You dont play SB, why are you proposing changes to the mode you dont play ? Do you want to kill the mode for other people because you dont care about it ? 

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3 hours ago, Satarosa said:

My update for more Historical realistic!

 

+ Please add any other vehicles. (we want to see bombers in mix battles and also the small biplane early war ..)

+ Please manager map for consistency with the simulation mode and playing time historical peridode

+ Delete the 3 respawns, If you lose on plane disable to respawn in tank, If you lose on Tank disable to respawn in plane. We want SIM not arcade respawn.

 

 

 

...Who is this "we" you speak of?

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5 hours ago, Satarosa said:

+ Please add any other vehicles. (we want to see bombers in mix battles and also the small biplane early war ..)

 

As a guy who enjoys mixed battles mostly because the ability to bomb/rocket players in tanks: No. We do not want level bombers with big bombloads.

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On 7/8/2016 at 3:09 PM, IceDeath said:

1. Why should Germans get jets 6_1 ? Historical to the detriments of balance ? Nope denied.

2. Who is this "we" who want to see bombers ? 

3. What do you even mean by " Please manager map for consistency with the simulation mode and playing time historical peridode " ?

4. So you want that people can only respawn ether in plane or tank ? And how will you balance team where in the small battle like 7v7 at the start one team has 4-5 people in the planes and other team is all in tanks ? Even with current system the chances of winning for a team with mostly planes are practically nonexistent unless there is just some god tier pilots ? And again, who is this "we" ? 

5.  You dont play SB, why are you proposing changes to the mode you dont play ? Do you want to kill the mode for other people because you dont care about it ? 

 

1. This is the real historical war, you can kill this jet with piston plane and AA tank. 

 

2. Yes why not? I paid bomber so I would like play them on sim mod, (Enduring confrontation is ***t) 

 

3. Some map is to small for jet, airports too near, AA of IA over powerful, and description is for WWII not for cold war..  :-/

 

4. With plane you can destroy Tank with bomb and rocket easily! If they put medium bomber and heavy bomber, plane will make a difference when tank want capture strategic position.

 

-Then you'll say start with heavy bomber is over cheat? Oh no, Take off is more hard, fighter and heavy fighter will destroy you, and AA tank omg big target flying slowly..

Good player don't need have this many respawn,  If you want respawn a lot for your "balance" go to arcade mod

 

5. Yes I start simulation, and is not me kill the simulation but people who want respawn like in arcade or in enduring confrontation!!

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On 7/8/2016 at 7:58 PM, esapekkis said:

 

As a guy who enjoys mixed battles mostly because the ability to bomb/rocket players in tanks: No. We do not want level bombers with big bombloads.

 

Yeah you are a Tank player, I teach you,

for kill a heavy bomber, who is flying slowly and not to high to target Tank like you, with is bomb  :-O

 

 Use machine gun of your tank and Explosif Ammo, is not so hard, I did killing fighter and heavy fighter like this!

          or          

 Buy a AA tank and use Explosif Ammo, it will easy to kill him

 

and 

Stay hide in forest is very hard to see tank in a forest with a plane!

 

 

Now you got the solution, with a little practice you'll love to kill them!

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11 minutes ago, Satarosa said:

 

Yeah you are a Tank player, I teach you,

for kill a heavy bomber, who is flying slowly and not to high to target Tank like you, with is bomb  :-O

 

 Use machine gun of your tank and Explosif Ammo, is not so hard, I did killing fighter and heavy fighter like this!

          or          

 Buy a AA tank and use Explosif Ammo, it will easy to kill him

 

and 

Stay hide in forest is very hard to see tank in a forest with a plane!

 

 

Now you got the solution, with a little practice you'll love to kill them!

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Nope you understood wrong. I'm a pilot and I love bombing/rocketing tanks (don't enjoy driving tanks that much). But I would hate to see most of the level bombers in mixed SB. And maybe you could tell me how taking off is hard with a bomber? You don't have to use rudder about at all thanks to multiple engines countering the torque and with the virtual cockpit you could even see if you are heading towards a tents / viewing towers for some odd reason while taking off.

 

And since you want simulate real realistic war, could you tell me how often heavy bombers were used to fly low to attack fighting tanks? Not to mention how "realistic" bombers would be with no cockpit view, 3rd person turret view and especially with those magical "hit anything from any altitude while using any speed" bombsights.

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+ Please add any other vehicles. (we want to see bombers in mix battles and also the small biplane early war ..)

 

Nooooooooooo. Let us NOT at level bombers designed to bomb area targets into mixed battles. The maps are too small, the targets aren't what they are supposed to bomb, and they are WAY too easy to fly, bomb, and hit with to be reasonable in tank battles.

 

Anything larger than a Pe-2, A-20, or Me 410 is overkill, and - to be frank - outright dumb. Let's keep the level bombers designed to bomb ports, cities, and factory complexes in EC where they actually have targets of that size.

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11 hours ago, esapekkis said:

 

Nope you understood wrong. I'm a pilot and I love bombing/rocketing tanks (don't enjoy driving tanks that much). But I would hate to see most of the level bombers in mixed SB. And maybe you could tell me how taking off is hard with a bomber? You don't have to use rudder about at all thanks to multiple engines countering the torque and with the virtual cockpit you could even see if you are heading towards a tents / viewing towers for some odd reason while taking off.

 

And since you want simulate real realistic war, could you tell me how often heavy bombers were used to fly low to attack fighting tanks? Not to mention how "realistic" bombers would be with no cockpit view, 3rd person turret view and especially with those magical "hit anything from any altitude while using any speed" bombsights.

 

 

not to mention heavy Bombers inability to reliably hit anything smaller than 100x100m

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Hi

 

For the map I agree, too small for a strategic bomber, and unrealistic.

 

For the take off with an heavy bomber that is full of fuel and max bombs loaded there  are runway that is very short and with a forest in the end of the track. Test it you crash on a tree if you pull back de joystick to early.

 

Virtual cockpit yes because normaly there is a full crew help you too see any where. So why not..

 

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36 minutes ago, Satarosa said:

 

Virtual cockpit yes because normaly there is a full crew help you too see any where. So why not..

 

 

And this Crew Needs to communicate the positions of the aircraft to the other crewmen... wich takes a lot of time and is really inaccurate... equating that with the virtual Cockpit or third Person view is nonsense.

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Didn't you know they had inter-mind connection allowing to view throughout each others eyes ? ;)

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Bomber undefeatable!?

 

We could make a simulation event to test, you take bomber and Will prove this statistic to the communaty:

 

Tank as about 5% chance to Win vs medium or heavy bomber.

 

AA Tank as about 95% chance to Win vs medium or heavy bomber.

 

Light Fighter as about 15% chance to Win vs medium or heavy bomber.

 

Fighter as about 50% chance to Win vs medium or heavy bomber.

 

Heavy Fighter as about 55% chance to Win vs medium or heavy bomber.

 

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Seems like you missed my question about the realism you wanted to add to the mode so I'll ask again: how often heavy bombers were used to fly low in order to attack fighting tanks?

 

Or how about the teaching that I should be taking HE ammo with me in order to shoot down those heavy bombers with tanks: how often tanks took HE ammo with them because they were fearing bomber attacks and wanted to defend themselves with their tanks main guns? (And how many bombers/planes were shot down with a main gun of a tank?)

 

And then your "statisctics". Even a blind man can use his forehead to see that they are nothing but pure rubbish.

 

I'm going to make a claim here: most of the SB tankers do not want bombers here (and I bet you can easily find more tankers who want all planes removed than tankers who want bombers added) and most SB pilots are going to be against the bombers too (mostly because bombers are implemented pretty much the same way they are in arcade).

 

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29 minutes ago, esapekkis said:

Seems like you missed my question about the realism you wanted to add to the mode so I'll ask again: how often heavy bombers were used to fly low in order to attack fighting tanks?

Yes there is not them mission in WWII, but is a game, like in cold war they never get US tank vs RU tank is a imaginary battle!

Cold war bomber could be attack ground unit.. 

 

Or how about the teaching that I should be taking HE ammo with me in order to shoot down those heavy bombers with tanks: how often tanks took HE ammo with them because they were fearing bomber attacks and wanted to defend themselves with their tanks main guns? (And how many bombers/planes were shot down with a main gun of a tank?)

In the game is work, in reality is possible too with a little luck 

 

And then your "statisctics". Even a blind man can use his forehead to see that they are nothing but pure rubbish.

Lol we can test on a game with observers

 

29 minutes ago, esapekkis said:

I'm going to make a claim here: most of the SB tankers do not want bombers here (and I bet you can easily find more tankers who want all planes removed than tankers who want bombers added) and most SB pilots are going to be against the bombers too (mostly because bombers are implemented pretty much the same way they are in arcade).

Yes because you don't want use AA TANK, and heavy fighter. Most of people don't like to  play this two category of véhicule.

What's the main role of a Heavy fighter if there is no bomber to hunt??

 

 

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