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T34 Heavy Tank (120mm Gun Tank T34)

T34 Heavy Tank  

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  1. 1. Do you want this Heavy Tank to be added to WT?

    • Yes!
      237
    • No!
      28
  2. 2. Before or after the T32?

    • Before
      87
    • After
      178
  3. 3. Should other T29 Variants be added? If yes, which ones?

    • T29 (Same Tank, 105mm T5E1 Gun identical to T95)
      13
    • T30 (Same tank, massive 155mm Gun T7E1 L/40)
      39
    • All of them!
      180
    • I say no here
      33


The T34 was one variant of the T29 Tank Series which were developed by the End of WW2 against heavy German Armour such as the Tiger II and the Jagdtiger. (and later IS-1 and 2)
In-Game it could be situated either before or after the Heavy Tank T32.


Statistics:


Weight: 64.2 t combat loaded

Length: 11.57m

Width: 3.80m

Height: 3.20m


Crew: 6, Driver, Commander, Gunner and two Loaders.


Armour:

-Hull Front: 102mm

-Gun Shield: 279mm

-Turret Front: 249mm


Main Armament: A 120mm T53E1 Gun, with very similar Performance to the M58. The T53 used APCR, APBC-HE and APBC Rounds, AFAIK. (User "arczer25" has great knowledge about these Tanks)


Secondary Armament: 2x .50 Browning M2HB.


Engine: Continental AV1790-3 air cooled 704 HP at 2.800 rpm.


Power/Weight: 10HP/tonne


Suspension: Torsion Bar


Speed: 35 km/h (22 mph)

In game, it could be at ~7.0, as it can be fought by IS-3's and King Tigers effectively.


Sources: R.P Hunnicutt's Firepower, A History of the American Heavy Tank.

Jentz & Doyle, Kingtiger Heavy Tank, 1942-45.
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I want them all, but pretty much in this order:

T32 (duh)

T29 (Tier 4, late BR)

T34 (Tier 5, early BR)

T30 (Tier 5, after M103)

 

For the T30, Britain would get the FV4005 Stage II, Russia would get the IS-7 (smaller gun but still fair considering it's a Naval gun), and Germany would get a tank that too can compete. Assuming one can be found.

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IS-7 to balance T30? Are you serious? I remember you, it has less Turret armour than the T32, and its gun isn't great. Also, the T34 didn't have any HEAT rounds. It would be an excellten competitor to the IS-3, together with the T29 and the T30. 

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I would love to have all American heavy line.
T-29, T-30 and T-34
But BVV_d, have said that we will have them soon.
 
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IS-7 to balance T30? Are you serious? I remember you, it has less Turret armour than the T32, and its gun isn't great. Also, the T34 didn't have any HEAT rounds. It would be an excellten competitor to the IS-3, together with the T29 and the T30. 

The 130mm gun packs enough of a punch on it's own to balance out the T30's 155mm gun and could arguably pen the front turret armour as well, the FV4005 itself has barely any armour except on the hull.

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The IS-7 is pretty invulnerable to the 155mm Gun, and would kill the last bits of balance we have in high tiers. 

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I want them all, but pretty much in this order:

T32 (duh)

T29 (Tier 4, late BR)

T34 (Tier 5, early BR)

T30 (Tier 5, after M103)

 

For the T30, Britain would get the FV4005 Stage II, Russia would get the IS-7 (smaller gun but still fair considering it's a Naval gun), and Germany would get a tank that too can compete. Assuming one can be found.

more likely T29 (7.0BR) tabbed with T32 (7.0BR) (to reduce grind) later T34 (7.3BR) on tier 5 tabbed with T30 (7.3BR) ending with M103.

Main reminder: T29, T30, T34 mantlet is 204mm, 279mm is only near gun.

T29 will trade better firepower (5RPM vs 4RPM (t32) and better penetration) for worse protection

105mm T5E2

T14 APCBC penetration (based on archives from Whelmy) (probably need to review 1250m to 2000m)

 

      ArmorPower0m:p2=216.0
      ArmorPower100m:p2=213.0
      ArmorPower250m:p2=211.0
      ArmorPower500m:p2=208.0
      ArmorPower750m:p2=201.0
      ArmorPower1000m:p2=195.6
      ArmorPower1250m:p2=190.0
      ArmorPower1500m:p2=185.0
      ArmorPower1750m:p2=182.5
      ArmorPower2000m:p2=180.0
      ArmorPower2500m:p2=165.0
      ArmorPower3000m:p2=144.0

T29E3 APCR (based on archives from Whelmy)

 

      ArmorPower0m:p2=381.0,
      ArmorPower100m:p2=376.0
      ArmorPower250m:p2=379.0
      ArmorPower500m:p2=360.0
      ArmorPower750m:p2=348.0
      ArmorPower1000m:p2=335.0
      ArmorPower1250m:p2=323.0
      ArmorPower1500m:p2=312.0
      ArmorPower1750m:p2=302.0
      ArmorPower2000m:p2=292.0
      ArmorPower2500m:p2=263.0
      ArmorPower3000m:p2=221.0

T32 APCBC penetration in game is probably fine only round type don't match (in game APBC)

 

T34 HT lack heat, APCBC-HE round is still mystery, quite power full APCR 381mm 30 degree 914m (480-495mm 0 degree) and APBC is mediocre with about 250-275mm penetration 0 degree 914m (101mm 60 degree).

for now im done with T62 APCR penetration (for perfect round due to lack of info), (from 750m to 0m are suspected)

 

      ArmorPower0m:p2=520.0
      ArmorPower100m:p2=515.0
      ArmorPower250m:p2=510.0
      ArmorPower500m:p2=505.0
      ArmorPower750m:p2=500.0
      ArmorPower1000m:p2=495.0
      ArmorPower1250m:p2=475.5
      ArmorPower1500m:p2=454.0
      ArmorPower1750m:p2=433.5
      ArmorPower2000m:p2=413.0
      ArmorPower2500m:p2=362.8
      ArmorPower3000m:p2=312.5
      ArmorPower4000m:p2=213.4

 

and T30... APHE isn't powerful have about 200-210mm at 0 degree so if it don't get HEAT (400mm penetration) from later 155mm T180 it would rely on HE

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Small like the T-10M's or IS-4M's MG port? So extremely small that you gotta be on point blank range to have a chance to hit them? Take a look at the IS-7 Suggestion, the majority of players said NO.

 

The T29 Series weak spot is the huge lower glacis, which can easily be penetrated by a normal IS-2 at range. 

 

 

 

You don't need an IS-7. 

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and T30... APHE isn't powerful have about 200-210mm at 0 degree so if it don't get HEAT (400mm penetration) from later 155mm T180 it would rely on HE

HEAT would be better and would suit better for Tier V at a higher HR than the M103.


Small like the T-10M's or IS-4M's MG port? So extremely small that you gotta be on point blank range to have a chance to hit them? Take a look at the IS-7 Suggestion, the majority of players said NO.

 

The T29 Series weak spot is the huge lower glacis, which can easily be penetrated by a normal IS-2 at range. 

 

 

 

You don't need an IS-7. 

400mm HEAT Round from the T30. IS-7 had spaced armour along the hull but it's turret did not.

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HEAT would be better and would suit better for Tier V at a higher HR than the M103.


400mm HEAT Round from the T30. IS-7 had spaced armour along the hull but it's turret did not.

Did the T30 even use that round? 

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Guys please, the tanks have the hull armor of the jumbo. It most likely will fire solid shots only. I see no reason for this to be higher than 7.
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I think arczer25's estimation of the BR's was quite accurate. Together with expanded BR's to e.g 9.7 or 10.0, these Tanks would be great to fight against 105mm KT, IS-2 Mod. 1944 and IS-3/4M

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I think arczer25's estimation of the BR's was quite accurate. Together with expanded BR's to e.g 9.7 or 10.0, these Tanks would be great to fight against 105mm KT, IS-2 Mod. 1944 and IS-3/4M

Possibly, still it would be nice to see all the tanks in the game.

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HEAT would be better and would suit better for Tier V at a higher HR than the M103.


400mm HEAT Round from the T30. IS-7 had spaced armour along the hull but it's turret did not.

how T30 with 400mm HEAT inferior frontal protection, mobility, lack of rangefinder and only 2 RPM can be better than M103 with correct RoF have 5 RPM and 380mm penning HEAT?

 

anyway 155mm T7E1 had 1inch shorter chamber than 155mm T180

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how T30 with 400mm HEAT inferior frontal protection, mobility, lack of rangefinder and only 2 RPM can be better than M103 with correct RoF have 5 RPM and 380mm penning HEAT?

 

anyway 155mm T7E1 had 1inch shorter chamber than 155mm T180

T30E2 is still welcome with it's 155mm T180 :P. (Think it was the E2).

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T30E2 is still welcome with it's 155mm T180 :P. (Think it was the E2).

 

Still, it should not meet T-10M nor IS-7. 

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T30E2 is still welcome with it's 155mm T180 :P. (Think it was the E2).

T58 had 155mm T180 autoloader.

 

T30E2 had new modernized oscillating turret was with 120mm autoloader later called T57

 

T30 155mm T7 had also some sort of APCR but totally lack any proper data about it.

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T58 had 155mm T180 autoloader.

 

T30E2 had new modernized oscillating turret was with 120mm autoloader later called T57

 

T30 155mm T7 had also some sort of APCR but totally lack any proper data about it.

That;s right, cause the T58 was more or less on the same chassis also with an oscillating turret and 155mm Autoloading gun.

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