Raldi92

KV-2's AC and APCBC rounds performing like HE rounds

Here i join 2 replays who shoes that KV2 AC and APCBC rounds perform like HE .

 

To explain in both videos i was driving Sherman Jumbo and KV2 shot me in my gun mantlet . As normal AC round and APCBC round did not manage to penetrate but then a miracle happens , instead of bouncing both shells exlpode like HE shells and shrapnels hit my ammo rack and then a big boooom . Now as i know if a AP round its unable to penetrate it should bounce off this is what makes me think that this is a bug  .

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I myself got penetrated by a KV-2 AP shell in the UFP of a Sherman Jumbo while climbing a hill. The angle was around 60 degrees or more. Of course KV-2 don't give #### about my armor, nor about the shell's info card
Oh well... I started to avoid the thing.
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[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLJ6PzTPI5s[/media]

Yeah it was same issue this is absurde .Am happy to see that im not the only one here but im sad in the same time lol
Do you guys know how we can report this bug because it clearly is a bug Edited by Raldi92
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152mm AC shell have 5.2kg of TNT actually its a Hardened HE shell as 152mm HE have about 7-8kg of TNT, with rear (AP) fuze

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Crying like babies due to the best tank in war thunder doing its job lol, kv2 is gods chariot and obviously 152mm will kill anything see real life pics on google jesus the damage in game is half what a real kv2 could do go figure.................... :salute:

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Crying like babies due to the best tank in war thunder doing its job lol, kv2 is gods chariot and obviously 152mm will kill anything see real life pics on google jesus the damage in game is half what a real kv2 could do go figure.................... :salute:

 

And its been buffed beyond realism in other aspects. 

 

 

Also the Jumbos UFP is underperforming by a large margin. The 88mm L/56 and 85mm L/52 shouldn't be able to kill a jumbo Sherman through the turret, or Hull. 

 

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88mm l/56: Hull

http://www.wwiiequipment.com/pencalc/Generated/897.jpg?336955

 

88mm l/56: Turret

http://www.wwiiequipment.com/pencalc/Generated/89.jpg?668852

 

USSR:

85mm L/56: Hull

http://www.wwiiequipment.com/pencalc/Generated/369.jpg?934093

 

85mm l/56: Turret

http://www.wwiiequipment.com/pencalc/Generated/975.jpg?701031

 

Soviet 152mm shouldn't pen the Turret with APBC Ammo

http://www.wwiiequipment.com/pencalc/Generated/173.jpg?80472

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152mm AC shell have 5.2kg of TNT actually its a Hardened HE shell as 152mm HE have about 7-8kg of TNT, with rear (AP) fuze

Well its nice to know but it realy changes nothing . This shell should bounce off on Jumbo's mantlet before it has the time to detonate .

And how you explain in BananGods video that shell penetrate panthers tracks and travels the midle of the tank before its detonation ? Fuse on AP rounds with exposive filler is made to datonate after few mm after penetration not after 2m . Edited by Raldi92
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And its been buffed beyond realism in other aspects. 

 

 

Also the Jumbos UFP is underperforming by a large margin. The 88mm L/56 and 85mm L/52 shouldn't be able to kill a jumbo Sherman through the turret, or Hull. 

 

German

88mm l/56: Hull

http://www.wwiiequipment.com/pencalc/Generated/897.jpg?336955

 

88mm l/56: Turret

http://www.wwiiequipment.com/pencalc/Generated/89.jpg?668852

 

USSR:

85mm L/56: Hull

http://www.wwiiequipment.com/pencalc/Generated/369.jpg?934093

 

85mm l/56: Turret

http://www.wwiiequipment.com/pencalc/Generated/975.jpg?701031

 

Soviet 152mm shouldn't pen the Turret with APBC Ammo

http://www.wwiiequipment.com/pencalc/Generated/173.jpg?80472

I use only he in the kv2 as the ap is bugged so yes it cannot pen the turret but any hit on the turret penetrates the upper deck like a 1 shot maus and ferdinand kill.

 

 

Main Armament

152mm M-10T

Ammunition

  • G-530 AC
    The "Anti-Concrete" round has the same speed as the HE shell with decent amount of penetration for nearly all era III tanks. In ranges greater than 1000m the OF-530 HE shell should be loaded to effectively deal with any vehicle including heavy tanks. Compared to the PB-35 APCBC it has much greater speed, improving long range accuracy.
  • OF-530 HE
    The shell to rule them all. This nasty, unusually large bugger weighs 40 kg and with 75mm of shrapnel penetration will kill any armoured vehicle in game, if the roof armour or belly armour is struck. However if the shell fails to hit its mark, then most frontal armours will eat the shell. Aiming either at the bottom turret part, or cheek of the turret (hits driver's roof) or under the tank (to hit the soft belly) will bring the most satisfactory results aka one-shots.
  • PB-35 APCBC-HE
    The shell with the most penetration on all ranges and the one with the worst accuracy, given due its abysmal slow velocity of 436 m/s (975 mph). Thus it is not advised to be used, except in close range combat.

 

Ammunition 10m 100m 500m 1000m 1500m 2000m Type of 
warhead Velocity
in m/s Projectile
Mass in kg Fuse delay
in m:
Fuse sensitivity
in mm:
Normalization At 30° 
from horizontal:
0% 50% 100% Penetration in mm @ Ricochet: G-530 125 121 117 109 101 89 AC 530 40 0.9 15 +4° 42° 27° 19° OF-530 75 75 75 75 75 75 HE 530 40 0 0.01 +0° 11° 10° 9° PB-35 132 129 124 111 104 93 APCBC 436 51.1 0.9 15 +4° 42° 27°

 

 

 

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/648877323452803291/A2473907979606D30363F54189BBEF7641628951/

 

 

Gods own chariot the kv2 built for a specific war duty and succeeded at this task 100% no less.

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Crying like babies due to the best tank in war thunder doing its job lol, kv2 is gods chariot and obviously 152mm will kill anything see real life pics on google jesus the damage in game is half what a real kv2 could do go figure.................... :salute:

Maybe it will be hard to believe for you but KV2 cant penetrate jumbos mantlet !!!!! Do you atleast understand that ???
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Maybe it will be hard to believe for you but KV2 cant penetrate jumbos mantlet !!!!! Do you atleast understand that ???

Its 152mm if it hits anywhere in real life the tanks dead the end.

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Well its nice to know but it realy changes nothing . This shell should bounce off on Jumbo's mantlet before it has the time to detonate .

And how you explain in BananGods video that shell penetrate panthers tracks and travels the midle of the tank before its detonation ? Fuse on AP rounds with exposive filler is made to datonate after few mm after penetration not after 2m .

have you seen fuse delay? 1.2m

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have you seen fuse delay? 1.2m

still broken, the shrapnell of said APHE explosion shouldn't be able to pen 10-30mm of armor and blow up stuff without penning.

HE shells are a completely different thing. Broken beyond believe in this game
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still broken, the shrapnell of said APHE explosion shouldn't be able to pen 10-30mm of armor and blow up stuff without penning.

HE shells are a completely different thing. Broken beyond believe in this game

shrapnel in hit cam are only to show that explosion reached component, of course there are normal shrapnel's but they have just 10mm pen when KV-2 (not SU-152 they are weaker explosion) APHE,APC have 20mm of explosion penetration with can reach ammo under panther sponson protected by 16mm of armor.

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shrapnel in hit cam are only to show that explosion reached component, of course there are normal shrapnel's but they have just 10mm pen when KV-2 (not SU-152 they are weaker explosion) APHE,APC have 20mm of explosion penetration with can reach ammo under panther sponson protected by 16mm of armor.

wait what so even the APHE/APC after pen shrapnell in this game is overperforming and can pen armor it shouldn't?

 

Is this from data mining?

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It shouldn't pen tanks like the jumbo in the UFP, especially when its climbing a hill.
But since I know where this is going I'm gonna roll my eyes and sigh.
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wait what so even the APHE/APC after pen shrapnell in this game is overperforming and can pen armor it shouldn't?

 

Is this from data mining?

yep from data mining, KV-2 AP shells are actually redesigned HE shells 1 one have 5kg of TNT and 2 one equivalent of ~6kg of TNT normal 152mm HE shell have 7-8kg for comparison, so they generate strong blast-wave

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Da Tovarische. Glorious KV-2 is being of made from the stronkest Stalinium in the Urals, straight outta Magnitogorsk. Steel you say? Is no worthy for great Josef Stalin; turns impure Iron into pure, impenetrable Stalinium. Handcrafted and guided by the hand of great soviet war hero's, shell flies truer than the aim of glorious motherland sniper at Stalingrad, against the soulless jowls of the Fascist pigs, Kapitalists, NATO dogs, and Catholic Church. Stronk Tank, stronk like the currents coursing through the meandering veins of the Volga to deliver sanguine lifeblood to the Rodina. Stronk like Mother Russia. However comrade, puny crew is very entranced by stronkness of great shell of Stalin, so they taking of long time of loading!

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[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLJ6PzTPI5s[/media]

had the same in my Tiger with a Su-152... or ones when the round detonated 2 to 3 meters away from the tank just for the shrapnell to pen into the fuel tank and kablooey

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had the same in my Tiger with a Su-152... or ones when the round detonated 2 to 3 meters away from the tank just for the shrapnell to pen into the fuel tank and kablooey

shermans have that almost in every battle from arty...

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shermans have that almost in every battle from arty...

yeah i recently had that myself... but i don't remember which tank i used... 3 shrapnells into the engine... kablooey

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