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Update 04.08.2015 (1.51.9.20)

  • T-10M armour has been fixed: turret ring hole’s diameter was larger than inner wall of the turret so tank’s crew and modules could have been damaged by spall fragments if hit under the turret  
  • The error with camouflage on the USSR premium M4A2 has been fixed. 
  • The bug with coaxial machine gun on Maus has been fixed. it was impossible to aim the machine gun vertically.
  • Fixed the types of 90mm shells for T33 and T43 from armour-piercing with ballistic and armour-piercing caps to sharp armour-piercing shells. According to Pershing: A History of the Medium Tank T20 Series. R. P. Hunnicutt. Armor-piercing ammunition for Gun, 90mm, M3.
  • Roll function on P-51D-5 with a dead engine will remain controllable.
  • Wingmen in ‘Tactical control’ single missions will use bombs and rockets if the player cannot switch to another wingman. 
  • Rocket powered engines will now be able to restart in the air.
  • When fuel is overfilled, fuel counter will not show negative values.
  • Various issues when reconnecting to ‘Enduring Confrontation’ session have been fixed
  • User localizations sometimes not loading properly has been fixed
  • D, 520/521 - Refined fuselage polar and tail assembly (exchange rate stability has been improved). Improved handling at high speeds. Improved stability whilst in a vertical dive.
  • ХР-50 - Improved handling at high speeds. Improved stability whilst in a vertical dive. Geometrical and weight parameters of tail assembly have been specified.
  • Havok Mk.1 - Specified calculation for airflow on the horizontal tail surfaces, Inertia calculations updated and damped in all axes. Edited inertia calculations. Improved handling in all flight modes. Improved the operation of automatic engine control.
  • DB-7 - Specified the calculation for the airflow on horizontal tail surfaces, Inertia calculations updated and damped in all axes. Edited inertia calculations. Improved handling in all flight modes. Improved the operation of automatic engine control.
  • Boston Mk.1 - Specified the calculation for the airflow on horizontal tail surfaces, Inertia calculations updated and damped in all axes. Edited inertia calculations. Improved handling in all flight modes. Improved the operation of automatic engine control. Installed Pratt & Whitney R-1830-S3C4-G engine.
  • PBY-5/5a - The intermittent error where a tendency of pitching the nose upwards periodically when the rudder or stabilizator has been fixed.
  • Ki-43 (all models) -   Specified the calculation for the airflow on horizontal tail surfaces, Inertia calculations updated and damped in all axes. Edited inertia calculations.
  • Fury MkI - Installed  Kestrel IIs engine. Flight model has been completely reworked. Size, weight, and restrictions on control have been edited (vertical dive, overload, chassis durability). Wing and profile have been recalculated. Specified the calculation for the airflow on horizontal tail surfaces, Inertia calculations updated.and damped in all axes. Edited inertia calculations. .
  • Do-17E1 - Specified the parameters of the BMW VI engine. Installed propellers with fixed pitch. 
  • P-26 (all models) - Applied new calculation for airflow on horizontal tail surfaces. Inertia calculations updated and CG-position dependant on how much fuel is being carried. Specified climbing parameters.
  • P-36 (all models) - Flight model has been completely reworked. Recalculated the power characteristics of the engine (exactly conforms to prototype), improved handling on all flight modes and types. Fixed “jerking” on mouse aiming.
  • P-51/Мк.-1 - supply fuel tank added. In the inverted position the flight is limited to 10 seconds. Refined wing focuses (aerodynamic centre). 
  • A-36 - supply fuel tank added. In the inverted position the flight is limited to 10 seconds. Refined the wing focuses (aerodynamic centre). Specified the focus offset when releasing air brakes as well as their resistance.
  • P-51-D (all models) - supply fuel tank added.. In the inverted position the flight is limited to 10 seconds. Slightly reduced likelihood of engine overheating.
  • Il-28 - Refined balance and model of the airflow, increased negative destructive overload up to -4G (weight with full fuel tanks without bombs).
  • Vampire FB.5 / Venom FB.4 - Refined balance, model of the airflow and inertia calculations.
  • GUI changes:
    1) Above the hitcam there is a text message describing the result of the hit - ricochet, hit, destroyed etc.
    2) When the crew members of the enemy are destroyed a number of surviving crew memebrs is alsi shown the damaged module list.
    3) In the battle log displayed on the screen (destroyed, crashed etc.) are changed to icons.

 

Note: This update applies to PC/Linux/Mac users. PS4 Users will receive the update as soon as possible.

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Added line with Vampire FB.5

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Added info on icons in battle log

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Added details on GUI changes
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Thanks for the Maus MG fix. :)

 

But what is thing screen thing after the update?

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Great ! Some changes are really awesome, looking foward test it !  :salute:

Especially Boston Mk.1 & P-51-D + 90mm shells   ;)s

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Still see HEAT and APHE doing damage like confetti.

Nice update thou... Edited by Kaskeria
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thanks for t33 and t43 shells, but 90mm m318a1 is also sharp armour-piercing shells (m46 and m47) because it is standardized t33 shell...

 

EDIT/ just looked in game t33 is still APCBC, t43 is still AP shell, m318a1 still AP... they are the same shell fired from other cannon IRL.....

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  • P-51-D (all models) - supply fuel tank added.. In the inverted position the flight is limited to 10 seconds. Slightly reduced likelihood of engine overheating.

 

 

YISSSSSS.

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Slightly reduced overheating on P51 still doesnt fix it FUK SAKES. Im doing tests right now its complete garbage :@

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  • P-51/Мк.-1 - supply fuel tank added. In the inverted position the flight is limited to 10 seconds.
  • A-36 - supply fuel tank added. In the inverted position the flight is limited to 10 seconds. 
  • P-51-D (all models) - supply fuel tank added.. In the inverted position the flight is limited to 10 seconds.

 

 

 

That's really interesting. Just recently there was a topic debating about the cause of Red 7's accident:

 

[spoiler]

 

 

Good stuff!

 

The crash report pretty much explains in all detail what was happening and leaves no questions.

 

 

 

In short: As somewhat suspected, the fuel tank is the cause for the 109 having a very limited time window for inverted flights. Much shorter even before the lubrication system becomes troublesome.

 

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During inverted flight both suction points are simply not submerged in fuel. 

 

The entire fuel line between fuel tank and engine only holds 1.9 liters according to the report. This can be drained rather quickly as the incident showed. 10 seconds of inverted flight were enough to induce an engine failure.

 

 

 

 

 

Implications for the game? Well I doubt Gaijin is going to implement a more complex fuel/engine management system. Engine failures due to prolonged inverted flights (when is the last time you flew inverted for 10 seconds during combat?) by either fuel starvation or lubrication failures would be so rare that it's probably not worth the hassle.

 

Even though I'd really like to see that amongst lots of other ways to kill your engine :-/

 

[/spoiler]

 

 

http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/257251-109-inverted-flight

 

 

 

So I guess we're going to see more planes with fuel starvation in prolonged inverted flight?

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Slightly reduced overheating on P51 still doesnt fix it FUK SAKES. Im doing tests right now its complete garbage :@

 

Instead of being rude, send a bug report from your tests please.

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I like it when they adjust flight models. Playing feels more comfy afterwards. Especially, when that certain move and that special trick now REALLY happen... ^^

Thanks!

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nice to see l7 apds still not fixed

 

 

Another T-10M fix yet the L7 APDS is still underperforming.

 

If it's in bug report, we will try to fix it.

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Instead of being rude, send a bug report from your tests please.

Why should i loose my time sending bug reports wich wont be fixed. So many people bug report it showing real data of P51 cannot overheating at all an what we see from devs? Sligthly reduced overheating problem, pfff 

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Just tried the DB-7. Very different aircraft at low altitudes. This patch is a definite improvement.

 

Love all these little bugfix patches. Starting to see longstanding issues and complaints addressed.

 

Edit: Sadly, I just had a game crash at the end of an order (which I won). Still a ways to go I guess.

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If it's in bug report, we will try to fix it.

 

Good to see it being acknowledged, but at this point I'm more interested in why it was changed in the first place. First iteration of the dev server the value was correct, then it changed with no warning or source given. Dissapointed to see it was not acted on immediately given all the effort people put into gathering literally dozens of sources for the report.

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pfft fix it, sure just like it was said to post in the suggestion section of the forums about getting a 240mm mantlet for the Maus.  yet I'd see the clamoring and bug reports that were squashed as a big enough cry to bring that in but nope, germans continue to have a half complete and underperforming turret with the negative armor multiplier applied thanks for the 220mm I mean 207mm Maus turret really thanks.

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Stona, this also bug? or as we say "it's not a bug, it's an undocumented feature". (and this how this look)

I not found something about hit cam or kill cam in the patch notes.

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Checking ;)

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Should be fixed right now - restart required
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