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Hang in there! Just downloading, I'll try to get you some screenshots in the next couple of hours.

 

Looking forward  for it :)

Especially that it looks like there some inaccurate things, but I and RideR2 (skinmaker would work on his Gladych skin) would like ensure ourself.

 

BTW, if we find something wrong on it, how can we help to make better, more accurate skin?

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Rall, Gladych and Cheshire skins all up on dev:

 

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In further exciting news, I sort of badgered the dev team a bit about the Lancaster back when we were working on the Cheshire skin. The badgering has worked. 

 

Next update has Lancaster with proper 14,000 pound bomb load!

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Rall, Gladych and Cheshire skins all up on dev:

Can you upload more screenshots of that P-47D? (from other sides and with better quality)

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In further exciting news, I sort of badgered the dev team a bit about the Lancaster back when we were working on the Cheshire skin. The badgering has worked. 

 

Next update has Lancaster with proper 14,000 pound bomb load!

Would you do us a favor and badger them about british planes getting access to the g-suits that every era 4 american plane gets?

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Vasco, do you happen to know which requirements the skins have to unlock or hasn't this been added yet?

Hasn't been finalised, but I was asked to rate them in terms of difficultly and suggest a sort of feat required for unlock. HQ are looking into seeing if it is possible to have a base bombing type achievement to unlock the Cheshire skin; I'd imagine the Rall skin will be quite a tricky one. I've suggested both Rall and Gladych are air-to-air kill based.

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 HQ are looking into seeing if it is possible to have a base bombing type achievement to unlock the Cheshire skin;

 

I really hope that it appears to be possible. :good:

 

Having to destroy hundreds of ground targets in strategic bomber demand flying it quite low, when going to targets for them (bases) give nothing. This is at least weird.

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Hasn't been finalised, but I was asked to rate them in terms of difficultly and suggest a sort of feat required for unlock. HQ are looking into seeing if it is possible to have a base bombing type achievement to unlock the Cheshire skin; I'd imagine the Rall skin will be quite a tricky one. I've suggested both Rall and Gladych are air-to-air kill based.

Base bombing for Cheshire would be neat.
Hoping Rall won't get a map specific requirement for air kills.

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Just realized Captain Hans Dortenmann hasn't been suggested yet.
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Ace: Hans Dortenmann
Nationality: German
Service: Luftwaffe
Aircraft: FW 190
Variant: D-9
Serial Number: W.Nr. 210003
Time Frame: October 1944
Approved by Biographer:

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W Krupinski (Air Force) is approved, although I found something what may cause problem: Rudel Scandal

 

Not that I have problem, but some people may have I worry.

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Why hasn't George Beurling been featured in Ace of the Month before?

Same reason as any of the others on the list on Page 1. We do one per month, we haven't got around to him yet. 

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W Krupinski (Air Force) is approved, although I found something what may cause problem: Rudel Scandal

 

Not that I have problem, but some people may have I worry.

Krupinski may well have gotten a raw deal there and wasn't the only post war member of the German military to retire early due to political scheming which is what that episode smacks heavily of.  His involvement with the post war Gehlen organization may be more of a disqualifer in some eyes but he was no fan of Hitler or the Nazis. 

 

Krupinski was fairly close with Gunther Rall, Macky Steinhoff, Herman Graf, Gerhard Barkhorn and others of JG52 at the time the Gestapo came to investigate two of their fellow pilots for "jewish ancestry."   All of the above expressed opposition to Dieter Hrabek of 2nd Gruppe and the Kommodore of JG 52, Herbert Ihlefeld, about what the Gestapo were doing and wound up sending the Gestapo home in their urine soaked car after someone took a dump in the back seat and put a dead dog in the trunk.  Steinhoff directly names Rall, Barkhorn and Krupinski as fellow participants in an interview he gave in 1993 shortly before his death.  

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Rall, Gladych and Cheshire skins all up on dev:
 
attachicon.gifRall.jpg
attachicon.gifGladych.jpg
attachicon.gifCheshire.jpg
 
In further exciting news, I sort of badgered the dev team a bit about the Lancaster back when we were working on the Cheshire skin. The badgering has worked. 
 
Next update has Lancaster with proper 14,000 pound bomb load!


Nice, does that bf109s spinner have a spiral on it?
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Can I get more details about those?

 

C Galić (Croatia) - accusations of membership of a pre-war fascist terrorist group

M Dukovac (Croatia) - accusations of anti-Semitic stance during post war career

 

Being terrorist or Anti-Semite is obvious no go, but "accusation" suggest those are not confirmed?

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i would like to know about some Night Fighter aces.

 

Heinz-Wolfgang Schnaufer?

 

Helmut Lent?

 

Heinrich Prinz zu Sayn Wittgenstein?

 

 

and the like

 

currently we are missing 90% of the Nachtwaffe.

so until those are added, we can't suggest them

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Can I get more details about those?

 

C Galić (Croatia) - accusations of membership of a pre-war fascist terrorist group

M Dukovac (Croatia) - accusations of anti-Semitic stance during post war career

 

Being terrorist or Anti-Semite is obvious no go, but "accusation" suggest those are not confirmed?

I used the word 'accusations' because it is not my place to go tarring the reputation of people when I just don't have all the evidence. 

 

Galic - Osprey's 'Croatian Aces of World War 2' states he was a member of a terrorist group before the war; one of our members of staff did a little more digging and found a second book which states he was awarded a medal by this group.

 

Dukovac - 'Flying in Support of the Luftwaffe' by Frank Joseph accuses Dukovac of joining the post-war Syrian Air Force due to his anti-Jewish beliefs. 

 

Now obviously we have to be extremely careful with any of this, but until it is cleared up the decision has been made to avoid any potential offence caused by featuring these individuals. Obviously, there is the risk of the flip side which is offending the the Croatian community by not featuring their war heroes. If it is any consolation, the most senior Croatian on the War Thunder team was heavily involved in the process behind this decision, it was not taken lightly and we are planning other features to honour the men of the Croatian military and their brave achievements. 

 

EDIT - just saw the post of night fighters. It's a bit of a show stopper at the moment, not having their aircraft in game, but I've tried in some small way to redress this by writing a feature on the birth of the German night fighter force. That should be getting published next month, I think. 

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I used the word 'accusations' because it is not my place to go tarring the reputation of people when I just don't have all the evidence. 

 

Galic - Osprey's 'Croatian Aces of World War 2' states he was a member of a terrorist group before the war; one of our members of staff did a little more digging and found a second book which states he was awarded a medal by this group.

 

Dukovac - 'Flying in Support of the Luftwaffe' by Frank Joseph accuses Dukovac of joining the post-war Syrian Air Force due to his anti-Jewish beliefs. 

 

Now obviously we have to be extremely careful with any of this, but until it is cleared up the decision has been made to avoid any potential offence caused by featuring these individuals. Obviously, there is the risk of the flip side which is offending the the Croatian community by not featuring their war heroes. If it is any consolation, the most senior Croatian on the War Thunder team was heavily involved in the process behind this decision, it was not taken lightly and we are planning other features to honour the men of the Croatian military and their brave achievements. 

 

EDIT - just saw the post of night fighters. It's a bit of a show stopper at the moment, not having their aircraft in game, but I've tried in some small way to redress this by writing a feature on the birth of the German night fighter force. That should be getting published next month, I think. 

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Thanks for explanation. I somehow didn't noticed such thing about Galic in book, looks like I have to read it again.

 

Dukovac from the other hand is accused only in one book, also this may have problem with reliability. I found review of that book

Review: The Axis Air Forces

[spoiler]What does the average reader know about the brothers in arms of Luftwaffe? For a start, the Japanese air force of course, at Pearl Harbor in particular; some know about the Regia Aeronautica Italiana, whether they fought more or less well; and beyond that, even the average reader of history and WWII quickly loses ground. How many of us know anything at all about the Hungarian, Slovak or Manchurian Air Forces? Did you know that the Royal Thai Air Force traces its roots to 1913, and at times flew Thai warplanes? How many of us non-experts know that the top non-German ace was Ilmari Juutilainen with 94 confirmed victories? Or that the RAF once fought it out with the Iraqi Air Force?

Frank Joseph has chosen an excellent subject for his book. The result could have been exciting, interesting and enlightening. It’s anything but.

The author is not just a bad writer, but someone with a true gift of incompetence; you cannot write this bad by mistake. One of his tics is the urge to tell us, whenever units fight, the numbers: just how many of each kind of plane or ship participated and fell on both sides. Whether we get context, colour or any historical meaning whatsoever is another matter completely, but we do get to know that 5 of these destroyed 2 of these et cetera. Another tic is that whenever a new plane is mentioned (which of course happens frequently in a book like this), he can’t wait to tell us the most important data: how many engines, of what builds and how many horsepowers, how many guns of what kinds, top speed, service ceiling, wing area and so on. These hairballs of digits turn up on just about every page. I soon learned to skip them, since any data that mattered was pointed out anyway. The author seems to be completely ignorant of the concept of flow. Any association can take over at any time, steering the text in random directions. No chapter is dedicated to the Soviet warbirds, but a description of them runs for several pages in the middle of a chapter on something else. Retold in this unfocused, haphazard fashion, minor events turn strangely surreal, and the war as a whole frequently feels as some epic conflict I’ve never really heard about before.

The introduction is a good way to get a feel for this book. In just ten pages, all quirks as listed are demonstrated.

As I eventually got used to the style — or rather, abandoned hope — I began to see other things. Whenever Frank Joseph describes the darker aspects of war, he’s almost always describing the Allied forces. The occupation of Czechoslovakia, the division of Poland and the invasion of Manchuria are explained as sensible and necessary actions, or not explained at all. Manchukuo and the Vichy regime were certainly nothing like puppet states, we’re told. Churchill, on the other hand, was a criminal of the lowest kind, sabotaging the European fight against communism. And on it goes.

The Allied are not only evil but incompetent. Numerous fights are outlined, and it is soon apparent that any Axis pilot invariably outfights any Allied pilot, lest the latter brings at the very least twice as many comrades in twice as good planes.

One might ask how such a pitiful alliance ever could win the war? With the help of traitors and collaborators, with unmanly diversions such as project ULTRA and the like. As long as the fighting was fair and clean, the reds and their friends always lost.

The book wasn’t only somewhat unreadable, but truly unreliable as well. By now, I got curious about the author. Who was this Frank Joseph?

On the cover, he’s presented to us as ”professor of world archaeology”, not with any known university but with a ”Savant Institute” in Japan. I’ve yet to find any information whatsoever about this institute. He is a regular contributor (editor?) of Ancient American magazine, which keeps track of ”neglected and even suppressed factual evidence” demonstrating contacts across the Atlantic and the Pacific hundreds and thousands of years before Columbus. He’s written many books on Atlantis, not as a phenomenon but as the real deal. In short, Frank Joseph is a crank. — Yet, this is only the beginning.

In 1970, Frank Collin, Chicago, founded The National Socialist Party of America. They soon got infamous locally for their marches directed toward black people. In 1977, they got attention from all across the country when they announced a march through the mainly jewish suburb of Skokie. They are the real ”Illinois Nazis” as featured in The Blues Brothers. The Skokie march turned into a complex legal process with no clear winner. The march never took place.

By now, however, Frank Collin had run into much bigger personal problems. First, it was revealed that he, of all people, was Jewish. And then he got arrested for molesting young boys. The now very much former president of the NSPA got in prison. When released three years later, he changed his name to Frank Joseph.

He turned to writing, in particular about the esoteric, mystic and new age. The secrets of the pyramids, the mayas, rune magic, the holy grail... And, in particular, Atlantis. A couple of years ago he turned to World War II. In 2010 he published Mussolini’s War; according to reviews, it appears to be as imaginative as Axis Air Forces.

How come this stinker was published by a real, respectable company as Praeger? Even if they did zero research on the author (as they possibly did zero editing of his text), one of his ”merits” listed in the book is being a feature writer of the revisionist The Barnes Review — ”Politically incorrect, but historically accurate!” — founded by Willis Carto of IHR infamy. If the contributions of Joseph/Collin there are half as bad as Axis Air Forces, the better.[/spoiler]

 

Well, I hope that Dukovac case in future would be confirmed or denied. Balkans are not easy field though.

 

BTW, do we have any night ace on the master list?

 

Still I see some possibilities for them, Bf 110C-4 (Heinz-Wolfgang Schnaufer?), we have English Havoc. Oh remember I met a German bomber pilot with big number of missions, who converted to night pilot on Bf109G-6 and got 23 kills. I don't remember his name thought.

 

Ok, I found him, Arnold Döring

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Too bad the best Polish night pilot have 4 destroyed planes confirmed (other one have 2 destroyed and 3 damaged, so 5 victories, do it count? :)

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