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Well, next month's Ace will be German, so by a process of elimination it will come as no surprise to most that Japan is the only nation we haven't looked at yet: if things carry on along the current plan, you can expect the first Japanese Ace of the Month in July.

Very Good ;]

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Well, next month's Ace will be German, so by a process of elimination it will come as no surprise to most that Japan is the only nation we haven't looked at yet: if things carry on along the current plan, you can expect the first Japanese Ace of the Month in July.

I am excited for both the upcoming German Ace release skin and future release of the Japanese Ace. :good:

 

Please make them challenging and worthwhile

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If you wont write about Ilmari "Illu" Juutilainen or Hans "Hasse" Wind Im gonna get mad :learn:

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Hımm german ace . 

I think Gustav Rödel http://www.luftwaffe.cz/rodel.html

Gustav Rödel :“You are fighter pilots first, last, always. If I ever hear of any of you shooting at someone in a parachute, I'll shoot you myself." 

 

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Thanks for the suggestions, guys, I particularly liked Rodel's quote. As for how challenging the skins will be to unlock, this will very much depend on what tier they are in. The next skin is low tier so won't be very difficult to unlock as we want it to be accessible by inexperienced players as well. However, for future skins we may well look at making them a bit more difficult based on the feedback from you guys!

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Hımm low level German ace. 

 

Werner Mölders and Adolf Galand. Who could be older. 

 

Galand Bf109 E

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Mölders Bf109 f2

 

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Look this video. Galand and Mölders vs Göring : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rx7RtBNsoU#t=01m35s

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Thanks for the suggestions, guys, I particularly liked Rodel's quote. As for how challenging the skins will be to unlock, this will very much depend on what tier they are in. The next skin is low tier so won't be very difficult to unlock as we want it to be accessible by inexperienced players as well. However, for future skins we may well look at making them a bit more difficult based on the feedback from you guys!

For the first Ace of the Month, Alexanded Pokryshkin, it was very limiting.  Premium plane exclusive.  The extra rewards of +50% exp was a nice touch, as well as the new mission (albeit with bugged rewards).

 

The second Ace of the Month, Edward F Rector, was very lackluster.  Low level plane with easy and already cheap modifications.  Wasnt engaging for the large majority of the player base who already owned the P40.

 

Im hoping the following Brit. Ace of the Month will make a better showing.

 

What I would like to see:

 

Ace of the Month Challenges/Achievements:

 

Destroy X amounts of X targets in Arcade/HB/FRB with increasing rewards.

Completing one/two/in all difficulties will unlock decals and/or skins and player icons!

 

or something like that...

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Well, to answer that, here's the story so far...

 

- I came up with the Ace of the Month idea a good few months ago. After agreeing on it, I selected an Ace for the first feature. However, the WT team had literally just finished a premium aircraft for Pokryshkin, so it made perfect sense to go live with Ace of the Month without delay, and use the new premium aircraft.

- After that, there were anticipated delays because the team are very busy with updates and some other features. So, we decided to go with a skin already in game; I picked Edward Rector because I thought it was a great story to tell. The WT team have taken onboard your comments about the promotional offer which came with the feature, and hopefully you'll find that situation is now improved.

- As for the next Ace, I've already mentioned that it is a low tier, and so I'm afraid you might not find the unlock hugely challenging because that is not the idea. The idea is to tell an individual's story and make their aircraft useable in game. Maybe for some future aces we might make it very challenging, but this next one won't be, that was not part of our plan at this stage. However, it's a great idea and one we will definitely consider for future features. 

 

So, there will be more offers this time around and a brief challenge to unlock the skin, but we're still in early days so any ideas from you guys are greatly appreciated, and I do honestly read every post in this thread and consider how we can use your ideas. After this one, two out of the next three Aces are community suggestions.

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Oh, thats fair and understandable then! The articles on both pilots were well written,  Engaging and informative with just the right length. 

But it felt like WT took a step back when E. Rector came up.  As a tribute, i flew my P40 with the Flying Tiger skins, but as I mentioned, it wasnt engaging.

 

I do look forward to how this (hopefully, an annual staple) feature of WT will develop.

 

And I gave that suggestion of linked rewards for the multiple difficulty modes as hopefully it will engage players to give the other modes a try, because frankly... people like unlocking free things.

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I assume you already have your ideas for Japanese and German pilots, therefore I might suggest someone different.
Ok, not exactly as different, as "polish lobby" is strong in this thread, but I think my suggestion would be very interesting not only for polish playerbase.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanis%C5%82aw_Skalski
As you see there are some very interesting elements in his biography (I especially like when he landed next to shot down german plane, helped the pilot and defended him from locals attemting to lynch him). Also he took part in the very first stage of WW2, so his biography would be probably a nice opening for presenting the pilots representing the nations other than the main 5 superpowers.
I honestly would love to read about less known, but not any less important czechoslovak, finnish, intalian etc. pilots.
Cheers and keep up your good job.
 

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I assume you already have your ideas for Japanese and German pilots, therefore I might suggest someone different.
Ok, not exactly as different, as "polish lobby" is strong in this thread, but I think my suggestion would be very interesting not only for polish playerbase.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanis%C5%82aw_Skalski
As you see there are some very interesting elements in his biography (I especially like when he landed next to shot down german plane, helped the pilot and defended him from locals attemting to lynch him). Also he took part in the very first stage of WW2, so his biography would be probably a nice opening for presenting the pilots representing the nations other than the main 5 superpowers.
I honestly would love to read about less known, but not any less important czechoslovak, finnish, intalian etc. pilots.
Cheers and keep up your good job.
 

I would love this ;]

If only Polish Planes will be added...... :dntknw:

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Douglas Bader, I read a book on him and found his story pretty inspirational. If I remember from the book correctly I think it said that he came up with some of the strategies which helped the RAF win the Battle of Britain. I saw that he was mentioned in your post about Richard Cork so I think it would be fitting to have him as the next British Ace. ;)s

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I just like to inquire as to whether Erich Hartmann will get a mention in the 'Ace of the Month' publishing.

 

He was the top scoring fighter ace of all time.

 

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Erich "Bubi" Hartmann Germany Luftwaffe 352 (top ace of all time)

Gerhard Barkhorn Germany Luftwaffe 301  

Günther Rall Germany Luftwaffe 275

Otto Kittel Germany Luftwaffe 267

Walter "Nowi" Nowotny Germany Luftwaffe 258  

Wilhelm Batz Germany Luftwaffe 237  

Erich Rudorffer Germany Luftwaffe 222 (12 Me-262)

Heinz Bär Germany Luftwaffe 220 (16 Me-262)  

Hermann Graf Germany Luftwaffe 212  

Heinrich Ehrler Germany Luftwaffe 208 (8 Me-262)  

Theodor Weissenberger Germany Luftwaffe 208 (8 Me-262)

Hans Philipp Germany Luftwaffe 206

Walter Schuck Germany Luftwaffe 206 (8 Me-262)

Anton Hafner Germany Luftwaffe 204

Helmut Lipfert Germany Luftwaffe 203

Walter Krupinski Germany Luftwaffe 197  

Anton Hackl Germany Luftwaffe 192  

Joachim Brendel Germany Luftwaffe 189  

Max Stotz Germany Luftwaffe 189

Joachim Kirschner Germany Luftwaffe 188

Kurt Brändle Germany Luftwaffe 180

Günther Josten Germany Luftwaffe 178

Johannes Steinhoff Germany Luftwaffe 176

Ernst-Wilhelm Reinert Germany Luftwaffe 174

Günther Schack Germany Luftwaffe 174

Emil Lang Germany Luftwaffe 173

Heinz Schmidt Germany Luftwaffe 173

Horst Ademeit Germany Luftwaffe 166

Wolf-Dietrich Wilcke Germany Luftwaffe 162

Hans-Joachim Marseille Germany Luftwaffe 158 (Destroyed most Western Allied aircraft.)

Heinrich Sturm Germany Luftwaffe 158

Gerhard Thyben Germany Luftwaffe 157

Hans Beisswenger Germany Luftwaffe 152

Peter Düttmann Germany Luftwaffe 152

Gordon M. Gollob Germany Luftwaffe 150

Fritz Tegtmeier Germany Luftwaffe 146

Albin Wolf Germany Luftwaffe 144

Kurt Tanzer Germany Luftwaffe 143

Friedrich-Karl Müller Germany Luftwaffe 140

Karl Gratz Germany Luftwaffe 138

Heinrich Setz Germany Luftwaffe 138

Rudolf Trenkel Germany Luftwaffe 138

Franz Schall Germany Luftwaffe 137 (14 Me-262)

Walter Wolfrum Germany Luftwaffe 137

Horst-Günther von Fassong Germany Luftwaffe 136

Otto Fönnekold Germany Luftwaffe 136

Karl-Heinz Weber Germany Luftwaffe 136

Joachim Müncheberg Germany Luftwaffe 135

Hans Waldmann Germany Luftwaffe 134

Alfred Grislawski Germany Luftwaffe 133

Johannes Wiese Germany Luftwaffe 133

Adolf Borchers Germany Luftwaffe 132

Adolf Dickfeld Germany Luftwaffe 132

Erwin Clausen Germany Luftwaffe 132

Wilhelm Lemke Germany Luftwaffe 131

Gerhard Hoffmann Germany Luftwaffe 130

Heinrich Sterr Germany Luftwaffe 130

Franz Eisenach Germany Luftwaffe 129

Walther Dahl Germany Luftwaffe 129

Franz Dörr Germany Luftwaffe 128

Rudolf Rademacher Germany Luftwaffe 126 (8 Me-262)

Josef Zwernemann Germany Luftwaffe 126

Dietrich Hrabak Germany Luftwaffe 125

Wolf-Udo Ettel Germany Luftwaffe 124

Herbert Ihlefeld Germany Luftwaffe 123 (+7 in Spain)

Wolfgang Tonne Germany Luftwaffe 122

Heinz Marquardt Germany Luftwaffe 121

Heinz-Wolfgang Schnaufer Germany Luftwaffe 121 (top night fighter ace - all kills at night)

Robert Weiß Germany Luftwaffe 121

Friedrich Obleser Germany Luftwaffe 120

Erich Leie Germany Luftwaffe 118

Franz-Josef Beerenbrock Germany Luftwaffe 117

Hans-Joachim Birkner Germany Luftwaffe 117

Jakob Norz Germany Luftwaffe 117

Walter Oesau Germany Luftwaffe 117

Heinz Wernicke Germany Luftwaffe 117

August Lambert Germany Luftwaffe 116

Werner Mölders Germany Luftwaffe 115 (incl. 14 in Spain)

Wilhelm Crinius Germany Luftwaffe 114

Werner Schröer Germany Luftwaffe 114

Hans Dammers Germany Luftwaffe 113

Berthold Korts Germany Luftwaffe 113

Kurt Bühligen Germany Luftwaffe 112

Helmut Lent Germany Luftwaffe 110 (night fighter ace - 102 kills at night)

Kurt Ubben Germany Luftwaffe 110

Franz Woidich Germany Luftwaffe 110

Reinhard Seiler Germany Luftwaffe 109

Emil Bitsch Germany Luftwaffe 108

Hans Hahn Germany Luftwaffe 108

Bernhard Vechtel Germany Luftwaffe 108

Viktor Bauer Germany Luftwaffe 106

Werner Lucas Germany Luftwaffe 106

Günther Lützow Germany Luftwaffe 105

Adolf Galland Germany Luftwaffe 104 (7 Me-262)

Eberhard von Boremski Germany Luftwaffe 104

Heinz Sachsenberg Germany Luftwaffe 104

Hartmann Grasser Germany Luftwaffe 103

Siegfried Freytag Germany Luftwaffe 102

Friedrich Geisshardt Germany Luftwaffe 102

Egon Mayer Germany Luftwaffe 102

Max-Hellmuth Ostermann Germany Luftwaffe 102

Josef Wurmheller Germany Luftwaffe 102

Rudolf Miethig Germany Luftwaffe 101

Josef Priller Germany Luftwaffe 101

Ulrich Wernitz Germany Luftwaffe 101

Leopold Steinbatz Germany Luftwaffe 99

Wolfgang Späte Germany Luftwaffe 99

Gustav Rödel Germany Luftwaffe 98

Hermann Schleinhege Germany Luftwaffe 97

Ilmari Juutilainen Finland Finnish Air Force 94 (Highest scoring non-German ace)

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http://en.wikipedia...._II_flying_aces

 

As you can see according to this table at wikipedia, to be just and fair, you should have all of these Luftwaffe pilots profiles in your 'Ace of the Month' publication - before you mention anymore small-time Aces from the allied air forces.

 

I just feel that there's a lot of negativity from the site content developers towards the Luftwaffe due to it in part beingof National Socialism.

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As you can see according to this table at wikipedia, to be just and fair, you should have all of these Luftwaffe pilots profiles in your 'Ace of the Month' publication - before you mention anymore small-time Aces from the allied air forces.

I would strongly suggest you develop your knowledge of the period before you dare describe anymore veterans as 'small time.' I would imagine I am speaking for the majority of the community when I say that I don't care what nation a veteran served during the conflict, I have respect for all they endured and all they achieved. I won't tolerate this level of disrespect towards any of these individuals. Consider that an unofficial warning before action is taken against you. 

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First 5 Aces are from main nations from WT. So 6th should be Ace from Italy.

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Hi guys, just a quick update - there might be a slight re-ordering of the next few aces for the Ace of the Month feature. As a result, my earlier statement of the next two features being Germany and then Japan might now not happen. I know this might be disappointing for those who favour these tech trees, but please do rest assured that every effort is being taken to include all of the major in-game nations and that research is well underway for Germany and Japan. However, we also need to make sure that we don't neglect the game's other nations, which is why we're currently discussing the running order of the next few aces. There haven't been any final decisions yet, but as soon as we know for sure I'll make sure you are informed. 

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Could always draw it out of a hat xD

 

But seriously, its good to hear you guys are putting the same amount of dedication and thought into this feature as with the rest of hte game.

 

 

Looking forward to how it develops. :salute:

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Hello guys,

       Here's a quick update on Ace of the Month:

 

- You can expect the next Ace article in the next one or two days. I'm afraid the German Ace article has been delayed until July.

- The reason is that we have currently been working towards representing all five of the main in game nations. A lot of people have contacted me and asked for biographies and features on aces from other nations, so this is something which was discussed higher up. The result was that the decision was taken to feature an ace from another nation outside of the main in game five. 

- To coincide with other features this month, June's featured ace is a French pilot.

- Coming back to German aces, I had actually began work on Hans Ulrich Rudel as the first German ace featured. However, the company is understandably reticent to celebrate and offer players the chance to re-enact the victories of an individual with strong National Socialist leanings. This decision has been made due to the potential offence it may cause in several nations in which War Thunder has a fan base and a community. As a result, Rudel will not be featured as a monthly ace. I might, however, be able to post an article here on the forums from my research, if anybody is still interested. 

- This still leaves us with the question of German aces. A first ace has been selected, written up and details of one of his aircraft passed on to the artists for a new skin, hopefully in July. I still welcome suggestions from you guys on aces you might wish to see featured, but please keep in mind that I have been instructed not to write up any individuals with a known National Socialist support and ethos.

 

In short, apologies to the German aircraft fan base and community for the delay, I'm doing all I can to try to make the July offer and feature bigger and better as a reward for your patience. Please keep the suggestions coming but don't use this thread as a place for political debate - the decision above has been made, it is final and I will be working within the constraints it demands for the foreseeable future. 

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Rudel is indeed a bit of a controversial figure (to put it mildly), despite that, he was one hell of a pilot, who caused major havoc.

My 2 cts is that it would be the "safest" to have Adolf Galland as first German ace, as he deemed to be a very polite man, who actually stood up against his superiors when asked to do inhumane things (like shooting bailed-out airmen), and who had a great respect for his enemies (the captured British ace Douglas Bader was even allowed to sit in his Me109, a plane equipped with a special holder for the cigar Galland always used to smoke) and became befriended with many British pilots after the war.

All that + the Me109E could benefit from an extra skin ;)

 

 

the potential offence it may cause in several nations in which War Thunder has a fan base and a community.

I think it's safe to assume that after seventy years most of the hostile feelings have gone now. I'm more offended by the "For Stalin*"-decal that is available in the game and the constant posting on these boards by the administration that "the Eastern Front was the biggest slaughterhouse in modern history, and that the great USSR singlehandedly won the Great Patriotic War, with the USAAF and RAF in minor, hardly mentionable sideroles" than having a spotlight on a German Ace.


* Stalin was an as bad person as the 3rd-Reich leaders were, who didn't eschew hard repression, terror and killed millions of civilians, often innocents. Yes, the history is written by the victors, but I'd be verrrrrrrrrrrrry cautious with the overgloryfication of Stalin. Despite being a victor, he's a controversial figure, and the glorification of him can be as potential offensive towards people in the countries that were forced into Warshaw-pact + Finland than that of a 3rd Reich-er...

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Eh. Id spout xxxx patriotism if I were playing germany. ZA STALINA! Doesnt really promote what he did, its mostly just 'for the glory of the motherland,' but strong, despotic leaders tend to have a very close position to the countries they rule. "I am the state."

Edit:Pfbftahaha, the forum censors the reichs parties name?  

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