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How to play Bombers?

Altitude is your best friend also for your gunner you him to be maxed out with CP and also if you have good teammates that will escort you that is even better. 

So yeah never fly low most people tend to do that, train up your gunner and crew and try to max out the gunner it really helps, ask teammates to escort you to the ground

targets. 

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Oh,is this your problem dear? Easy to solve,Just dont. Dont play bombers.. Not that Im against bombers but,Gaijin really fu**ed bombers so bad,there is no reason to play bombers at the moment. (unless you are a masochist)

I mean how a living human brain can give 6.3 br to b-17g. Or 6.0 br to lancaster..

In my opinion,all bombers except jets should get a 1-2 br lower br.

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In arcade ground strike, you generally will want to dive on the closest bombable ground units or base and pray you can get your bomb load away before you are shot down. If by some miracle, however, you can manage to climb and avoid being shot down, then you will have a good game and rake in the lions & RP.

 

In arcade domination, you generally will want to quit and not bother with bombers.

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In arcade, bombers have a roll. enjoy dying a lot but....at least you get another spawn

 

In RB, bombers are a wasted slot that a fighter could have been in.

 

Make no mistake, RB is a death match....

The team that kills wins.

Bombs do little in RB.

 

So do your team a favor in RB and drop the bomber and get into a fighter.

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I mean how a living human brain can give 6.3 br to b-17g. Or 6.0 br to lancaster..

 

The same brain that was responsible for the BR system at all, for the 500 GE for the flag decals, for the xxxxxxx up most of the cannons, and etc...

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Right now, the bombers are a 2-trick pony.

 

1.  you climb.  Hard. From the start.  Even side climb (to the edge of the map) and then fly back to your targets while STILL climbing.  However.  There are plenty of fighters that WILL still outclimb you and wait for you.  So, if you're into the slow flying thing, takes 5 mins + just to get out of range.  And always keep climbing.  Problem is, by the time you do that, most ground targets are dead, so you're only bombing the base.  IF you're lucky.

 

2.  Ground attack at tree level.  This is, obviously, a 1 way mission and you're lucky to reload 2-3 times, ESPECIALLY in some bombers, like the Welly / B-17s.  This is more luck than anything.  You pretty much dive, level out at 600 feet and start bombing your ground targets, again, IF you're lucky to have made it TO them.  I usually get 10-30 ground kills PER battle, but you really have to fly like a xxxx to make yourself the hardest target to hit.  Flying in a straight line is doom.  So you have to do the "wave" (up / down constantly), turn like crazy, weave, crab sideways, and so on.  But again, anything you bomb after the first reload is a bonus, so don't expect it.  You also have to be GOOD at bombing and "estimating" on moving targets, so you have to time your crazy flying with shrinking your bomb reticle at the last moment AND leading any moving target with your cargo.  Otherwise, you can always stick to pillboxes and AA / Howitzers, but your useless teammates in fighters will usually kill the AA / Howitzers for you.

 

Btw, I'm speaking for Arcade battles only.

 

And yes, MAX out your gunners as quickly as possible.  Aiming / Firing, as well as their survivability.  Max out your reload speed as much as you can.  Always upgrade your bomber crews to "Expert" at least, it makes a BIG difference from Basic.

 

US bombers do rather well in this regard, they can take punishment AND dish out .50 cal punishment.  UK bombers are utterly bad, so you're really lucky to reload twice.  RU bombers are survivable, but defensive armament sucks. Japanese bombers are crazy maneuverable, so you MIGHT get lucky to stay alive longer at tree level.  But their bomb loads are low.  Germany is a mixed bag, depending on the bomber.

 

Bombers / Bomber meta is utterly broken at the moment, so you pretty much have to find your own style to maximize your fun.  But don't expect much.  I get the bomber's out of the way first in my lineup (allows the battle to "settle" down" after the initial rush), hopefully with enough ground kills to research the next upgrade.  Then switch to fighters and have fun.

 

Attackers like the Havoc / DB-7 / A20G / HS129 / Mitchells and a few others are slightly different animals, so they take a certain skill and play style to have fun with.  But again, at the moment, just try different things until you find what works for you.

 

P.S.  Might wanna change your handle before someone from the Mods tells you to.

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How to play? Not to play. Simplest rule...

 

I've wasted a lot of time playing bombers... And I love 'em.

But after last nerfs what can you do?

US Tree: SBD, TBF, A20G and B25 are nice

UK Tree: Premium Wirraway is funny, Havoc/DB7/Boston are great, Wellis and Lancaster suckcs with current MM.

Germans: Ju87, Do217... Take Ju87D5 for mixed battle and show iwan tankers - that any RNG won't save em from 1000kg of pure nazism  :Ds

japanese: IMO nothing to do here... Funny, but not for long time

Iwans: Pe2, Tu2 are nice, SB2M are OP, IŁ-4 with heaviest load (2000kg?) can on HB outturn BF109 easily  :crazy:

 

TL:DR Don't play heavy and jet bombers, lvl up your crew and you're fine

 

@smokemaker: No? If fighters aren't total idiots, squad or even single Boston or B25J1 etc can easilly win game for ya...

OFC fighters must think - last battle played 3x B25. We lost - when we were capturing last zone (with about 10x ground advantage) last man standing was P63. He was left vs Wellington and Spitfire. We with almost all tickets, US with 54 tickets dropping... What has P63 did? Rammed Spit on H2H  :good:

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You need to upgrade your gunners skills. When being chased from behind you should point the nose of your plane upwards so your gunner has a better chance at hitting the target, unless of course your target is above you. Also, at the beginning of the round, ask for an escort or 2, you'll be surprised at the willingness by others to escort you. If that doesn't work then find another bomber and follow him. Altitude is your friend. good luck 

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ARe there any bombers left that dont explode as soon as you look at them? I cant imagine playing hiertier right now.

Nope. Once you're on fire, you either cut engine power and DIVE (if you have the altitude), or pretty much do as much damage as you can before you crash.

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How to play? Not to play. Simplest rule...

 

I've wasted a lot of time playing bombers... And I love 'em.

But after last nerfs what can you do?

US Tree: SBD, TBF, A20G and B25 are nice

UK Tree: Premium Wirraway is funny, Havoc/DB7/Boston are great, Wellis and Lancaster suckcs with current MM.

Germans: Ju87, Do217... Take Ju87D5 for mixed battle and show iwan tankers - that any RNG won't save em from 1000kg of pure nazism  :Ds

japanese: IMO nothing to do here... Funny, but not for long time

Iwans: Pe2, Tu2 are nice, SB2M are OP, IŁ-4 with heaviest load (2000kg?) can on HB outturn BF109 easily  :crazy:

 

TL:DR Don't play heavy and jet bombers, lvl up your crew and you're fine

 

@smokemaker: No? If fighters aren't total idiots, squad or even single Boston or B25J1 etc can easilly win game for ya...

OFC fighters must think - last battle played 3x B25. We lost - when we were capturing last zone (with about 10x ground advantage) last man standing was P63. He was left vs Wellington and Spitfire. We with almost all tickets, US with 54 tickets dropping... What has P63 did? Rammed Spit on H2H  :good:

 

"@smokemaker: No? If fighters aren't total idiots, squad or even single Boston or B25J1 etc can easilly win game for ya...

OFC fighters must think - last battle played 3x B25. We lost - when we were capturing last zone (with about 10x ground advantage) last man standing was P63. He was left vs Wellington and Spitfire. We with almost all tickets, US with 54 tickets dropping... What has P63 did? Rammed Spit on H2H"

 

Sure a bomber once in awhile does something.

And organized bombers sometimes show up.

 

Like 1 out of 50 matches maybe.....

 

In RB, bombers are empty slots 99.99% of the time.

That is why i do not fly the USA tree.....

Too many bombers.

Germans on the other hand have crap bombers.

So you see teams of mainly fighters {thumbs up}.

 

Next patch, USA going on losing streaks for a bit until the new bomber wears off.

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It depends form pilot IMO.

Trust me - bomber who can play can decide the score of match...

But 99% of them are newbies w/o trained crew - who wanna have mouse aim and moar guns...

German bombers are crap? Wouldn't say... Haven't played Do217 - but it's an excellent blitz bomber (like Boston).

Got nice bombload... Just fly at high speed to target then turnback. Speed is your life!

Ju87 is perfect bomber for mixed games. When D-5 will finally get its historical airbrakes + 1000kg and 1800kg bombs it may be the killer  :secret:

 

B29? Don't tell me anything about it... B17G got higher BR too... Until GJ remodell gameplay they'll be useless...

Where B29 will be able to start? Who will use B29 to bomb few tents 20km form airfield?

GJ will do the same like with F84 - instead of remodelling airfields (to make em look more like IRL) they will add spawn at 100m  :facepalm:

So to conclude... Random bombers often are wasting slots, but a bomber who knows how-to is the key to win.

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So basically bombers are **** now? Is there any ETA for buffs? I Found them really fun when they were tanky but it feels like even a friggin T1 Biplane takes more hits.

 

 

For bombers to be buffed, they had to be decent in real life.

 

Bombers were cannon fodder, and the only way to operate those was in large number, with good air support, at large altitude, in certain time of day or weather conditions, preferably with intelligence helping you avoid enemy planes.

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For bombers to be buffed, they had to be decent in real life.

 

Bombers were cannon fodder, and the only way to operate those was in large number, with good air support, at large altitude, in certain time of day or weather conditions, preferably with intelligence helping you avoid enemy planes.

 

None of which is possible with WT today. So the alternative is either to modify the gameplay or modify the planes. You are going down the wrong track by using the realism arguement, especially in AB. WT moved away from making the game authentic a little while back.

 

 

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The same brain that was responsible for the BR system at all, for the 500 GE for the flag decals, for the xxxxxxx up most of the cannons, and etc...

 

same brain that decided that 98% of all AB matches are won by killing ground targets, and not other planes?

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Altitude, don't fly directly to the target (that's the only way I don't get intercepted in my Stuka during the current eastern europe/poland event), try to play sim so they can't see you from 10km away.

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So do high tier bombers serve no purpose right now?

Sure they do, they are free kills for enemy fighters and when they are on fire, it looks great :D

 

But in a more serious manner:Avoid bombers in higher tiers(up from late tier 3 or for the better, bombers with a BR higher then 4.0) since you won't have any fun.

Only three exceptions in my opinions is the B25/PBJ's since they are quite maneuverable, have decent defensive armament(don't show enemies your belly though) and have offensive armament.

Then there is the IL-28...if you know how to handle it, this thing blasts enemy jets out of the sky...but it takes a while to get there, it is expensive and has a high repair bill.

 

I don't know about the G8N1 though because i havent unlocked it but B17/B17G/B24/Lancaster/Wellingtons are the worst thing to fly at the moment.

I have not managed to drop a single bomb on an enemy base in my B17's in since 1.45 so yeah, you better stay out of it.

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My advice:
AB- Spawn in a fighter and kill any fighters sitting at high alt and/or wait till about halfway through the match, most fighters will be at low alt or dead then Spawn in your bomber, stay at high altitude = profit??? (This is from my personal experience in AB when at Tier III or below, I wouldn't bother with tier IV bombing)

RB- Don't go for bases, ground targets are more profitable and you have a higher chance of not being spotted and shot down, so spawn with preferably 500lb bombs or 1000lb bombs. You can carry more 500lb bombs (about 250kg?)But they are best for soft targets. 1000lb bombs (about 500Kg?) Are effective at killing tanks and pillboxes but you carry less of them (tanks and pillboxes net more score however) When you spawn, DIVE, use the dive to get you the speed to reach ground targets, you need to use common sense here, spot the target to go after but if you travel in a straight line towards it you'll end up going through the centre of the map, which will gain unwanted attention and you'll die, so avoid the centre of the map, go around. This tactic with the Welly may be hard though, as it mainly suits professional lawnmowers like the B-25 and others

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