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Ilyushin IL-22


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  1. 1. Do you support the Ilyushin IL-22 being added into War Thunder?

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Ilyushin IL-22

This aircraft has never been suggested so here it is, the Ilyushin IL-22.
It would be a good early Soviet jet bomber for War Thunder by: being a competitor to the Arado 234, giving the USSR more types of different jet bombers, and being historically the first ever Soviet jet bomber to fly.
 

The Council of Ministers ordered the Ilyushin design bureau on 12 February 1946 to begin work on a bomber that would use four of the new TR-1 jet engines. Experiences with the first generation of jet fighters had revealed unsuspected problems involved with high-speed flight and Ilyushin devoted a lot of effort to mitigate them. The long, thin unswept wing was conventional in appearance, but it was shaped to improve lateral stability at high angles of attack and to prevent the onset of tip stall.

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Another problem discovered by the jet fighters was unexpectedly dropping a wing at high speeds and high altitudes. This was traced to manufacturing defects in the wings that made no difference at low speeds and altitudes, but meant that each wing had a slightly different airfoil and hence, a different amount of lift. To counter this Sergey Ilyushin and his team developed a new manufacturing technique that reversed the traditional practice where the internal supporting members were affixed to the assembly jig and the aircraft's skin panels were then attached. This new method meant that the skin panels were placed in the jigs where the correct curvature and shape could be guaranteed and the internal structure was then fastened to them. This required that manufacturing joints be used along the chord lines of the wings and tail surfaces, which split the spars and ribs in half. Similarly the fuselage built the same way, although it was split vertically along the centerline. This new technique did impose a small weight penalty, but had the unexpected advantage of greatly accelerating the assembly process as the internal equipment could be installed before the halves were joined together. This allowed several teams to work on a single sub-assembly before they were mated.

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Most of the other multi-engined jet aircraft in existence when the Il-22 was being designed either had the engines in a nacelle (singly or in pairs) directly attached to the underside of wing or were buried in the wing itself. Clustering them in a nacelle offered several advantages over individual nacelles as it reduced overall drag and minimized interference drag, but had the major operational disadvantage that an uncontained fire in one engine could disable its neighbors as well and the early jet engines were not paragons of reliability so this was a significant risk. Ilyushin chose to put the TR-1 engines ahead and below the wing leading edge on short horizontal pylons. This gave them the beneficial effect of acting as anti-flutter weights and proved to be more efficient aerodynamically than underwing nacelles. This also facilitated engine changes and maintenance by making them more accessible to the ground crews.

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Neither the thin wing nor the engine nacelles offered any place to store the main landing gear so the fuselage was designed as a flattened oval to give them as wide a track as possible. This also provided plenty of room for the 9,300 kg (20,500 lb) of fuel stored in three bags, one each ahead, above and behind the bomb bay. This could carry up to 3,000 kg (6,600 lb) of bombs. The fuselage nose was largely glazed and came to a point, much like the noses of the Boeing B-29 Superfortress, Heinkel He 111 and Arado Ar 234, to reduce drag. The Il-22 had a crew of five, two pilots in the nose, the bombardier-navigator in front of them in the tip of the nose, the dorsal gunner/radio operator immediately behind the pilots and the rear turret gunner behind the tail.

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A 23-millimetre (0.91 in) Nudelman-Suranov NS-23 autocannon with 150 rounds was fixed on the lower starboard side of the nose; it was fired by the pilot who had a primitive ring sight to use for aiming. The dorsal turret mounted two 20-millimetre (0.79 in) Berezin B-20E guns with 400 rounds per gun and was capable of almost 360° of traverse; special microswitches prevented the gunner from firing into the bomber's tail. The turret was remotely controlled by the radio operator and was powered by electric motors for both traverse and elevation. The gunner and his gunsight, used a small observation blister at the rear of the main crew compartment to lay the guns on their target. The sight automatically compensated for parallax between the gunner and the turret as well as the required amount of target lead and the shell's ballistics. The remote-control system offered several advantages including a smaller turret that had less drag, the guns could be fixed more rigidly to their mounts, the sight was not exposed to vibrations from firing and could track targets more smoothly and the gunner's comfort did not have to be sacrificed to optimize the performance of the turret. The major disadvantage, of course, was that the remote control system was exceedingly complicated for the period and prone to breaking down. The rear gunner was placed at the very tail of the Il-22 to optimize his field of fire in an electro-hydraulically powered Il-KU3 turret that mounted another NS-23 cannon. The turret could traverse a total of 140°, elevate 35° and depress 30°.


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Specifications

General:

Length:
21.05 m (69 ft 1 in)
Wingspan: 23.06 m (75 ft 8 in)
Wing area: 74.5 m2 (802 sq ft)
Empty weight: 14,950 kg (32,959 lb)
Gross weight: 20,000 kg (44,092 lb) (design target 24,000 kg (53,000 lb))
Fuel capacity: 9,300 kg (20,500 lb)
Powerplant: 4 × Lyul'ka TR-1 axial flow turbojet, 12.75 kN (2,870 lbf) thrust each

Performance:
 
Maximum speed: 656.5 km/h (408 mph; 354 kn) at sea level
705 km/h (438 mph; 381 kn) at 5,000 m (16,000 ft)
718 km/h (446 mph; 388 kn) at 7,000 m (23,000 ft)
Landing Speed: 190 km/h (120 mph; 100 kn)
Landing Run: 940 m (3,080 ft)
Take-off Run: 1,144 m (3,753 ft)
Cruising speed: 485 km/h (301 mph; 262 kn)
Range: 865 km (537 mi; 467 nmi) with 2,000 kg (4,400 lb) of bombs, at 4,900 m (16,100 ft) at 485 km/h (301 mph; 262 kn)
Service ceiling: 11,100 m (36,417 ft)
Time to altitude: 5,000 m (16,000 ft) in 8.6 minutes, 8,000 m (26,000 ft) in 17.4 minutes
Armament
 
Weapons:
 
1 x fixed, forward-firing 23 mm (0.906 in) Nudelman-Suranov NS-23
2 x 20 mm (0.787 in) Berezin B-20E gun in the dorsal turret
1 x 23 mm (0.906 in) NS-23 gun in the rear turret
Bombs: Normal 2,000 kg (4,400 lb), Maximum 3,000 kg (6,600 lb)

Blueprints And Other Reference Images:

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Sources:

http://alternathistory.org.ua/pervenets-reaktivnykh-ilov-frontovoi-bombardirovshchik-il-22

http://ram-home.com/ram-old/il-22.html

http://www.aviastar.org/air/russia/il-22.php

http://www.airwar.ru/enc/bomber/il22.html

http://www.luxavia.ru/item/107

http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww3/b/1373/1/0

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilyushin_Il-22

http://www.anigrand.com/AA2092_Il-22.htm

http://www.snariad.ru/bomb/il-22/

http://www.arms.ru/air/il22.htm

http://aeroplan2010.mirtesen.ru/blog/43424545842/Opyitnyiy-dalniy-bombardirovschik-Il-22-(SSSR)

http://ilyushin.org/press/news/ev2390/

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No thanks, ussr has enough jets, plus ussr are getting the il-28 any way, armed with its twin 23mm cannons front and rear it already outclasses the other nations jet bombers.

Not to be mean but it was only a prototype as well, we don't need anymore prototypes unless they're absolutely neccessary
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No thanks, ussr has enough jets, plus ussr are getting the il-28 any way, armed with its twin 23mm cannons front and rear it already outclasses the other nations jet bombers.
Not to be mean but it was only a prototype as well, we don't need anymore prototypes unless they're absolutely neccessary


The USSR has many jets at the moment, but so will other nations once the game is fully released. And the USSR will have only one jet bomber, the IL 28. It's not a lot of variety...

The IL 28 is only one Soviet jet bomber, which won't even be in the main Soviet bomber tree. The IL 28 is after the IL 2.

And prototypes are better than paper planes. Lol Just look at the German paper plane suggestions and then this.
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It would be a good early Soviet jet bomber for War Thunder by: being a competitor to the Arado 234

 

 

Arado: nr. of guns = 0

IL-22: nr. of guns = 2x 20mm + 2x 23mm

 

:dntknw:

 

I think it might create a bit of "unrest" in the player ranks... ;)s

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Arado: nr. of guns = 0
IL-22: nr. of guns = 2x 20mm + 2x 23mm
 
:dntknw:
 
I think it might create a bit of "unrest" in the player ranks... ;)s


The IL-22 has four engines and is about 90 km slower than the arado 234. The IL-22's guns compensate the IL-22 for being slower. So both planes have different strengths, yet are equal competitors.
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The USSR has many jets at the moment, but so will other nations once the game is fully released. And the USSR will have only one jet bomber, the IL 28. It's not a lot of variety...
The IL 28 is only one Soviet jet bomber, which won't even be in the main Soviet bomber tree. The IL 28 is after the IL 2.
And prototypes are better than paper planes. Lol Just look at the German paper plane suggestions and then this.

Russia will also have the Tu14

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Russia will also have the Tu14

The Tu 14 would be the second bomber on the release tree. It might go somewhere around the IL-28 or in the main jet bomber line. It would still just be two look alike bombers for the USSR. Even with the IL-28 in the attacker line and the TU-14 (the failed IL-28 competitor) the IL-22 would still have a place in the Soviet tree line before any those two aircraft.

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Funny how you people keep ending up actually ramming them at the end

Hahaha, I notice it every time and I love it...

"The (Insert some bomber name) is going to be food for my (insert favorite fighter name.)"

Later on:

*runs out of ammo trying to shoot bomber from far away*
*goes for the ram*
*clips his own wing off*
*Bomber survives*

xD
 

 

Now it would be fun if America and Germany got 4 engine jet bomber I would be happy oh also forgot on the last version of F-86-F-2 Saber we should be able to put on the wing tips blue ones.

According to the release tree, Germany is getting the Arado 234 C-3 four engine bomber.

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Yes please looks good and can act as precursor to Il-28.

I agree with you. The Il-28 is way too powerful for low tier mixed jet and prop battles. The Il-28 is untouchable by every prop, and every early jet. The Il-22 should replace the Il-28's BR, while the Il-28 will have a higher BR.

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I agree with you. The Il-28 is way too powerful for low tier mixed jet and prop battles. The Il-28 is untouchable by every prop, and every early jet. The Il-22 should replace the Il-28's BR, while the Il-28 will have a higher BR.

Yeah the only plane that might have a prayer of catching it would be F-89

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Yeah the only plane that might have a prayer of catching it would be F-89

So pretty much every early jet from Germany and Japan can't catch the IL-28, while every single early jet from the allies catches the Arado 234 easily.
 

 

God no, another IL-28? My Beercan has had enough!11

Ehh, what the heck

 

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This will be a lower BR bomber to replace the IL-28's BR so that matches will be balanced. Because every prop and early jet can't catch the IL-28 in every single game, while everything can easily catch the Arado 234. The IL-28 will get a higher BR.

Thank you for your support.

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