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SB settings for people who use only Mouse and Keyboard

HI if you are like me..  you like..  or you would like to play FRB mode of this game ..but you only have mouse and keyboard... and that is where your problems start... 

 

I was like you when I started to play this game.. I simply did not have money to buy joystick ...not to mention head-tracking plus all extras ... but with a lot of effort and

 

testing I was able to  set up a controls that enebeld me to play this game pretty good even using only Mouse and Keyboard.. Now I would like to share my settings with

 

other wonabe FRB players so you all can enjoy  this game as much as Gaijin will alow you to ....

 

 

 

NOW I will set a few screen-shots of my seethings and try to explain it at best of my possibles

 

 

i hope you will be  able to set controls.... things you see in your Menu /  Control / Full Aircraft Controls  might not look as in my pictures but basic set up should be the same.....

 

example ( some things like Yaw Axis , Pitch ..might not be in same place  as on my  picture ) and some times Roll,Yaw and Pitch sensitivity dont even appear)

 

if that happens just continue they will appear latter :)

 

 

 

some controls Like Basic Controls  and View Controls are divided on more( mostly two)  screenshots  coz  they simply cant fit  on one .

 

 

First you go in Menu / Controls / Basic

 

 

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and this is second part of basic controles

 

Flaps Down(F) and Flaps up(V)  but you can set them as you like :D I use this settings coz in some situation (like trying to make enemy overshoot while you both are at low speed) landing flaps can help you 

 

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focus here is on Aim sensitivity  and Aim control sensitivity

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ok now very important ..this will help you not to stall and spin when you do sudden maneuvers in FRB

 

This too is in Menu / Controls / Basic / Full Aircraft Controls

 

 

 

In basic Controls you find  Roll Axis and you Double click it 

 

than set controls there as in this picture

 

 

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After you do that again in Basic Controls right below Roll Axis you see Pitch  Axis

 

Double click it and set controls like this

 

 

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below that again you can see Yaw Axis

 

again double click it and set controls like this 

 

 

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ok  plus Roll , Pitch and Yaw sensitivity need to be like this

 

 

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Next just after Basic controls you have  Full Aerodynamics 

 

i usualy trim my elevator at 3%-9% depending of plane ..it helps you to do a loop ....a simple move that is usualy imposible to do  for Mouse players

 

other trims are often  usefull if you are damaged .... For triming I use my NumPad ..Numbers (8,5,2 for elevator trim) (9,6,3 for aileron trim) and ( 7,4,1 for ruder trim)

 

Example for elevator TRIM ( when I press 8 I rase elevator when I press 2 I lower it and with number 5 I reset my elevator Trim to Zero).

 

NOTE:( Some planes dont have Ruder or Aileron Trim)

 

 

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Next Chapter Engine Controls  ... this is a little advance if you know how to use this  it can really help you if you overheat your engine even to climb or dive faster ..

 

 

example if you want to cool your engine you open your radiator at 100 % if you need more speed you close your radiator ( 0%) and increase your Propeler Pitch at 100%  

your engine cant work like that for a long but in those tricky situation it can mean difference between life and death 

 

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View Controls 

 

 this is my proudest achievements ..

 

with this you will be able to look your 6 even in 109 :)

 

in my settings i use Y,X,C keys to move my head in cocpit so i can see as good as any guy with head tracking 

 

on this picture i pres X...combined with Space (Mouse activation look)

 

 [attachment=92149:X.jpg]post-394463-0-04441000-1407335177_thumb.

 

 

and this is how you need to set controls to be able to do this ( on first picture you still cant see that completley)

 

 

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but on this second one you can see Y,X,C bindings on bottom

 

 

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i hope you will be  able to set controls.... after you do that and try to Finish  ( trying to  go out of Controls) you press OK in down right corner

 

( Right form Assign Button ) and then you will see this

 

 

 

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ok dont panic...everything is fine just press Continue Anyway ...and you are done :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have put down some settings for you to download ,keep in mind to download last version coz that one is most advance ,and will give you best preformance.

 

 

 

POST  patch 1.47   <======== THE NEWEST   

 

Settings-for-WT.blk

 

 

One more thing you might have different keyboard so mine Z and Y key position might be differnt from your's

 

here is how my keyboard looks like 

 

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if you need more speed you close your radiator ( 0%) and increase your Propeler Pitch at 100%

Prop pitch at 100% sets your prop to push the least amount of air, it's angled with the turning of the prop.  Prop pitch set to 0% pushes the most amount of air and is angled against the turning of the prop.  At max throttle you normally do want your pitch set to 100%, but setting it to 90% will give you more push/speed and for most planes is the minimum you want to do.  If you set it lower your RPMs will go down and your engine will be working too hard and wont last long.  Some planes you can go as low as 80% before it's a detriment, but most it's 90%.

 

If your engine is dead and you need to glide farther you can set your prop pitch to 0% because it'll turn the blades to be in line with the flow of the air giving you less resistance.

 

Some planes have "auto prop pitch".  If you are in a plane that seems like it wont let you set the pitch manually, it may be because you also need to toggle the auto prop pitch off.  So you'll need to set a key for manual engine controls, plus a key for toggling auto prop pitch, plus two keys or an axis to set the pitch.

 

Some planes have a prop feathering option, this allows the prop to turn freely apart from your throttle.  This will also aid you in gliding farther and should set your pitch to 0% as well.

 

On most planes your prop pitch lever is next to your throttle lever.  When running in auto engine controls watch these two levers as you adjust your throttle.  You'll see that the auto controls keep the pitch lever farther than the throttle.  When you're at 50% throttle your pitch might be set to 70% and by about 80% throttle and up your pitch lever will be at or near 100%. 

 

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_pitch

 

 

Blade pitch acts much like the gearing of the final drive of a car. Low pitch yields good low speed acceleration (and climb rate in an aircraft) while high pitch optimizes high speed performance and economy.

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Feathering the blades of a propeller means to increase their angle of pitch by turning the blades to be parallel to the airflow. This minimizes drag from a stopped propeller following an engine failure in flight.

 

 

In the Ki-84 you can close your radiator and run max throttle/WEP with a prop pitch of 82% and it makes a good difference and it'll run like that for quite a while before overheating.  In most other planes this will cause you to overheat too quickly and loose speed do to the strain on the engine.

 

Also note that some planes when in manual engine control mode require you to also adjust your mixture, so be careful.  This is not a one-size-fits-all sort of thing.

 

I hope this helps some people who do want to attempt the more advanced manual controls :)

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You're welcome :)  I found an image that shows prop pitch, but "lower" and "higher" pitch is reversed in this image:

ms9.jpg

 

In War Thunder the pitch %'s are reversed, "LOWER PITCH" in this image would be closer to 100%, while the "HIGHER PITCH" would be closer to 0%.  Regardless, it still illustrates what's changing concerning your propeller when you change it's pitch.

 

Here's what 0% and/or prop feathering looks like:

Prop_feather.jpg

 

When in actual feathering your engine is disconnected from your prop and it's able to turn freely based on air flow.  As you can see, if your engine were dead you would want your props angled like this (0% / feathering) so you have the least resistance for gliding farther.

 

 

And this is what your prop would look like at 100% in War Thunder:

 

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It provides the least amount of resistance to your engine when turning the prop, but if your engine were dead it would give you the most resistance to air flow when trying to glide.

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As I decided today to switch back to FRB, and I don't have my joystick and trackIR here, I went and used your profile. Thanks.

 

Obviously I tweaked it a little to cater to my own needs, but there's one thing I was wondering about: your profile is using something called, iirc, simplfied mouse joy. Apparently what this does is link the use of rudder to the one of ailerons, which I understand is probably better when it comes to aiming, but it does introduce a whole bunch of "instructor-like" stuff: inability to fly inverted, inability to perform loops (!), and basically hinders your control over the aircraft by a large margin. I myself couldn't fly like this.

Did you know about this, is this a deliberate choice? If so, what are the reasons?

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Still cant understand why people prefer mouse view over control with buttons, but well.

 

I used qwes for view, with rel. control on, and 25% rel. control step.

You can change the direction you look towards very fast, and can still see all around you (which is why you dont use 50%), and can steer while looking around.

When keeping the button pressed you can control your view more precice, which is nice as well.

 

I used shift + qwesd for head movement, and no rel. control for that.

 

 

As I decided today to switch back to FRB, and I don't have my joystick and trackIR here, I went and used your profile. Thanks.

 

Obviously I tweaked it a little to cater to my own needs, but there's one thing I was wondering about: your profile is using something called, iirc, simplfied mouse joy. Apparently what this does is link the use of rudder to the one of ailerons, which I understand is probably better when it comes to aiming, but it does introduce a whole bunch of "instructor-like" stuff: inability to fly inverted, inability to perform loops (!), and basically hinders your control over the aircraft by a large margin. I myself couldn't fly like this.

Did you know about this, is this a deliberate choice? If so, what are the reasons?

AfaIk, thats a different setting.

Simplified MJS is useless, more so for fighters, unless you dont want to learn how to fly, imo.

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As I decided today to switch back to FRB, and I don't have my joystick and trackIR here, I went and used your profile. Thanks.

 

Obviously I tweaked it a little to cater to my own needs, but there's one thing I was wondering about: your profile is using something called, iirc, simplfied mouse joy. Apparently what this does is link the use of rudder to the one of ailerons, which I understand is probably better when it comes to aiming, but it does introduce a whole bunch of "instructor-like" stuff: inability to fly inverted, inability to perform loops (!), and basically hinders your control over the aircraft by a large margin. I myself couldn't fly like this.

Did you know about this, is this a deliberate choice? If so, what are the reasons?

Tnx man i am still working on this settings and I try to improve them as much as i can . 

I had big problems making loops it takes a lot of skill and practice time to be able to Loop with my settings i did not know why does aircraft fights me so much when i try but now ,tnx to you i know

 

i am gona try to improve controls to give you more freedom in controling the plane while holding on to be able to aim  ,coz for me aiming is most important ,you can do all loops you want but if your aim is wrong and you can't get a hit on enemy sooner or latter you are dead

 

if you or anybody else has any advice i will look at it and try to improve my settings so one day anybody who wants to play FRB with no Joystick ect can do it .

I am doing this in hope of increasing our player base ,coz todays in-game settings are not really good and they make a lot of people quit.

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What kind of keyboard do you use btw? It's kinda hard to visualise where your fingers go. Link me an image or something, as an Australian I use a standard QWERTY layout that is also commonly used in America

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What kind of keyboard do you use btw? It's kinda hard to visualise where your fingers go. Link me an image or something, as an Australian I use a standard QWERTY layout that is also commonly used in America

Tnx man I didn't thought about that

here is picture

 

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i hope it helps ,  if you find my settings useful or you have any idea on how to improve them PM me

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Thank you sooooo much for this config. It's f*cking amazing.

 

I quit flying sim with my joystick when my trackIR broke but this has made sim a bit more playable. 

 

 

I'ma go murder people in my G-10 now. 

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Thank you sooooo much for this config. It's f*cking amazing.

 

I quit flying sim with my joystick when my trackIR broke but this has made sim a bit more playable. 

 

 

I'ma go murder people in my G-10 now. 

Tnx I am glad you found it helpfull Soon I will post new even more advanced settings...

But I would like to ask  if you have any advice on Config and was it hard for you to get used on it??

Plus did you find it hard to download files (confg) and implement them??

 

I am trying to make this more user frendly ..as much as it's possible.

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If possible, I advise you to put your configuration in the first post. That way newbies who cbf scrolling down through the chatter can find your config immediately.
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Ok, stupid question: Where do I copy-paste the config? I'm XP user, installed the game on E partition, but I found in Documents -> Games -> War Thunder -> profile.config.blk. Is that ok?

 

 

Oh, never mind, I discovered I can Import file with Control wizard ingame.

Thanks, this is awesome!

 

 

Wow! Finally I can play simulator!!!!!!!!!

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I guess they've changed how the config files work ? RMB is binded for both cannons and rockets .. that have no sense.

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