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#41 _EDF_WWladCZ

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Posted 18 January 2014 - 09:36 PM

This plane is declared UFO it shot me down in my D-13 I was not turning. He did some xxxx turns and then negated 2 KM like nothing.


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Posted 18 January 2014 - 09:53 PM

I don't know if it's a UFO (and everything can climb stupidly well in arcade due to the whole lack of stalling) so I wouldn't really call it that, but between its demonstrably overpowered rate of climb, and its firepower is very strong for its overall performance for the BR, though that's a tad more subjective.


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Posted 18 January 2014 - 09:58 PM

I haven't tested its turn rate, but feels like it turns VERY well, possibly Spitfire level. Energy retention appears to be very good too, as does high speed handling.

 

The plane is honestly a La-5FN on steroids, and is just ridiculously overpowered.


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#44 Hopeasusi

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Posted 18 January 2014 - 11:49 PM

I haven't tested its turn rate, but feels like it turns VERY well, possibly Spitfire level. Energy retention appears to be very good too, as does high speed handling.

 

The plane is honestly a La-5FN on steroids, and is just ridiculously overpowered.

Why everyone seems to forget it's god like dive performance with no control stiffening to speak of. Even more so, because it came in the 1.37 that brought new FMs with proper levels of control stiffening in high speeds. Somehow this UFO didn't get any of this, placeholder FM anyone?

 

At least I hope this is the case. 


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Posted 18 January 2014 - 11:53 PM

Why everyone seems to forget it's god like dive performance with no control stiffening to speak of. Even more so, because it came in the 1.37 that brought new FMs with proper levels of control stiffening in high speeds. Somehow this UFO didn't get any of this, placeholder FM anyone?

 

At least I hope this is the case. 

But it red lines at 670 and has control stiffening. 

 

 

How is this great dive performance?


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Posted 19 January 2014 - 08:54 AM

 

 

The M82 engined version used a very reliable engine (the M82 engine..). This is the one we have ingame. It is in the main tree because of planes like the Ki-200, 190D9, F86F-2 etc.

 

the D-9 was mass produced dora versions!

 and the m-82 may have been reliable but so was the B-17 engines on the b-17 but on the XP-50 they over heated. same as the I-185M-82


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Posted 19 January 2014 - 02:00 PM

Why everyone seems to forget it's god like dive performance with no control stiffening to speak of. Even more so, because it came in the 1.37 that brought new FMs with proper levels of control stiffening in high speeds. Somehow this UFO didn't get any of this, placeholder FM anyone?

 

At least I hope this is the case. 

i have done a dive test from 7K and got engine stoped working so it's not god like , same after i find myself chasing a Yer in a dive same **** happened 


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Posted 20 January 2014 - 02:55 PM

Last time I checked this a simply a game. You guys and wanting it historically accurate need to really relax and enjoy the game for what it is. You can't relive ww2 here sorry.

 

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Posted 20 January 2014 - 03:26 PM

Who gives a s***!

 

Just be glad we have many planes in the game.


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#50 NevirSayDie

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Posted 20 January 2014 - 08:09 PM

If it's better than other planes in its BR, move it up or nerf it. If not, leave it as it is. 

 

Why must balancing be so complicated? 


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Posted 20 January 2014 - 10:19 PM

Didn't they do the same thing with the MiG-15, saying it was original MiG-15 even though it was performing like the bis. And when confronted with test results, they still refused to acknowledge that it performed like the bis till some time later when they changed the name to MiG-15bis and added the MiG-15.


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#52 Cyberbeer

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Posted 20 January 2014 - 10:57 PM

That first video was the most annoying thing I have seen this year.


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Posted 22 January 2014 - 08:05 AM

I'm already starting to get tired of seeing this so-called uber plane in this game.


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Posted 22 January 2014 - 08:20 AM

A confrontation with the plane in game would solely dictate the results: it will shoot you down.
Once I was in a Bf109 F4, and found him climbing up while I was diving down to get to the rest of the pack. Was chasing a bomber in 6k and my F4 is fully upgraded. The I spot him and decided to change and climb up. To my surprise, he was still chatching up with me, AFTER CLIMBING to 4k where I spotted him, and I had 500IAS. I quickly did a 90 degree and rushed under cloud cover. He noticed it and came after, I climbed, and to my surprise he was magically doing a headon, while I am diving and he was climbing at 25 degrees. He missed, as I dodged it, and he tuned around. TO MY ABSOLUTE SURPRISE, he was STILL catching up, closing in 700m. I made sure that no flaps, gear or anything that will slow me down is deployed. Then a vertical dive down to the ground. What BS is the OP energy retention? Germans have way better dive and climb speed. The M-82 was not superior to German engines. You ever see a La-UFO doing that with the same M-82? It tuned like a zero and outdove a I-185 while still retaining energy after turning? Physically impossible, also given that the I-185 wasn't really made as streamlined as a bomb.
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Posted 22 January 2014 - 10:22 AM

A confrontation with the plane in game would solely dictate the results: it will shoot you down.
Once I was in a Bf109 F4, and found him climbing up while I was diving down to get to the rest of the pack. Was chasing a bomber in 6k and my F4 is fully upgraded. The I spot him and decided to change and climb up. To my surprise, he was still chatching up with me, AFTER CLIMBING to 4k where I spotted him, and I had 500IAS. I quickly did a 90 degree and rushed under cloud cover. He noticed it and came after, I climbed, and to my surprise he was magically doing a headon, while I am diving and he was climbing at 25 degrees. He missed, as I dodged it, and he tuned around. TO MY ABSOLUTE SURPRISE, he was STILL catching up, closing in 700m. I made sure that no flaps, gear or anything that will slow me down is deployed. Then a vertical dive down to the ground. What BS is the OP energy retention? Germans have way better dive and climb speed. The M-82 was not superior to German engines. You ever see a La-UFO doing that with the same M-82? It tuned like a zero and outdove a I-185 while still retaining energy after turning? Physically impossible, also given that the I-185 wasn't really made as streamlined as a bomb.

 

Yep... the I-185 is reminding me of the old pre-1.29 nerfs La-5FN; completely broken UFO.


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Posted 22 January 2014 - 11:14 AM

This plane is declared UFO it shot me down in my D-13 I was not turning. He did some xxxx turns and then negated 2 KM like nothing.

 

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#57 Grisle

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 12:40 PM

At this point, it will be a pleasant surprise if they introduced a new Russian plane that wasn't completely over-preforming in every way imaginable.


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Posted 22 January 2014 - 12:50 PM

polikarpov was a troll clearly. making 700 kmh plane in 1940 xD


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Posted 22 January 2014 - 01:00 PM

Are you really comparing AB performance to real life one? In AB everything climbs ridiculously fast, even compared to RB!


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Posted 22 January 2014 - 01:34 PM

Last time I checked this a simply a game. You guys and wanting it historically accurate need to really relax and enjoy the game for what it is. You can't relive ww2 here sorry.

But that's why many play WT. I wouldn't be happy if a Nissan Micra out ran and out cornered a Ferrari F40 in Gran Turismo, even though it's just a game. 


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